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26 December 2015, 02:46 PM | #61 | |
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26 December 2015, 02:59 PM | #62 |
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Not in my case.
One of my favourites is my first, a SS DJ, which happens to worth the least. Also a gift from my wife. Some of my watches have sentimental value attached to them. I can remember the circumstances associated with each one that I acquire. Even though I have ones that are worth at least 10-12x more, 'street value' itself is not a huge factor for me. |
26 December 2015, 06:43 PM | #63 | |
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I have a pm Rolex that was bought bnib, after I flipped 2 of my other watches. A pm Rolex worth is a good collection of ss models. So the decision to put all my watch money into one piece meant I had to love it and was not an impulse buy. This was carefully thought out, and i visited several ads over time. Since now the only Rolex I have is the pm model, I do love it more. For me it's not just another piece in the collection- it's not a Rolex, but The Rolex. And i enjoy wearing the same piece daily. No rotation, no watch winder, no safe or safe queens- it's on the wrist, all the time. It feels like a part of me now. It's not just another watch due for wrist time. IMO, it brings more joy than a collection of less expensive models worth the same amount that I would have likely acquired over time. |
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26 December 2015, 09:42 PM | #64 | |
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If you are wearing your watch to impress the guy next to you, or if you only enjoy the more expensive ones because they cost more, you are IMO doing it wrong. This hobby is personal for me. I have no body to impress but myself. |
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I totally agree with this
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27 December 2015, 12:10 AM | #67 |
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All my Rolex watches are favorite watches to me in their own way. I love my SS 116610LN Sub as much as I like my Smurf. I even wear the SS Sub more than the WG Smurf. But if one has got to go, I would hold on to the Smurf. So yes, to me value at the end is very important.
Value has nothing to do with which watch you wear more and has no impact here. Happy Holidays
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27 December 2015, 12:13 AM | #68 |
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Not for me. I wear my sub a lot and love it... Not due to its cost though.
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27 December 2015, 12:20 AM | #69 |
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I have one watch and it is the current model of the 36mm Day Date... I bought it for myself and yes, paid a good bit... But I wear it for me and me only because I am in love with it. I recouped the funds last year just working hard, and now the value is an after thought to me. (That is until new dial options come out on the DD 40, lol)
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27 December 2015, 02:54 AM | #70 |
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I'll be honest. I like to wear them because not everyone can. When I dress up to go out, often times I will grab the pm because it is more expensive. I drive a new 750 because it is nicer and more expensive than my sons Toyota. In fact it I only had a timex, I probably wouldn't wear a watch at all and use my phone. Call me shallow...
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27 December 2015, 03:45 AM | #71 |
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Not to me. I love the 14060 more than mostly the others and its on the low end of the $$ scale.
My grail is the 5517, but not because of the cost. It's due to the history and how they were bona-fide tool watches. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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27 December 2015, 07:01 AM | #72 | |
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27 December 2015, 07:28 AM | #73 |
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I buy for quality, I buy for craftsmanship, I buy for necessity, I buy for selfishness; but I never buy for price. Price just so happens to correlate to most of those other reasons.
Probably why PM's don't mean much to me beside aesthetics. Now if I become so wealthy that "worth" is a factor to me, then I will be wearing Target brand Star Wars digital watches. Who am I kidding...I'd probably wear watches on both wrists, just cuzz. |
27 December 2015, 07:37 AM | #74 |
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I am not sure my question in my mind got transmitted accurately. That is my fault, nevertheless I think the responses are interesting. We all like quality and exclusive items and that is a/the major factor in why we like these watches. I've niticed since acquiring numerous nice watches in a month, going from one Rolex to 9 watches that I'm not as interested in the most expensive ones I have as some of the least expensive ones. I've spent $100-$120k in a month so I could have bought pretty much whatever I wanted but I can say I can't name a holy grail watch and I don't have a lust for any of the PM watches. At the start of the month I would have expected to be buying more and more expensive watches but I can say I'm most attracted to the ones that hold their value the best not that I'll ever sell any of them. If I felt knowledgable enough I think my interest would be the nice vintage Rolex watches but I'm not knowledgable enough at this point in time. I guess my question should have been more along the lines of; "Within your own watch collection do you favor your most expensive watch over the others in your collection?"
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27 December 2015, 10:29 AM | #79 |
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That's cool. To me there is no right or wrong, where one answer is better than another. I've had this experience before with camera lenses for example. I bought a huge low light high speed cannon lens that I think was $6k. It was the worst purchase in terms of lenses. I bought it after buying a house in the mountains where elk come through. I thought I needed the lowest f-stop available on a large L lens to get low light images. It weights over 6#'s and still isn't going to work in really low light even if I could carry it around and hold it still.
Tom I know your favorite is your Platona and as a guy who races Porsches I'm sure it's all the more meaningful. Your life interests outside of the watch arena and within the watch arena overlap. I just haven't found that combo for myself. I guess I like the water so I tend to gravitate toward divers and other sports watches. I'm sure if this watch interest sticks my focus, likes and loves will change as well. |
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After owning a pm Rolex. I don't think I can go back to SS. The feel and weight of the gold can only be beaten by platinum. I find myself rubbing the bracelet often just to feel the gold. And I don't buy gold to show off - I only buy white gold and hopefully one day platinum!
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I made pretty strong statements numerous times throughout this thread, but I have to admit, after reading 2.5 pages, I'm really starting to identify most with the people who question the clarity and boundaries of the OP's question.
My strong stance is that so many factors go into reasons why we all buy/own/wear Rolex. IMO almost all of those factors have some indirect or even direct connection to the value and worth of the company. On the other hand so many people have responded to the question, "No" and explaining they don't wear Rolex because it's an expensive watch company, they wear it cause they like it, and no other reason. Anyway, I personally feel that whether you realize it so many of the factors of why you like Rolex is due to the attributes that make it expensive and categorize it as "luxury". I guess what I'm saying is I obviously don't think I'm wrong, but I don't disagree with what others are saying either. Which typically means the question asked is definitely not a black & white question. |
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Just to be fair - you can't compare a Daytona and a speedy this way. The Daytona is significantly more refined with its PCLs, shiny surfaces, shiny dial and well... Shininess. This makes the Daytona much easier to be dressed up... Not because it's more expensive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Let's keep things in perspective. There is no such thing as a cheap Rolex.
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28 December 2015, 10:02 AM | #84 |
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Yes. Thank you I agree. All Rolex watches from a mechanical perspective are relatively similar. It's not like there are a lot of really involved complications like a Patek perpetual calender. The PM versions are more expensive but for me right now I'm finding I like the SS versions better..You all know more about this than I do but it seems like Paul Newman, Steve McQueen and Robert Redford preferred the SS models as well. I was just wondering how many people who can relatively easily afford the PM and SS versions prefer the SS versions? The next watch that I'm most interested in is one of the versions of the Explorer II. After that I am likely to look more seriously at the PM's or if I gain enough knowledge to pursue them wisely some of the vintage Red Subs. I'm drawn to the Comex watches because of the stories behind them but I'm afraid I'd end up with a sub with an aftermarket Comex dial. I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out of Baselworld 2016. Watch collecting leaves plenty of room to follow different paths.
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100% no, but I do think a lot of WIS folks are influenced by value whether they want to admit it or not. They think more rare and/or more expensive is better, and perhaps to a certain extent it is "better" in some form or fashion (rarity, movement/build, handcraftsmanship, precious metals), but "better" for someone else may not be better for me or you.
To me, my absolute favorite Rolex is the 14060/14060M Submariners. Plain ol' stainless steel, no date base model of a "run of the mill" Rolex watch, yet it's the perfect blend of vintage charm and modern features in a rugged and relatively lightweight metal that combines to make it the most versatile watch Rolex has ever made (and even then it's not my favorite watch--my run of the mill Speedmaster 3572.50 luminova-dialed hesalite sandwich is my favorite). Yet to many, a 14060/M is just a low end "budget Rolex." That's cool that it's not the right watch for them, just like it's cool that a white gold AP or PP isn't the right watch for me (can't do precious metals, prefer the lighter weight and more rugged nature of stainless). |
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The value doesn't really affect if I like it, just how much I'm willing to pay for it.
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I think watches often tell a story and along with it carries a lot of sentimental value, which is way more important than the retail or re-sale value to the watch owner.
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On reflection, I'd say cost/value isn't a factor for me.
As an example, I'm not at all drawn to Pateks, and if you offered me a choice of any Patek or any Rolex, I'd only take the Patek if I could sell it and buy myself a couple of Rolex. The Patek would be wasted on me because the styles don't appeal. I became interested in Rolex because I liked the styles of the models and thought that in general they looked and felt nicer than a Citizen, Seiko or Omega, and were better quality. For variety, it would be nice to have a couple of PMs as well as a couple of SS models.
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