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Old 11 January 2016, 06:11 AM   #61
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With Basel just around the corner I would hold on to see if the PM Daytonas with bracelets get a ceramic bezel, cause other than the Platona that would be the way to go!
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First of all, you have an amazing collection there ! So congrats!
Well if I were you I would go with WG Sub but that's just me.
You can't go wrong with either of these models. Good luck!
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Old 11 January 2016, 09:16 AM   #63
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The WG sub looks amazing on you. If you give up your Lvc, this would be the one IMO.
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Old 11 January 2016, 09:24 AM   #64
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Old 11 January 2016, 10:18 AM   #65
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I had two Rolexes and flipped both- I cashed out my collection for this:


It took me several months before I settled on this. These are the questions I had to ask myself. I have a set limit on what the value of my watches are. This is it.

-What do you want out of your watches? Is it diversity (a collection)? Or "quality" (PM)?

Do you want a collection? A diverse range of watches? Or do you want that PM Rolex that will likely be the watch or one of a few watches? Some people feel that a collection of SS watches is more intresting that 1 PM Rolex/1PM Rolex and a beater.

I didn't want a collection. I wanted one watch to bond with. You read the threads of people getting a watch from their dad and the watch was just "dad's watch"- it was always on his wrist. That interests me more than a collection. So I'd say go all in and flip everything for it. It's extreme, yes, but that's what I did and I'm happier this way- it drastically simplifies your collection. You go from what watch do I wear to do I want to wear a watch. . Although I can't blame you if you decide to keep one SS model.


Is this watch in my collection, really a keeper?
Everybody says their watches are special, are a keeper, etc. But we can make all kinds of silly reasons to keep watches in our collection- first Rolex, bought it on my 34th birthday, bought it when vacationing, etc. Think about which ones you can cut loose. Then think about the ones you said are keepers and be ruthless about cutting them out. I'm a big proponent of watches gifted by family. That's the only untouchable category for me. Everything else is on the cutting block. This is what actually took me the longest to settle on. I got over the cost of the PM, picked one out, but I had a hell of a time justifying flipping my 39mm Explorer I- I love that watch, it was my first Rolex. I cut it out. Any regrets? No. I still love the 214270 incoming threads and think it's still one great watch. But I'm happier with my BLRO. And happier that I've simplified to 1 watch.

-Is the PM watch a special watch that is brought out on special occasions and/or will be in rotation vs a daily watch/worn heavily?

Some people have PM Rolexes as safe queens. They are used on occasion- i.e. not at work, on weekends, etc. Others treat them the same as a SS model. No right or wrong, but you have to think about this- are you OK pouring in lots of money into whatever scenario you prefer?

The other issue is that gold will scratch and ding easier. Bracelet stretch can happen easier due to the softer metal. Are these deal breakers? If you need to cape cod your SS PCLs monthly, you might want to rethink gold.

Me? I couldn't spend all that money for a safe queen- if the money is tied up in a watch in a safe, well I'd rather invest it. Let me enjoy my watch daily.


-Are you OK with a flashy gold Rolex?


If this is the daily, will you feel comfortable wearing a SOLID GOLD (yellow or rose) Rolex everywhere? Some people don't care. Some people care and end up realizing it's not them. The solution then is WG or platinum if they want PM.

I love all gold- RG, YG, WG. Out of your pics, I'd go with the YG sub-c. Love YG and RG. So why don't I have one of these instead of my BLRO? Because I knew if I got a RG Daytona, it would be sitting at home most of the day because I knew that I would feel too uncomfortable wearing it to work or even out on weekends. I didn't want to be Gollum hiding out in the mountain with my RG Daytona. I wear my WG BLRO without that worry and I love it. I'm comfortable with WG and also I love the subtle colors of the metal.

My advice to you is to try every single PM model before making a decision. 2, 3 times even. It's too much money to be going off TRF pics, advice here, etc. Take your time and follow your heart- maybe you try ever PM model and none of them are for you. That's OK too.

I had whittled it down to the Smurf when I tried on the BLRO at an AD, not because I was interested, but because the salesman said they had one and offered it to me to try on. I thought it was a dumb- cranberry/purple bezel and the WG was Rolex exploiting their herritage. But I feel in love with it when I tried it on. It felt right on the wrist. Everybody is not going to choose the same thing, but you have to have that feeling with whatever you pick. Obviously since I love my BLRO, I'd recommend looking at this model too!

Good luck and enjoy the search!
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Old 11 January 2016, 10:54 AM   #66
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One advice: Try on all these models when you visit the AD and the decision will be easy. I tried on most of these models on a casual Friday night (also added the BLRO into the mix) and really took my time. The 116618LB just popped like none of them did.

If you want PM, a striking presence, perfect heft (I have a 6.5 inch wrist) with glide-lock to account for the weather change (keep in mind the heft difference), 116618 LB is a great way to start like Mike said.

Beautiful shot!

I remember your 'incoming' for your LB. I remember it really changing my perspective on PM, but especially the 116618LB!

Thanks for chiming in. There's been so much sub talk the daytonas are sort of getting drowned out.

Anyway, if I take the Sub route, i think I'm leaning a bit towards the WG just for the simple fact that if I trade away 1 or more of my watches, I will need (want) a great all around replacement.

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Old 11 January 2016, 10:57 AM   #67
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This is your choice......



It has the most beautiful Blue in the world.
It is a Sub and has the date complication you like.
You can wear this WG baby always and it feels so heavy :-)

Good luck mate!

Can't argue with any of that! Great pic and beautiful watch. Thanks for the input.
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Old 11 January 2016, 10:59 AM   #68
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Of those you like, the subs are my favorite (can't decide between yellow or white gold and if it's white I can't decide between smurf or sunburst... If there becomes a clear winner, I am in trouble:)
The day date is also a great choice.

But

I would not get either if it is your intent to keep their counterparts in the collection because:

When I owned watches that overlapped, I found it to be a mind f#%k on which I should wear on a given day...

So I decided to choose the one (sub) I wanted to wear most and that I felt represented the model best, I then sold the rest.
Now when I choose a watch from my small collection they each have a defined space, I always know which will fit the days needs best.
Even among my small defined collection there is enough overlap so I can change it up, I am not just locked into 1 choice.


Thanks for posting!

good advice here on overlapping models. Even with models that are quite different I still struggle on which to wear. It's like those joke photos with multiple watches on both wrists. Sometimes I wish I could
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Old 11 January 2016, 11:04 AM   #69
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Hey Chadri, great position to be in! As you may know I own a couple of the pieces you are most interested in and can see a lot of what you are thinking. The YG Sunburst blue dial would be my first choice, so much so that I haven't snapped up the LVc, my fave SS Rolex because that Subc is enough, but you could def own both. As for the Daytona, like you, I love the RG and the ceramic bezel combo, the nicest Rolex bezel of all imho, but the lack of bracelet is a bit of an issue for me, so for a first PM I would def have one. The choco dial while initially my fave I found quite dark and hard to read outside the ADs so I went the black dial. But when the ceramic on bracelet comes out, get that next!



Amazing photos here!

Thanks so much for the insight, advice and perspective.

Someone else mentioned the legibility of the Choco dial. That could be an issue actually, and I do enjoy decent lume (not that Rolex is known for that, but I've certainly been satisfied with my LVC Lume).

It's quite possible I might need to chop my LVC and YM2 to make this happen, or at least to keep my marriage going.

In your opinion do you think either the 116618LB or 116619LB along with my Tudor BBB would be a good enough pair to keep me content, or do you think I'll be eventually missing the versatility of SS and brushed links?
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Old 11 January 2016, 11:06 AM   #70
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Can you read the chocolate daytonas dial? I struggle with that one - agree discontinued ups the anny though

The yg options for me just cut down on the wearability situationally - you'd be whacking your 2 most worn for a limited wearer

The wg sub wins here for the reasons you say - and it's great trading the hulk and Y because you get parts of both in the 116619

I too want a yg / RG piece and the dd40 / 116505 are on top of the lists but I've got some more pieces than you. If you want to keep it small so all can be worn, I'd go........116619

Good luck!
Thanks very much! This is an amazing photo btw. One of those images that really tip the scales ;)
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Old 11 January 2016, 11:12 AM   #71
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The fun part is just beginning --- the hunt! Now that you've decided to go PM, I would take the leap and go straight to platinum. That's what I did. I knew if I got a white gold watch (Smurf and BLRO were in the running), soon enough I would long for a platinum piece. It might mean saving for longer, or flipping a few pieces as opposed to one, but, since you seem to be leaning towards a white metal watch, take the platinum leap. There's nothing like it!

I would sell the YM and the 1830 and get either the DD 40 in platinum or the Platona. Both are special pieces and either would make a perfect duo with your LVc. You will be content for a very long time.

Try all of them on before deciding.

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wow that is pretty much the Royal Flush of Rolex right there. Congrats on an outstanding collection.

You may very well be right, and I pretty much spend my whole life thinking a PM Rolex would be out of my league, so I never even considered it until recently. I'm tempted to say the same about platinum. I just can't see it happening. Stepping stones right?

I mean really, if you could tell me a year or two ago that I'd be looking at PM or course it would be way more cost effective to go straight for the PM, but unfortunately that's just not the way it works. Gotta work my way up the ladder I suppose and I think that's ok

I do appreciate your advice though and your post is absolutely inspiring! Thank you.
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Old 11 January 2016, 11:19 AM   #72
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If it were me, absolutely no doubt, the RG Daytona on the bracelet.

The way I see it, the strap Daytona is out, as you seem to want the bracelet. As for the bezel, the RG is gorgeous and ceramic will never be as warm or awesome. In the end, it's an occasional wear watch, so don't sweat it.

As for the subs, no doubt the YG sunburst is amazing, but you LOVE your LVc, so why not branch out with the Daytona for more variety? As for the WG sub, I'd take the LVc over the WG regardless of the metal, and I wouldn't have my first PM mean LVc + WG sub.

As for the DD40, beautiful watch, but if you are not at all taken with the DD, I think you can do better for yourself: the RG Daytona! ;-)

Best of luck choosing! Fun times indeed.

Definitely fun times! No problems here just gold old fashion watch obsession ;)

Thanks for the advice. It's been all about the sub, all about the sub, but with one post like yours, I'm starting to think yet again seriously about the Daytona.

What would you think about chopping the YM2, getting a Rose Daytona, and rotating between the LVC, Daytona and BBB?

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With Basel just around the corner I would hold on to see if the PM Daytonas with bracelets get a ceramic bezel, cause other than the Platona that would be the way to go!
This might have to be the play regardless of what I decide just based on timing. Definitely I decide to add as opposed to trade, it will likely all go down around the spring. A full PM Daytona with ceramic on bracelet would be amazing. Actually any Ceramic Daytona would be a total game changer.

Part of the reason I'm SO drawn to the Rose Ceramic Daytona, it that aside from the PLatona, there's nothing else like it.

Have you ever owned the 116615 Doc.? I'd be curious to know how you felt about it.

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First of all, you have an amazing collection there ! So congrats!
Well if I were you I would go with WG Sub but that's just me.
You can't go wrong with either of these models. Good luck!
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Thanks very much! WG sub is definitely a front runner as of late.

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I would go with the yellow gold sub
Definitely a toss up between the WG and YG. How do you feel about basic rotation of PM SubC and my Tudor BBB?
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wow that is pretty much the Royal Flush of Rolex right there. Congrats on an outstanding collection.



You may very well be right, and I pretty much spend my whole life thinking a PM Rolex would be out of my league, so I never even considered it until recently. I'm tempted to say the same about platinum. I just can't see it happening. Stepping stones right?



I mean really, if you could tell me a year or two ago that I'd be looking at PM or course it would be way more cost effective to go straight for the PM, but unfortunately that's just not the way it works. Gotta work my way up the ladder I suppose and I think that's ok



I do appreciate your advice though and your post is absolutely inspiring! Thank you.

It's all good, the journey and the reward. Note, while the Platona is mine, the DD40 is not, although it's in the running.....

Good luck with whatever you choose...it really is a win either way --- all the ones you mentioned are winners!
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I absolutely love my Smurf!! The weight is incredible. I don't think I could wear a watch with a strap. A PM daytona with bracelet would be the only way to go for me. Like others have said, try on different models. Personally, YG doesn't look good on me and it just isn't my style. That's just me. YG may be perfect for you.
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I had two Rolexes and flipped both- I cashed out my collection for this:


It took me several months before I settled on this. These are the questions I had to ask myself. I have a set limit on what the value of my watches are. This is it.

-What do you want out of your watches? Is it diversity (a collection)? Or "quality" (PM)?

Do you want a collection? A diverse range of watches? Or do you want that PM Rolex that will likely be the watch or one of a few watches? Some people feel that a collection of SS watches is more intresting that 1 PM Rolex/1PM Rolex and a beater.

I didn't want a collection. I wanted one watch to bond with. You read the threads of people getting a watch from their dad and the watch was just "dad's watch"- it was always on his wrist. That interests me more than a collection. So I'd say go all in and flip everything for it. It's extreme, yes, but that's what I did and I'm happier this way- it drastically simplifies your collection. You go from what watch do I wear to do I want to wear a watch. . Although I can't blame you if you decide to keep one SS model.


Is this watch in my collection, really a keeper?
Everybody says their watches are special, are a keeper, etc. But we can make all kinds of silly reasons to keep watches in our collection- first Rolex, bought it on my 34th birthday, bought it when vacationing, etc. Think about which ones you can cut loose. Then think about the ones you said are keepers and be ruthless about cutting them out. I'm a big proponent of watches gifted by family. That's the only untouchable category for me. Everything else is on the cutting block. This is what actually took me the longest to settle on. I got over the cost of the PM, picked one out, but I had a hell of a time justifying flipping my 39mm Explorer I- I love that watch, it was my first Rolex. I cut it out. Any regrets? No. I still love the 214270 incoming threads and think it's still one great watch. But I'm happier with my BLRO. And happier that I've simplified to 1 watch.

-Is the PM watch a special watch that is brought out on special occasions and/or will be in rotation vs a daily watch/worn heavily?

Some people have PM Rolexes as safe queens. They are used on occasion- i.e. not at work, on weekends, etc. Others treat them the same as a SS model. No right or wrong, but you have to think about this- are you OK pouring in lots of money into whatever scenario you prefer?

The other issue is that gold will scratch and ding easier. Bracelet stretch can happen easier due to the softer metal. Are these deal breakers? If you need to cape cod your SS PCLs monthly, you might want to rethink gold.

Me? I couldn't spend all that money for a safe queen- if the money is tied up in a watch in a safe, well I'd rather invest it. Let me enjoy my watch daily.


-Are you OK with a flashy gold Rolex?


If this is the daily, will you feel comfortable wearing a SOLID GOLD (yellow or rose) Rolex everywhere? Some people don't care. Some people care and end up realizing it's not them. The solution then is WG or platinum if they want PM.

I love all gold- RG, YG, WG. Out of your pics, I'd go with the YG sub-c. Love YG and RG. So why don't I have one of these instead of my BLRO? Because I knew if I got a RG Daytona, it would be sitting at home most of the day because I knew that I would feel too uncomfortable wearing it to work or even out on weekends. I didn't want to be Gollum hiding out in the mountain with my RG Daytona. I wear my WG BLRO without that worry and I love it. I'm comfortable with WG and also I love the subtle colors of the metal.

My advice to you is to try every single PM model before making a decision. 2, 3 times even. It's too much money to be going off TRF pics, advice here, etc. Take your time and follow your heart- maybe you try ever PM model and none of them are for you. That's OK too.

I had whittled it down to the Smurf when I tried on the BLRO at an AD, not because I was interested, but because the salesman said they had one and offered it to me to try on. I thought it was a dumb- cranberry/purple bezel and the WG was Rolex exploiting their herritage. But I feel in love with it when I tried it on. It felt right on the wrist. Everybody is not going to choose the same thing, but you have to have that feeling with whatever you pick. Obviously since I love my BLRO, I'd recommend looking at this model too!

Good luck and enjoy the search!
Thanks so much for taking the time here to provide your advice and insights. You're definitely asking all the right questions and the geek in me definitely appreciates the Gollum reference... "My precious!!!".

To briefly sum up the answers to your questions I'll say... I more or less want to be like you.

I'm definitely not about the safe queen. Any watch I choose will be worn. I'd like to say that I won't be the guy who sits around monthly obsessively polishing out scratches and I'm definitely not like that with my SS watches but I've never owned PM. The softness of the metal may come as a shock to me, but there's only one way to know for sure.

As for YG vs WG, I definitely think the WG would be more versatile for me. Not that I won't wear YG, but I can confidently say YG won't see as much wrist time as the WG.

I think I'll always have to have a secondary or even third SS watch, and/or "beater" but I do LOVE the idea and philosophy of "Dad's watch" as you put it. It's tough though because this is a hobby. A hobby that grows overtime and changes day to day, month to month and year to year.

Without the growth and yearning for variety and change, we'd all most likely be around for 25-50 posts and be on our way. This obsession kind of goes hand in hand with the variety and evolution of the collection, whether you regularly rotate 1 watch or 10.

Thanks again for your post! It's given me lots to think about.

BTW: Below is my "Dad's watch" (next to my LVC), and below that is my Dad's "Dad's watch" (the SS thunderbird). There is definitely something beautiful about that notion and it feels amazing to be able to share with you these pics and happily say they're all still with the family.

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I would go YG Sub, such a stunner in person. Second would be the DD40 in RG with the chocolate dial.
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Chadridv, I don't have any PM watched on straps, the weight of the bracelet is one of the amazing things in PM

Lot of great advice on this thread! You will be happy with any choice!!
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Thanks very much! WG sub is definitely a front runner as of late.



Definitely a toss up between the WG and YG. How do you feel about basic rotation of PM SubC and my Tudor BBB?
Yes !!!! Thats a great one But I use to have the Wg and hulk at the same time and got tired of the smurf in 90 days
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Yes !!!! Thats a great one But I use to have the Wg and hulk at the same time and got tired of the smurf in 90 days
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Amazing photos here!

Thanks so much for the insight, advice and perspective.

Someone else mentioned the legibility of the Choco dial. That could be an issue actually, and I do enjoy decent lume (not that Rolex is known for that, but I've certainly been satisfied with my LVC Lume).

It's quite possible I might need to chop my LVC and YM2 to make this happen, or at least to keep my marriage going.

In your opinion do you think either the 116618LB or 116619LB along with my Tudor BBB would be a good enough pair to keep me content, or do you think I'll be eventually missing the versatility of SS and brushed links?
I think the BBB is an awesome watch, and would pair with a gold Subc very nicely for all occasions. Plus I think you will want to save again and add another SS back as the hunt and planning is half the fun and a reason why we all actually flip so much.
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Thanks so much for taking the time here to provide your advice and insights. You're definitely asking all the right questions and the geek in me definitely appreciates the Gollum reference... "My precious!!!".

To briefly sum up the answers to your questions I'll say... I more or less want to be like you.

I'm definitely not about the safe queen. Any watch I choose will be worn. I'd like to say that I won't be the guy who sits around monthly obsessively polishing out scratches and I'm definitely not like that with my SS watches but I've never owned PM. The softness of the metal may come as a shock to me, but there's only one way to know for sure.

As for YG vs WG, I definitely think the WG would be more versatile for me. Not that I won't wear YG, but I can confidently say YG won't see as much wrist time as the WG.

I think I'll always have to have a secondary or even third SS watch, and/or "beater" but I do LOVE the idea and philosophy of "Dad's watch" as you put it. It's tough though because this is a hobby. A hobby that grows overtime and changes day to day, month to month and year to year.

Without the growth and yearning for variety and change, we'd all most likely be around for 25-50 posts and be on our way. This obsession kind of goes hand in hand with the variety and evolution of the collection, whether you regularly rotate 1 watch or 10.

Thanks again for your post! It's given me lots to think about.

BTW: Below is my "Dad's watch" (next to my LVC), and below that is my Dad's "Dad's watch" (the SS thunderbird). There is definitely something beautiful about that notion and it feels amazing to be able to share with you these pics and happily say they're all still with the family.

Great pics!

Gold is softer but it's still a metal. I'd say about 4 months into pm ownership, it scratches easier. You've got that DD for an idea of what good will do over time.

I am done buying. But I still look. Like on classified, watch recon, etc. It is a temptation, no doubt about it and I think of adding something else. Part of it is that I'm still very interested in patek and want a watch with a clear case back.

Patek? The watch fund is tapped out and don't want to spend more. I've looked at cheaper watches, like a 36mm explorer 1. But then I run into the problem that I'm leaving the pm at home if I get a beater. Which I see as a waste. So far no plans of buying anything new... Unless I win the powerball!

So now I'm thinking maybe in 10, 20 yrs, if I do very well, I might pick up something else. Besides, I can enjoy everybody's watches here.
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I've been itching for precious metal and would love some advice and opinions on what to do next. There may very well be a follow up post on how I plan to afford such an acquisition, but let's first focus on which watch to zero in on.

Back Story (feel free to skip)

I never gave PM much consideration until last November when I was at a vintage/antique/jewelry show in NYC and happened to try on a white gold Daytona. My son was about 4 months old and I wasn't (still not) sleeping much, so for some reason it didn't occur to me that I had PM on the wrist. I kept thinking to myself, "Man, this Daytona is amazing! This has to be the nicest Daytona I've ever handled". Then it hit me, I had white gold on the wrist! In retrospect this was the first time, and almost 2 decades of being an enthusiast, I'd ever tried on a full PM sport Rolex and I knew then what all the fuss was about. I have a pink gold 1803 (that is actually my dad's), and other vintage gold pieces but for some reason I never really fell in love with those older gold watches. Maybe it's the size but they definitely don't have the feel of that WG Daytona, and they definitely don't sing to me in the same way. So that began my hunt and latest obsession.

OK on to the advice...
Below is my current rotation/collection, followed by the watches I'm considering, and a little bit about which ones are ranking the highest and why.

After all that, all of your wonderful and heavily valued opinions would be much appreciated.

Currently Rotating:
Rolex Submariner 116610LV - worn regularly, has taken the top spot of my favorite watch. Love it. Could be a life long keeper, but could also be potentially replaced with another PM SubC.
Rolex SS Yachtmaster II 116680 - also worn regularly but not quite as much as my LVC. Absolutely amazing watch that I drool over every time I look at it for more than 10 seconds. As much as I love it and would love to own it forever, it would probably be first on the chopping block if i needed to raise funds for this next purchase.
Tudor Black Bay Black - my most recent acquisition. Awesome watch! Definitely competes for wrist time with my submariner. Extremely versatile. Can't say enough good things. No plans to ever get rid of this watch especially at the price point.
Rolex (1970s-ish) 1803 - this watch belongs to my dad but I've been borrowing and wearing it for about a year. As mentioned above, I just never really took to this watch. It is a stunner but i think it's just a bit too small for my liking. Could potentially become a trade or sale watch if my dad decides to move it (which he has been lately with some of his collection).


Here is the list of watches I'm interested in ranked favorites from the top down...
1. Rolex 116515LN - Rose Gold Daytona w/ceramic bezel
This watch is a watch i've been sort of infatuated with long before this recent obsession. To me the the chocolate dial, arabic numbers, and ceramic bezel scream exclusivity, as well as being one of the most unique and beautiful color combinations in the Rolex lineup. Only thing holding me back from this watch is that it doesn't come on a bracelet. Which strangely enough is a pro and a con. I love the end link/leather strap as well as the option for rubber b, even more so than the look of the bracelet, but if I'm gonna drop this kind of money I feel like I'll miss not even having the option for the bracelet.

2. Rolex 116505 - Rose Gold Daytona on Bracelet
I love this watch for all the same reasons as the Ceramic version on leather. Huge plus is the bracelet, huge minus is the non-ceramic bezel. Side note: this watch no longer exists on the Rolex website. Discontinued possibly, which actually makes it even more appealing to me.


3 & 4. Rolex 116618LB & 116619LB - Yellow Gold Submariner

My LVC has quickly become my favorite watch. I have always been in love with Submariners, so having a couple PM submariners in the running is sort of a given. I lean slightly towards the YG because IMO, frankly it has a way stronger wrist presence than the WG. WG gets the edge in wearability, being if I ever was to sell or trade my LVC, the WG would make a suitable replacement, where as wearing the showy YG won't always work in my day to day lifestyle. Both are amazing though.



5. Rolex 228235 - Day-Date 40 w/Chocolate Dial

This watch I have to admit is barely in consideration. Although I find it to be one of the most beautiful watches in my whole list, I don't really see it getting much practical wrist time, and there's nothing worse than a watch that doesn't get worn. BUT, i'm open to being convinced ;) I also really love the look of the WG DD40 with the gray striped dial, and the other Choco Roman numeral dial.


So that's it. Sorry for the crazy long post. Just trying to be thorough and get the best opinions based on all my info. Open to other suggestions too.

Thank you all very much!
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Thanks so much for taking the time here to provide your advice and insights. You're definitely asking all the right questions and the geek in me definitely appreciates the Gollum reference... "My precious!!!".

To briefly sum up the answers to your questions I'll say... I more or less want to be like you.

I'm definitely not about the safe queen. Any watch I choose will be worn. I'd like to say that I won't be the guy who sits around monthly obsessively polishing out scratches and I'm definitely not like that with my SS watches but I've never owned PM. The softness of the metal may come as a shock to me, but there's only one way to know for sure.

As for YG vs WG, I definitely think the WG would be more versatile for me. Not that I won't wear YG, but I can confidently say YG won't see as much wrist time as the WG.

I think I'll always have to have a secondary or even third SS watch, and/or "beater" but I do LOVE the idea and philosophy of "Dad's watch" as you put it. It's tough though because this is a hobby. A hobby that grows overtime and changes day to day, month to month and year to year.

Without the growth and yearning for variety and change, we'd all most likely be around for 25-50 posts and be on our way. This obsession kind of goes hand in hand with the variety and evolution of the collection, whether you regularly rotate 1 watch or 10.

Thanks again for your post! It's given me lots to think about.

BTW: Below is my "Dad's watch" (next to my LVC), and below that is my Dad's "Dad's watch" (the SS thunderbird). There is definitely something beautiful about that notion and it feels amazing to be able to share with you these pics and happily say they're all still with the family.

First of all, congratulations in advance of your future incoming PM Rolex. A great place to be in.

Many PM forum members have already chimed in with their words of wisdom/enabling so I think you probably know all you need to know about this situation.

My only advice to you is to ensure you have tried on all of these references in person to ensure that you pick the right one. A PM Rolex is a sizable purchase for most individuals, so it is important to pick the right one. Take your time as the hunt is almost as much fun as obtaining it. Based on your choices, my vote would go towards the 116618 LB and then the 116505.

Good luck.
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116618 LB for sure.

Great shot! It's such a toss up between the 18 and 19. Both are amazing for so many reasons.
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I think the BBB is an awesome watch, and would pair with a gold Subc very nicely for all occasions. Plus I think you will want to save again and add another SS back as the hunt and planning is half the fun and a reason why we all actually flip so much.
thanks for the input and opinion here. Much appreciated.

I'm really trying to avoid doing a repeat acquisition. My YM2 I know I would miss but could live with out. I kind of know deep down I will always end up with another 116610 (most likely LVC).

So If i can figure out a way to keep it around, it'd be great. However, then we circle back to the dilemma of owning to SubCs. I know there's a bit of a divided camp on the subject. I'd prefer not to have the redundancy.

OH man, what to do. Such an amazing problem to have a suppose!!
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Great pics!

Gold is softer but it's still a metal. I'd say about 4 months into pm ownership, it scratches easier. You've got that DD for an idea of what good will do over time.

I am done buying. But I still look. Like on classified, watch recon, etc. It is a temptation, no doubt about it and I think of adding something else. Part of it is that I'm still very interested in patek and want a watch with a clear case back.

Patek? The watch fund is tapped out and don't want to spend more. I've looked at cheaper watches, like a 36mm explorer 1. But then I run into the problem that I'm leaving the pm at home if I get a beater. Which I see as a waste. So far no plans of buying anything new... Unless I win the powerball!

So now I'm thinking maybe in 10, 20 yrs, if I do very well, I might pick up something else. Besides, I can enjoy everybody's watches here.
I don't know if I'll ever stop looking and hunting. I thought I was done, with a different hobby (sharp things), but I still find myself checking the boards over and over again.

So as for the gold. Do you (or someone here) happen to know the order of hardness and weight on all the PMs Rolex makes?
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Great shot! It's such a toss up between the 18 and 19. Both are amazing for so many reasons.
That's why everyone needs one of each.
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WG or YG Submariner ... I really like the clean look of a 3 hand compared to a chrono and the submariner is a perfect example.
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do I dare throw this into the mix? Went to the AD and tried a few on again. These both were so awesome.

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