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shawndww · 2 February 2016, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Colin10101

I have bought from paypal before, but only locally via F2F sale. I'm not sure I would trust it for distance sales - definitely not now.

Hope you can get this all resolved!

Are you aware that PayPal does not cover f2f, buyer can leave the meeting and claim they never received it. PayPal requires confirmed signed delivery.

Trust me I know cost me about 2.2k. Claim was filled weeks after the transaction.

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 2 February 2016, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by southtexas

^^This^^

Am I missing something (if so, what???)?

OP says seller shipped an empty box; Fedex delivered said box. Why, exactly, would fedex pay one red cent?

Do you plan to disclose to Fedex that the box was shipped empty?

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Calling them tomorrow
Seriously guys why am I being interrogated here, I am the victim remember?

southtexas · 2 February 2016, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by anderl712000

Calling them tomorrow
Seriously guys why am I being interrogated here, I am the victim remember?

Good luck let us know

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crowncollection · 2 February 2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by anderl712000

Calling them tomorrow
Seriously guys why am I being interrogated here, I am the victim remember?

You are the victim Andy, these threads go off track sometimes. Best of luck, claim and use all avenues of appeal. This happened to me once on a return repair after sale. Hope all goes well cheers.

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zhleez · 2 February 2016, 09:36 PM

The shipping weight will be based on volumetric weight calculated from the dimensions of the box. This is usually heavier than the weight of the watch and its contents. FedEX will have no idea if there are contents or not within.

File a credit card chargeback, this is the best resolution if Paypal doesn't work.

southtexas · 3 February 2016, 12:18 AM

The intent of my questions is not to make you feel like you're being interrogated. I'm genuinely curious to see how fedex handles this (I use them also but through parcel pro). I don't think this thread has gone off track; on the contrary, we are simply replying to info you posted.

It is unfortunate that you are the victim, but I honestly still don't understand how/why it could be the duty of fedex to make you whole (or partly so) if they delivered to you what shipper paid to send (being an empty box, as I understand it). Wouldn't that then make them the victim, when they had no part in the deal itself?

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AbsolutelyROLEX! · 3 February 2016, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by southtexas

The intent of my questions is not to make you feel like you're being interrogated. I'm genuinely curious to see how fedex handles this (I use them also but through parcel pro). I don't think this thread has gone off track; on the contrary, we are simply replying to info you posted.

It is unfortunate that you are the victim, but I honestly still don't understand how/why it could be the duty of fedex to make you whole (or partly so) if they delivered to you what shipper paid to send (being an empty box, as I understand it). Wouldn't that then make them the victim, when they had no part in the deal itself?

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Doesnt really matter now that the seller is anonymous and cant be found
I would have to have him sign off from making a claim and that wont happen
Iam caling the Fedex rep today to explain the whole situation and will let you guys know, its possible the seller has already started a claim on his side, so when i tell FEDX the truth they will revoke it I hope

LLPavorsky · 3 February 2016, 08:29 AM

You are a good dude and this is just plain terrible. I hope this all gets worked your to your satisfaction.

southtexas · 3 February 2016, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by anderl712000

Doesnt really matter now that the seller is anonymous and cant be found
I would have to have him sign off from making a claim and that wont happen
Iam caling the Fedex rep today to explain the whole situation and will let you guys know, its possible the seller has already started a claim on his side, so when i tell FEDX the truth they will revoke it I hope

I'm still hoping and betting that your CC company will come through for you, leaving PayPal to deal with its scammer client.

I'm still dumbfounded that they denied your claim out of hand due to the fact that you made 2 partial payments--for the same item.

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AbsolutelyROLEX! · 3 February 2016, 09:58 AM

Well here is the update, good news I got 5k back and CC company should have the other half in the next day or too.
I called Fedex to explain but had to leave a message, will report back with results

kultschar · 3 February 2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by anderl712000

Well here is the update, good news I got 5k back and CC company should have the other half in the next day or too.
I called Fedex to explain but had to leave a message, will report back with results

Glad to hear this!

dadonn2 · 3 February 2016, 10:39 AM

Oh man. I've seen some of your watch postings. You've always come across as a sincere, straight shooter and have the history to confirm my impressions. Stories like this make my skin crawl; congratulations on the 5k and God willing, the rest soon enough. Best incoming ever.

Dave

05carbondrz · 3 February 2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by anderl712000

Well here is the update, good news I got 5k back and CC company should have the other half in the next day or too.
I called Fedex to explain but had to leave a message, will report back with results

I take it the 5K came via the CC Company?

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 3 February 2016, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

I take it the 5K came via the CC Company?

Yes it did

SohAIS · 3 February 2016, 12:58 PM

Im glad you got your money back.

southcarolina1801 · 3 February 2016, 11:54 PM

Congrats, happy to hear you CC came through.

I can add for future reference that FedEx photographs, dimensionally scans (with lasers), and weighs every package that comes through their system. So they will be able to tell the exact condition, size, and weight of any package entered into their network.

michigan.watches · 4 February 2016, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderl712000

Well here is the update, good news I got 5k back and CC company should have the other half in the next day or too.
I called Fedex to explain but had to leave a message, will report back with results

That's great news! I hope the other $5k comes through as well.

FTX I · 4 February 2016, 08:26 AM

Great news indeed.

DR.Golf · 4 February 2016, 11:52 AM

What would happen if I created a post that said

Another SCUMBAG AMERICAN scammer beware!!

Hmmm

kultschar · 4 February 2016, 12:06 PM

Believe the OP himself is from canada

Dont think he meant it quite like it was worded!! E.g. Another scumbag. Canada scammer beware!

Knappo 1307 · 4 February 2016, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DR.Golf

What would happen if I created a post that said

Another SCUMBAG AMERICAN scammer beware!!

Hmmm

I'd say there are a few out there... As stated the OP is Canadian.

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 4 February 2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DR.Golf

What would happen if I created a post that said

Another SCUMBAG AMERICAN scammer beware!!

Hmmm

Well, since you are Canadian, that would offend a lot of people
I, on the other hand, am Canadian in Canada, so it doesnt quite have the same effect

Seriously, an honest person just got saved from losing a large sum of money to pond scum
Pond scum is the same everywhere, regardless of location

DR.Golf · 4 February 2016, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderl712000

Well, since you are Canadian, that would offend a lot of people
I, on the other hand, am Canadian in Canada, so it doesnt quite have the same effect

Seriously, an honest person just got saved from losing a large sum of money to pond scum
Pond scum is the same everywhere, regardless of location

Good to know! If someone who is an American wrongs me I can post something along the lines of

Yet Another Arrogant American A$$ as a title on an open forum, and it's ok if I were an American.

Good to know.

southtexas · 4 February 2016, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR.Golf

Good to know! If someone who is an American wrongs me I can post something along the lines of

Yet Another Arrogant American A$$ as a title on an open forum, and it's ok if I were an American.

Good to know.

Huh?

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Knappo 1307 · 4 February 2016, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DR.Golf

Good to know! If someone who is an American wrongs me I can post something along the lines of

Yet Another Arrogant American A$$ as a title on an open forum, and it's ok if I were an American.

Good to know.

Since reading obviously isn't your strong point, maybe we could add some pictures?

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Welshwatchman · 5 February 2016, 02:36 AM

To all the American and Canadian scumbags:

Please be polite.

Chewbacca · 5 February 2016, 03:24 AM

that sucks andy.

did you check which fedex or drop off location the scammer used? ask for the video of that day via the local OPP and offer a public reward via CL and Kijiji for the general area. cut and paste the original ad and all you've posted here on it. also, study the ad text pattern and keywords and see if they try to resell it --- if they ever even had it.

good luck!

WristEnvy · 6 February 2016, 09:24 PM

Glad you got your money back. Scammers suck!

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Danex · 7 February 2016, 01:58 AM

👍Great news you were made whole.

But not exactly a perfect resolution. Am I correct in saying that the bad guy got off with $10,000? And I assume your credit card company charged back PayPal and they took the loss?

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123Blueface · 7 February 2016, 03:54 AM

Wow.
Glad to hear at least part of your money/charge has been returned.

3 February 2016, 12:18 AM	#66
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,763	Another scumbag Canadian scammer beware!! The intent of my questions is not to make you feel like you're being interrogated. I'm genuinely curious to see how fedex handles this (I use them also but through parcel pro). I don't think this thread has gone off track; on the contrary, we are simply replying to info you posted. It is unfortunate that you are the victim, but I honestly still don't understand how/why it could be the duty of fedex to make you whole (or partly so) if they delivered to you what shipper paid to send (being an empty box, as I understand it). Wouldn't that then make them the victim, when they had no part in the deal itself? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

3 February 2016, 08:29 AM	#68
LLPavorsky "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Lee Pavorsky Location: Philadelphia, PA Watch: RG SKY-DWELLER Posts: 445	So sorry to hear this Andy You are a good dude and this is just plain terrible. I hope this all gets worked your to your satisfaction. __________________ On the hunt for the next one...... 216570 SS Explorer II Black Dial 116688 Yellow gold YachtMaster II New 326935 Sky-Dweller Rose Gold Choc Dial New BNIB DSSD Deep Blue Scrambled Serial# New YachtMaster Platinum and Stainless F Serial# New My 2004 40th Bday present is my son's college graduation present in 2018! IWJG MEMBER#6219

3 February 2016, 09:58 AM	#70
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	Well here is the update, good news I got 5k back and CC company should have the other half in the next day or too. I called Fedex to explain but had to leave a message, will report back with results __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

5 February 2016, 02:36 AM	#86
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	To all the American and Canadian scumbags: Please be polite. __________________ ..33

7 February 2016, 01:58 AM	#89
Danex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Dan O Location: Park City, UT Watch: Cosmograph Daytona Posts: 741	👍Great news you were made whole. But not exactly a perfect resolution. Am I correct in saying that the bad guy got off with $10,000? And I assume your credit card company charged back PayPal and they took the loss? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk while driving down the interstate at 75 mph __________________ -Dan, WIS In Training 116520 Cosmograph Daytona 116622 & 16622 Yacht-Master 114060 & 14060 Submariner

2 February 2016, 09:36 PM	#65
zhleez "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Singapore Posts: 59	The shipping weight will be based on volumetric weight calculated from the dimensions of the box. This is usually heavier than the weight of the watch and its contents. FedEX will have no idea if there are contents or not within. File a credit card chargeback, this is the best resolution if Paypal doesn't work.

3 February 2016, 10:39 AM	#72
dadonn2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 1,557	Oh man. I've seen some of your watch postings. You've always come across as a sincere, straight shooter and have the history to confirm my impressions. Stories like this make my skin crawl; congratulations on the 5k and God willing, the rest soon enough. Best incoming ever. Dave

3 February 2016, 12:58 PM	#75
SohAIS ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Aamir Location: Atlanta, Georgia Watch: Patek, Rolex Posts: 34,526	Im glad you got your money back.

3 February 2016, 11:54 PM	#76
southcarolina1801 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Peach State Posts: 735	Congrats, happy to hear you CC came through. I can add for future reference that FedEx photographs, dimensionally scans (with lasers), and weighs every package that comes through their system. So they will be able to tell the exact condition, size, and weight of any package entered into their network.

4 February 2016, 08:26 AM	#78
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Great news indeed.

4 February 2016, 11:52 AM	#79
DR.Golf "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 395	What would happen if I created a post that said Another SCUMBAG AMERICAN scammer beware!! Hmmm

4 February 2016, 12:06 PM	#80
kultschar "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: End of the World Watch: PP & Rolex Posts: 1,970	Believe the OP himself is from canada Dont think he meant it quite like it was worded!! E.g. Another scumbag. Canada scammer beware!

5 February 2016, 03:24 AM	#87
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	that sucks andy. did you check which fedex or drop off location the scammer used? ask for the video of that day via the local OPP and offer a public reward via CL and Kijiji for the general area. cut and paste the original ad and all you've posted here on it. also, study the ad text pattern and keywords and see if they try to resell it --- if they ever even had it. good luck!

6 February 2016, 09:24 PM	#88
WristEnvy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Ray Location: Berkeley, CA Watch: IG @watch.kakashi Posts: 2,579	Glad you got your money back. Scammers suck! Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

7 February 2016, 03:54 AM	#90
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 5,315	Wow. Glad to hear at least part of your money/charge has been returned.

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