Non ceramic bezel Daytona - instant classics?

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

I think the 16520 is collectible because of the Zenith movement. I don't see the more recent 116520 being sought after, in fact I would expect the prices to drop in the secondary market...can't imagine anyone preferring that to the new models.

I guess I'm an odd duck. I'd prefer the zenith version above anything recent, but I'm picky about condition - the current model is my sweet spot from a looks/cost/availability perspective. The new ceramic would be a better every day watch, but I barely wear most of my watches once a month, so every day wearability doesn't matter to me.

[sunspot2013]

Originally Posted by soundserious

116520 Kind of a transitional watch...not the 16520 with the unique movement and not the ceramic which is clearly the direction Rolex has gone....nice watch still.

16 year run is one hell of a long "transition."

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by sunspot2013

16 year run is one hell of a long "transition."

Although for Rolex 16 years is like a quick U-turn in front of traffic.

[David cote]

True classic yes , but but , the new Daytona will be a legend .


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[sunspot2013]

To me the Daytona is like the 911 - an icon, period. There are people that love the 911 but tend to think whatever is the latest is the greatest and beats all previous generations. Others respect the entire lineage and look at each generation in isolation as an icon for its time.

I think Rolex hit it out of the park with the new Daytona - seems to be exactly what people were asking for and for that reason the Daytona I expect will continue to be the icon that it is. I am glad Rolex is evolving the Daytona to keep it desirable and preserve its status. It replaces what has to be one of the longest-running iterations of the Daytona. The 16520/116520 has anchored itself in my mind as "the" Daytona as it was the Daytona I came across as a boy and wanted after so many years, sort of like the 993 911. To me they are classics, but YMMV.

[sgmgolf]

I'm wit you Fred. I take nothing away from 116520 and the new Daytona-C....both are beautiful watches. BUT I prefer my 16520 Zenith Daytona...it is mighty fine and suits my taste and style perfectly.....this one stays with me.

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by kevmacau

116520 is 100% rolex blood. I consider it as desirable as the zenith. and I disagree that the new ceramic is an 'improved' model. It is just another option for those who prefer a sportier look. No Daytona is superior to another.

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the 116520 was THE real OG rolex daytona w the 4130 movement....their can only be ONE original....

the ceramics are nice but rolex should have made a true 40mm or 42mm...they dropped the ball in this regard.....

[arguetaoscar]

Love my 116520 and I think the Ceramic looks amazing, but I think the bezel looks very busy... As said before, very nice sporty look, not as dressy or classy as 116520.



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[Rolex addict]

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

I personally don't care about whether or not a 116520 is collectible, as I already have mine, and I'm never selling it. It's the same spiel every time a ceramic watch is announced. Everyone goes crazy for it, and then the tried-and-true older model is still in demand. The 16710 is selling like hot cakes still, when it was "improved in every way" with the 116710. A new model doesn't have to diminish the value of previous model long-term. There's probably going to be a very strong demand for the new one for many years, and there will be a short run of people dumping their 116520s in the next year, but that doesn't mean the 520 is suddenly garbage.

I've been saying the exact same thing. There will be a short run of people dumping their 116520, but the value will come back up. Most likely, there will always be a strong market for vintage. Value will be based on condition. It will be great for people who want a daytona but don't want to pay retail.

[Wesley Crusher]

Not sure about the 116520, but I think the Zenith Daytona will hold its value very well.

[red1108nyc]

Originally Posted by sgmgolf

I'm wit you Fred. I take nothing away from 116520 and the new Daytona-C....both are beautiful watches. BUT I prefer my 16520 Zenith Daytona...it is mighty fine and suits my taste and style perfectly.....this one stays with me.

A beaut my friend

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by red1108nyc

Thanks bud - This is an A serial

A or P (an supposely late U serials) are the only series with the 78790A SEL compatible lip on the case, so one of those would be sweet!



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[red1108nyc]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

A or P (an supposely late U serials) are the only series with the 78790A SEL compatible lip on the case, so one of those would be sweet!



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Yes and A-P are the last of the Zenith movement with luminova dial along with SEL.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by red1108nyc

Yes and A-P are the last of the Zenith movement with luminova dial along with SEL.

Thanks! According to this information the A-P SEL / luminova black dial was produced in small quantities:



So you have a rare, true gem in your hands!


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[red1108nyc]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Thanks! According to this information the A-P SEL / luminova black dial was produced in small quantities:



So you have a rare, true gem in your hands!


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Wow.. wait til you see the full intact green case back sticker on this one ha ha!!

[gtnator]

Originally Posted by red1108nyc

Love the new C-Tona and placed the order for the white. However, the more I look at these older 16520s.. they are still very classy and very charming.. sort of a sweet spot for collectors I would think going forward.

What do you think?

I completely agree. All Daytonas are fantastic! We now just have another version of a classic, classy watch!!

[landroverking]

I wish some one would post a chart like above with regards to TT WG and Goid.

[BLACKHORSE 6]

The fact that anyone is even having this discussion shows that both the Daytona as a watch and Rolex as a brand are very strong.

Rolex moved forward with the model in a manner that added improvements but paid homage to the past. This is why Rolex is such a great company; they've increased equity in both the new model and the brand itself without taking anything away from the previous model.

[travisb]

Totally agree Fred!
The new 116500 will be in good company..




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[roger 2011]

Here's mine;

[red1108nyc]

Originally Posted by travisb

Totally agree Fred!
The new 116500 will be in good company..




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Phenomenal piece buddy Travis!

Strange but as I await the new C-tona, I have been appreciating these classic bezels so much and been swapping between 16520 and 116520 all week.

Thinking of buying a 116520 or two and tuck them away!

Originally Posted by BLACKHORSE 6

The fact that anyone is even having this discussion shows that both the Daytona as a watch and Rolex as a brand are very strong.

Rolex moved forward with the model in a manner that added improvements but paid homage to the past. This is why Rolex is such a great company; they've increased equity in both the new model and the brand itself without taking anything away from the previous model.

So well said and complete opposite of the Panerai strategy where the new model strategy has been dilutive rather than accretive towards brand value.

[iPhone1966]

HIi this is my 16520 P.

Marco

[ratty]

Originally Posted by travisb

Totally agree Fred!
The new 116500 will be in good company..




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Beautiful watch.

I would prefer this to the new version.