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Old 1 August 2016, 05:45 PM   #61
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Please I need some input, what kind of Rolex do you all have and what is the avg rate of seconds gained or lost per day. I have a two tone Sub 116613 and my rate is about +2 seconds a day. my sub 116610 SS is about -2 seconds give or take a sec. My question is, is this the avg for everyone else as well? do i need to bring it in to have it looked at? thanks a bunch everyone!
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Old 1 August 2016, 06:24 PM   #62
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Mine is either -1 or + 1 per day.
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Old 1 August 2016, 06:31 PM   #63
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New 116710BLNR is spot on, or too small to care about after several weeks. Remarkable. Older unserviced 1999 16710 is 10s+/ day. Demagnetizing should cure that and if not then maybe, just maybe, a regulation. And if that doesn't work then maybe a service.


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Old 2 August 2016, 01:24 AM   #64
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16610 Submariner +1 -1. Depends on how I lay it on the dresser at night.
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Old 2 August 2016, 01:33 AM   #66
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D serial 16710. I last set it on July 21 (11 days ago). Sunce then it has gained about a quarter-second, total. It's pretty much spot-on and I can keep it that way if I pay attention and position it accordingly overnight.
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Sub C ND, was -6/day yet sent in for re-regulation two months ago. Now it is, during two weeks of use, +1 second in total. Do note I virtually never take it off.
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Old 2 August 2016, 02:27 AM   #68
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I've been wearing my Yacht-Master 116622 for three weeks now. It is 1 second ahead. So that makes the daily deviation about +0.05 seconds per day. That is pretty sweet!
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Old 2 August 2016, 02:36 AM   #69
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Totally normal, especially if it's a red tag. My red tag Daytona is +4 and my green tag SS Sub is +0.2 per day

These of course are for fully wound
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EXPII 42mm stays on my wrist 24/7.

-1.344827586206897 sec/day, not that I'm paying close attention or anything.
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Old 2 August 2016, 03:14 AM   #71
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Very consistent +6.2 sec / day on 6 month old 114300. Not happy, but can live with it. I'll part with it for 5 weeks and get it regulated by RSC Dallas when I pick up a new piece. Not worth wearing my 18 year old Quartz Tag for 5 weeks though!
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^You shouldn't have to send it to a RSC for a regulation. Most ADs have a watchmaker on staff competent enough to do that in less than an hour. Maybe a couple day turnaround. Or a competent independent. Not a complicated job at all.
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Old 2 August 2016, 04:17 AM   #73
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Very consistent +6.2 sec / day on 6 month old 114300. Not happy, but can live with it. I'll part with it for 5 weeks and get it regulated by RSC Dallas when I pick up a new piece. Not worth wearing my 18 year old Quartz Tag for 5 weeks though!
Has it been exposed to any magnets? Green seal should be + or - 2 secs
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Old 2 August 2016, 04:30 AM   #74
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Yachtmaster probably had the most time on the wrist followed by the Patek, then explorer. When I'm not wearing them they are on a winder. I honestly don't know what deviation would cause me to worry, but I think it's far more than anyone in this thread has reported. I'd even tolerate a couple minutes a week, partially because of how long the Patek service would take. 👍



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I bought a used 14060M from royaloak36. He didn't know the service history but I'm thinking it had to have been serviced recently. This thing hasn't gained or lost barely anything in 2 weeks. Couldn't tell you exactly other than it's pretty much spot on with my cell phone.
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Old 2 August 2016, 04:50 AM   #76
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^You shouldn't have to send it to a RSC for a regulation. Most ADs have a watchmaker on staff competent enough to do that in less than an hour. Maybe a couple day turnaround. Or a competent independent. Not a complicated job at all.
Agreed. Not purchased at an AD (bought from David); are ADs able to do warranty work?
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Old 2 August 2016, 04:52 AM   #78
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Has it been exposed to any magnets? Green seal should be + or - 2 secs
Not that I know of. It's consistently been at +6.2 since day 1. My expectation was certainly +/- 2, given their new internal standards.
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Old 2 August 2016, 09:18 AM   #79
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Sub c 0.7 seconds a day. I definitely can't complain with that.


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Old 3 August 2016, 03:59 AM   #80
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Not that I know of. It's consistently been at +6.2 since day 1. My expectation was certainly +/- 2, given their new internal standards.
I think it's possible it may have been exposed accidentally prior to you receiving whether that be during shipping or whatever. Magnetized movements always gain time, but perhaps yours wasn't exposed to a force large enough for it to be incredibly obvious. I'd give your local AD a call, explain the issue and let them know you purchased from a "friend" and see what the options may be. A simple demagnetization can be done at many AD's for a reasonable price, if in fact that is the issue. I haven't heard of any rate results of pieces new from AD's being that off yet with the green seal and on top of that Rolex tests accuracy after the movement is cased in the piece. I don't mean that to say that your seller had any hand in this at all, just that you never know how it's treated by Fedex, UPS, etc during shipping. It's very possible for magnets to reach the piece in the shipping process if exposed and the package doesn't include anti-magnetic shielding.
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Old 3 August 2016, 08:38 PM   #81
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My 1.5 yrs old YM 116622 deviates -1.97 s/d on average in my last test over a 5 days period but could easily be reduced to -1.3 s/d (if laid only in vertical 3up position when not worn). Breakdown as follows:

• - 1.4 s/d worn
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Old 3 August 2016, 09:32 PM   #84
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I think it's possible it may have been exposed accidentally prior to you receiving whether that be during shipping or whatever. Magnetized movements always gain time, but perhaps yours wasn't exposed to a force large enough for it to be incredibly obvious. I'd give your local AD a call, explain the issue and let them know you purchased from a "friend" and see what the options may be. A simple demagnetization can be done at many AD's for a reasonable price, if in fact that is the issue. I haven't heard of any rate results of pieces new from AD's being that off yet with the green seal and on top of that Rolex tests accuracy after the movement is cased in the piece. I don't mean that to say that your seller had any hand in this at all, just that you never know how it's treated by Fedex, UPS, etc during shipping. It's very possible for magnets to reach the piece in the shipping process if exposed and the package doesn't include anti-magnetic shielding.
Thanks for the info; I'll look into getting it demagnetized
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Has it been exposed to any magnets? Green seal should be + or - 2 secs
Lets get things perfectly straight if any watch movement is magnetised its mainly the hairspring thats the culprit regarding accuracy.And in general movement will speed up and run very very very erratic or completely stop and refuse to start hairspring stuck together.Seeing the original posters watch is consistent +6.2 its most certainly not magnetised just needs regulation or even a full manual wind.And the green seal what this means Rolex has further regulated the movement in its case on a machine after its been tested to -4+6 seconds at the COSC to get chronometer certification.On the machine at Rolex tested again to a Average of -2+2 seconds over any 24 hour period and passed said test at time of testing.This do not mean it will perform exactly the same every single day for life while on the wrist.
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Lets get things perfectly straight if any watch movement is magnetised its mainly the hairspring thats the culprit regarding accuracy.And in general movement will speed up and run very very very erratic or completely stop and refuse to start hairspring stuck together.Seeing the original posters watch is consistent +6.2 its most certainly not magnetised just needs regulation or even a full manual wind.And the green seal what this means Rolex has further regulated the movement in its case on a machine after its been tested to -4+6 seconds at the COSC to get chronometer certification.On the machine at Rolex tested again to a Average of -2+2 seconds over any 24 hour period and passed said test at time of testing.This do not mean it will perform exactly the same every single day for life while on the wrist.
Thank you - it has been consistent: always between 6.0 and 6.3s fast. Main question: if I take the watch to an AD to regulate, will it void warranty because service is not performed by RSC? After reading the Tourneau horror stories, I'm not sure I want anyone opening the watch (even for a simple regulation) unless they work directly for RSC.
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Thank you - it has been consistent: always between 6.0 and 6.3s fast. Main question: if I take the watch to an AD to regulate, will it void warranty because service is not performed by RSC? After reading the Tourneau horror stories, I'm not sure I want anyone opening the watch (even for a simple regulation) unless they work directly for RSC.
If any Rolex AD has a in-house watchmaker then he is authorised to work on any Rolex watch. Consistancy is the most important factor with any mechanical watch, but in the real world will regulating the movement to say +2 make that much difference out of 86400 in a day.
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My GMTc gains +1s during the day. If I rest it on it's back over night the timing remains neutral. If I rest it with crown up it will lose -1s over night, and this is what I do.

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My GMTII is atrocious but within COSC (about +5 secs a day consistently). The Yachty is pretty good but the well worn Day-Date I had was the most accurate auto I've owned. Consistency is the important thing and if they gain/lose the same everyday they can be tweeked towards better accuracy.
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