Ellen DeGeneres sporting a PP while receiving Medal of freedom

[HeartRolex]

I find people too easily dismiss political INcorrectness when it doesn't directly target them. Nevertheless I wish you all a happy and safe Thanksgiving. Take good care.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by texex91

Cheers my friend...let me know when you are coming to Austin

Happy Thanksgiving again and peace.

Will do. I've heard nothing but good things about your town

[lapince]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Feel free to x2 x3 this if you chose to judge people based on their merits and not their sexual orientation.

Ellen always has great watches

What has her sexual orientation anything to do with this? I wrote no comment as I hate when celebrities use their influence for political means, whichever they are, and it seems in this case to promote war effort, and I hate when civilians are given medals for this, veterans are often treated like crap, but because some celeb did something they get a medal??? Come on. I don't believe even one person here did not want to comment because of what she does sexually, but clearly for more serious reasons

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by lapince

What has her sexual orientation anything to do with this? I wrote no comment as I hate when celebrities use their influence for political means, whichever they are, and it seems in this case to promote war effort, and I hate when civilians are given medals for this, veterans are often treated like crap, but because some celeb did something they get a medal??? Come on. I don't believe even one person here did not want to comment because of what she does sexually, but clearly for more serious reasons

With all due respect Arnaud, I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. This has nothing to do with war effort. Ellen was being honored for her civil work. Not political and not military related at all.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by GB-man

With all due respect Arnaud, I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. This has nothing to do with war effort. Ellen was being honored for her civil work. Not political and not military related at all.

The medal she is being given is given to civilians who helped with a war effort, I googled it and that was what it said, maybe they gave it for another reason, so if I am wrong I apologize, but in theory it is given for this, of course if it is like the french legion d'honneur which was supposed to be given to soldiers Poutin got it, Bob Dylan, even Madonna I think... again I don't believe one second there was hate because of her sexual orientation but I might be wrong

[lapince]

Ok I did some more research and it can be given for other reasons, so sorry, I thought it was only given for civilians who helped in the war effort, since I hate when celebrities start to put their noses into what doesn't concern them, I didn't want to comment, so don't take into account my posts

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by lapince

Ok I did some more research and it can be given for other reasons, so sorry, I thought it was only given for civilians who helped in the war effort

No worries. We give out awards for everything over here

[lapince]

Originally Posted by GB-man

No worries. We give out awards for everything over here

Oh you are not the only ones, in France when you see the people who got the legion d'honneur it is nuts, so much that many people refuse it because it has lost all meaning

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by HeartRolex

As you guessed, it's the Patek Philippe Nautilus Chronograph 18k Rose Gold 41mm with Black Dial. This watch would make me dance the happy dance all day long.

Thanks, Butterfly! Couldn't really tell for sure from the photo and I'm not that up to speed on her collection besides the Platona.

[imcarnuts]

What is the criteria for being awarded a Medal of Freedom? A little off topic but......

[imcarnuts]

Originally Posted by imcarnuts

What is the criteria for being awarded a Medal of Freedom? A little off topic but......

OK - I Wiki'd it. "It recognizes those people who have made an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors". And she qualifies how??????

[lapince]

Originally Posted by imcarnuts

OK - I Wiki'd it. "It recognizes those people who have made an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors". And she qualifies how??????

Well if you can find by which criteria Poutin, bob Dylan, Madonna and truck loads of other celebrities got the biggest decoration in France, I would love to know, my father was the spokesman for the french community of Washington DC, and a few more things, he was proposed one 20 years ago, he refused it as he didn't see any reason for it, and more and more people refuse it as well, at least the ones who have a little honor. Amazing how a military medal is now given to anyone, even foreigners, shameful if you ask me...

Imagine that Bachar el Assad, Nicolae Ceaușescu, Poutin and other very nice guys like them got one, amazing really and not long ago the heir of Saoudi Arabia got his as well, you really wonder what the criteria are for it, since a singer and dictators are eligible for one...

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by lapince

Well if you can find by which criteria Poutin, bob Dylan, Madonna and truck loads of other celebrities got the biggest decoration in France, I would love to know, my father was the spokesman for the french community of Washington DC, and a few more things, he was proposed one 20 years ago, he refused it as he didn't see any reason for it, and more and more people refuse it as well, at least the ones who have a little honor. Amazing how a military medal is now given to anyone, even foreigners, shameful if you ask me...

The Medal of Freedom is not a military medal. It is one of the two highest civilian awards along with the Congressional Gold Medal. The Medal of Honor is the highest military award.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

The Medal of Freedom is not a military medal. It is one of the two highest civilian awards along with the Congressional Gold Medal. The Medal of Honor is the highest military award.

I guess when I googled it I must have read about the Medal of Honor or another instead of medal of freedom, and it said 'for civilians who helped in a war effort', so my mistake

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by lapince

Well if you can find by which criteria Poutin, bob Dylan, Madonna and truck loads of other celebrities got the biggest decoration in France, I would love to know, my father was the spokesman for the french community of Washington DC, and a few more things, he was proposed one 20 years ago, he refused it as he didn't see any reason for it, and more and more people refuse it as well, at least the ones who have a little honor. Amazing how a military medal is now given to anyone, even foreigners, shameful if you ask me...

Imagine that Bachar el Assad, Nicolae Ceaușescu, Poutin and other very nice guys like them got one, amazing really and not long ago the heir of Saoudi Arabia got his as well, you really wonder what the criteria are for it, since a singer and dictators are eligible for one...

Wow , I didn't know dictators received these awards as well !!!
Lousy if you ask me ...
And I'm impressed you spelled Nicolae Ceaușescu correct ...
Although he wasn't a very nice man ... But Christmas came 1989
and the people won that day ...

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by lapince

I guess when I googled it I must have read about the Medal of Honor or another instead of medal of freedom, and it said 'for civilians who helped in a war effort', so my mistake

LOL, when the subject doesn't come up for awhile I forget which is which.

[Tmac478]

Funny how this thread went from a watch being worn by a celebrity to whether a lesbian deserved the Medal of Freedom. First of all, it's strictly a civilian award and up to the discretion of the sitting president. This year's recipients included Michael Jordan, Bill and Melinda Gates, a lady who wrote code for the Apollo 13 mission and many others , most of them famous for just one skill or contribution. I actually watched the whole ceremony. It was quite extraordinary. Obama read a short bio about each recipient. Here's part of what he said about Ellen:

It’s easy to forget now, when we’ve come so far, where now marriage is equal under the law, just how much courage was required for Ellen to come out on the most public of stages almost 20 years ago. Just how important it was not just for the LGBT community, but for all us to see somebody so full of kindness and light—somebody we liked so much, somebody who could be our neighbor or our colleague or our sister—challenge our own assumptions, remind us that we have more in common than we realize, push our country in the direction of justice. What an incredible burden it was to bear, to risk your career like that. People don’t do that very often.”

Now , I can't relate to this at all but I still got emotional watching Ellen sobbing away and Obama holding back tears himself. If you're a part of the LGBT community, this probably holds great significance for you. She deserved this award just as much as anyone else on that stage.
Not only that but she's got great taste in watches.

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[ap1]

Way to bring it tmac

[.db]

Very well said, tmac!

[lig]

Originally Posted by ap1

Way to bring it tmac

+1. Well put.

[rebel_1]

Originally Posted by Tmac478

Funny how this thread went from a watch being worn by a celebrity to whether a lesbian deserved the Medal of Freedom. First of all, it's strictly a civilian award and up to the discretion of the sitting president. This year's recipients included Michael Jordan, Bill and Melinda Gates, a lady who wrote code for the Apollo 13 mission and many others , most of them famous for just one skill or contribution. I actually watched the whole ceremony. It was quite extraordinary. Obama read a short bio about each recipient. Here's part of what he said about Ellen:

It’s easy to forget now, when we’ve come so far, where now marriage is equal under the law, just how much courage was required for Ellen to come out on the most public of stages almost 20 years ago. Just how important it was not just for the LGBT community, but for all us to see somebody so full of kindness and light—somebody we liked so much, somebody who could be our neighbor or our colleague or our sister—challenge our own assumptions, remind us that we have more in common than we realize, push our country in the direction of justice. What an incredible burden it was to bear, to risk your career like that. People don’t do that very often.”

Now , I can't relate to this at all but I still got emotional watching Ellen sobbing away and Obama holding back tears himself. If you're a part of the LGBT community, this probably holds great significance for you. She deserved this award just as much as anyone else on that stage.
Not only that but she's got great taste in watches.

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I can assure you that many people, including the US service member that died today, are WAY more qualified to earn a medal than a talk show host.

I don't care about her sexual orientation. I also do not include the duty of talk show host(ess) as a patriotic duty. If that were the case, there are way more qualified including Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Rodgers.

As for her watch collection, I'm sure we can find a common ground. Just don't surround the narrative with the controversy of an award to satisfy a unique electorate.

My initial comment was no comment for a reason and not the reason some think.

If the OP wanted to solicit non political responses, then the OP should have chosen a different reference picture or should have cropped the opinionated part out of the photo.

IMHO, the OP opened the can of worms, not the respondents.

[Tmac478]

Originally Posted by rebel_1

I can assure you that many people, including the US service member that died today, are WAY more qualified to earn a medal than a talk show host.

Apples and Oranges. There are specific medals for service members. She received an award specifically for civilians.

I don't care about her sexual orientation. I also do not include the duty of talk show host(ess) as a patriotic duty. If that were the case, there are way more qualified including Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Rodgers.

Again, the award is not for patriotic duty. Its for a contribution to our society. What did Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Bruce Springsteen do that was so patriotic? BTW, the award had nothing to do with her hosting a talk show and I think you'll find millions of people who would strongly disagree that Captain Kangaroo is more deserving.



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[rebel_1]

Originally Posted by Tmac478

Apples and Oranges. There are specific medals for service members. She received an award specifically for civilians.



Again, the award is not for patriotic duty. Its for a contribution to our society. What did Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Bruce Springsteen do that was so patriotic? BTW, the award had nothing to do with her hosting a talk show and I think you'll find millions of people who would strongly disagree that Captain Kangaroo is more deserving.



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No comment.

[Mbbgysam]

Originally Posted by rebel_1

No comment.

Originally Posted by rebel_1

...the OP should have chosen a different reference picture or should have cropped the opinionated part out of the photo.

What exactly is the "opinionated part" of the photo? The title of the thread is "Ellen DeGeneres sporting a PP while receiving Medal of freedom." I can't think of a more appropriate photo for the thread than literally a photo of Ellen wearing a PP while receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Why would the OP crop it?

[rebel_1]

Originally Posted by Mbbgysam

[topcat30093]

Very nicely put Tmac

Whether the remark "No Comment" was meant for something else, only those who wrote it can say.

But for many of us it was unnecessary.

Why even take part?

If all you are going to write is "No Comment"

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by topcat30093

Very nicely put Tmac

Whether the remark "No Comment" was meant for something else, only those who wrote it can say.

But for many of us it was unnecessary.

Why even take part?

If all you are going to write is "No Comment"

+1

And well-said, Tmac.

[conkers]

Let's get back on topic or delete this thread. It is a nice watch and always a pleasure to see an obvious watch fan sporting a nice watch.

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by conkers

Let's get back on topic or delete this thread. It is a nice watch and always a pleasure to see an obvious watch fan sporting a nice watch.

Agreed ...

Talk about the watch or sell everything and just get
a swatch ...

Just kidding about the swatch part ...
Unless you really want one !!!

[AK797]

Yes Roger, let's just stick to watch comments or positive comments in the best spirit of TRF.