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Old 13 March 2017, 06:45 PM   #61
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We really need to fillter out all the misinformation that appears on these threads??

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Old 13 March 2017, 11:23 PM   #62
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We really need to fillter out all the misinformation that appears on these threads??

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Yes, by quoting and commenting; pretty easy actually.
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Old 14 March 2017, 12:29 AM   #63
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Whelp, excuse me while I go get the seals checked!
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Old 14 March 2017, 01:04 AM   #64
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This is interesting because I went to the sauna just yesterday and thought about wearing my Rolex but wore my beater seiko instead and had 0 issues.

I've showered with my rolexes often and never experienced any issues either. Hopefully this works out for you OP.
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Old 14 March 2017, 01:14 AM   #65
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No.

Setting the time does not "open up" a hole or doorway into the watch; the seals are o-rings inside the case, around the stem. Nothing gets in, or out, simply by unscrewing the crown.

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Old 14 March 2017, 01:19 AM   #66
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Hot tubs, daily showers, saunas, living on a boat, nothing ever affected my Sea Dweller. And it didn't see its 1st service until 14 years old when it finally started losing time.
I also shower daily and hot tub with my 114200. Gone from hot tub to cold pool without a 2nd thought.
Now, I have seen condensation on outside of case and sapphire going between temp extremes but never inside.
In my opinion, it sounds like possibly case of bad crystal seal. Possible impact damage? I had that happen to a Sub before but was caught before any case compromise. But my opinion isn't worth a whole n lot.

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We really need to fillter out all the misinformation that appears on these threads??

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You are against freedom of speech. Wow. I would suggest I am not the only one who will tell you prolonged contact with high humidity causes water ingress just google Rolex tropical dial. Is it likely with a new watch and this much damage, I don't know. Is it possible yes. Again boiling a watch won't hurt it, water boils at 212 degrees. Steaming it will. If anyone wants to steam their watch please don't.

And with that I sign off this discussion.
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Old 14 March 2017, 01:20 AM   #68
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We need a "disputed" tag like Facebook is employing

...I bought a brand new Sub Date and immediately took it on a trip. From the hot tub, to the sauna, to a steam shower, and into the ocean - I didn't have a single problem. I took nice, hot, long showers wearing the watch. This sounds like a watch-specific issue, not related to Rolex, Submariners, or Oyster cases in general. Showers, "steam molecules," nor saunas are going to get moisture into a secure Oyster.
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Old 14 March 2017, 04:43 AM   #69
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No.

Setting the time does not "open up" a hole or doorway into the watch; the seals are o-rings inside the case, around the stem. Nothing gets in, or out, simply by unscrewing the crown.
Interesting thread. Thank you for this Larry
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Old 14 March 2017, 05:40 AM   #70
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I have steam showered w/ my ymii many many times n never had an issue..
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Old 14 March 2017, 06:17 AM   #71
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It's not steam, it's water vapor. Steam is 212F/100C and is invisible.
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Old 14 March 2017, 06:30 AM   #72
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Old 14 March 2017, 07:22 AM   #73
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There is no steam in a shower or steam room. You would be scalded, there is however water vapour a plenty, none of which will enter a waterproof watch!

That watch was sealed in a VERY humid environment, or isn't sealed properly. In a pressure pot the much higher pressure helps the seals. the most dangerous time for a watch is at atmospheric pressure, ie a shower, when the seals have no pressure against them

My watches go in the shower at least once a day (normally twice), go in Jacuzzi and steam rooms, swimming pools and on mixed gas dives.
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Old 14 March 2017, 07:38 AM   #74
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Sounds like a lean of nonsense from the dealer. I'd ask them to foot the bill and have it services at Rolex including any parts that need replacement.
I would not trust there pressure test either.

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Old 14 March 2017, 07:39 AM   #75
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Just re-read this thread to see it going in circles....

My sub is a triple lock. My explorer 2 is double lock.

Know what any of that means?

Not that I'd want to, but 100% you can unscrew your watch crown and take it to whatever the maximum rated depth it goes.

Google it.
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Old 14 March 2017, 07:53 AM   #76
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I am going to stick to my original post and say that the humidity must have been high in the place where they opened the caseback. That trapped the water vapor in the watch. But like the other poster said, it shouldn't be THAT MUCH water. It should clear quickly. For those that had no problems consider yourself LUCKY, since it probably means it was serviced in less moisture/humidity environment.
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Old 14 March 2017, 08:38 AM   #77
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Try putting an ice cube on the crystal , for a period of time you will see an acumalation of moisture.
Just like condensation on a window that's moisture present in the air trapped inside you're watch .
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Old 14 March 2017, 11:33 AM   #78
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Why are they opening the watches?
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Old 14 March 2017, 08:20 PM   #79
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Yes, by quoting and commenting; pretty easy actually.
Go back through my posts and tell me how many time you want my same answers repeated?

Did you know that splashing your hands really hard like when swimming can increase the pressure on your Rolex stem seals by like 1000%%?

I read this on the web so it must be true.
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Old 14 March 2017, 08:30 PM   #80
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You are against freedom of speech. Wow. I would suggest I am not the only one who will tell you prolonged contact with high humidity causes water ingress just google Rolex tropical dial. Is it likely with a new watch and this much damage, I don't know. Is it possible yes. Again boiling a watch won't hurt it, water boils at 212 degrees. Steaming it will. If anyone wants to steam their watch please don't.

And with that I sign off this discussion.
Tgft.

I am not against freedom of speech, just misinformation.

High humidity causes water ingress?
Boil a Rolex but don't steam it?

I just can't believe these comments.
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Old 14 March 2017, 08:30 PM   #81
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All I can say is that I have taken my Explorer 2 many times in sauna and steam baths. No problem whatsoever.
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Old 14 March 2017, 08:47 PM   #82
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A Rolex Triplock is rated to 500Bar + a margin so not much gets in or out.

Except for those pesky Helium molecules at pressure hence the release valve on the deeper divers.

Most moisture inside a watch is by way of faulty seals.

Have them serviced.
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I'm going to hazard a guess that the watch got hot enough to expand just enough to let some water in but subsequently returned to fully waterproof when it cooled down. This shouldn't happen on a healthy watch but, again a guess that the seals aren't tip top. Solution? Lukewarm water only until they're replaced with brand new lubed ones.
Austenitic stainless steel has high temperature resistance. The watch would have to get pretty hot to expand enough for the seals to leak or fail. Probably hot enough to melt the O-rings before the steel expanded so much to leak. Definitely hot enough to kill the wearer.

Keep in mind that what we perceive as hot water is only a few degrees above our body temperature. Scalding hot is only about 30 degrees above body temperature. These are very small changes in temperature compared to the temperature required to deform the watch shape out of spec.

Agree with other posters that there is no steam in the steam bath. It's a warm fog, or cloud, not steam. The oyster case was designed to keep moisture like this out. If the watch passes a pressure test there is nothing the wearer can survive that the watch won't survive as well (within its rated depth).
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I hope that was a nice post A.
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Old 14 March 2017, 11:16 PM   #85
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I'm calling BS on the pressure tester he saw the results on.
No drop/deflection on both watches. Stuck needle I'd say and a way for the seller to get out of it.
Seems they made it right though.
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Did you know that splashing your hands really hard like when swimming can increase the pressure on your Rolex stem seals by like 1000%%?

I read this on the web so it must be true.
Wow! Really??? That would be the same as taking it down to 297 feet! Hard to believe.
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bad seals. and never get your rollies wet or in humidity above 25%!!!
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Old 15 March 2017, 01:49 AM   #88
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Steamy shower is not really steam. Real steam forms at 100 degrees Celsius. He would have had severe burns and lying in the hospital bed at this point.
Steamy shower is just condensation like fog but warmer.
You guys got it all wrong. Steamy hot shower... good luck.
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Old 15 March 2017, 04:32 AM   #89
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Wow! Really??? That would be the same as taking it down to 297 feet! Hard to believe.
It's hard to believe because he's pulling your leg.
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Did not Rolex advertise some years ago that they boiled a watch for 14 minutes and it still maintained within COSC standards?
A steam sauna should be no problem!
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