Hulk being discontinued

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by padi56

Agree afraid now this forum is going downhill with all the if I buy this or that how much will it be worth etc.And now unsubstantiated rumours please bring back the TRF we had 15 years ago.

Agreed 100000%

Every single bloody thread is about "is this collectible", "I just bought this because its hot" "is this discontinued"

Not even worth being here anymore really. Which is a shame.

[Uggi]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Agreed 100000%

Every single bloody thread is about "is this collectible", "I just bought this because its hot" "is this discontinued"

Not even worth being here anymore really. Which is a shame.

So you're posting on here to say its not worth posting on here?

[Shaney]

I don't want to derail this thread even more, however I feel I have something to add as a fairly new user.

I've found this forum to be a great place to share and learn about things I had no idea about in the Rolex world and even outwith Rolex at some points.

I think there is a breed of people, who have been around forever we could probably argue, who care about: value, showing off, who is wearing what

This place gives those people a chance to come on here and blindly ask questions without bothering to read first, of course they wouldn't, why would they? You saw what they are interested in.

I am glad to be a part of this forum, I appreciate there are folk who have been on here since the beginning and have saw it change over the years but I'd urge you not to abandon the forum because there are people like me who are loving this new world and who greatly appreciate the experience you all have, as there is always something that can be learned or shared.

[mgsooner]

Originally Posted by padi56

Agree afraid now this forum is going downhill with all the if I buy this or that how much will it be worth etc.And now unsubstantiated rumours please bring back the TRF we had 15 years ago.

Bring back the time when you could buy a Rolex.

[JR16]

Eventually all models get retired so if you keep saying model XX Is being discontinued, eventually you will be right !


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[77T]

Originally Posted by padi56

Agree afraid now this forum is going downhill with all the if I buy this or that how much will it be worth etc.And now unsubstantiated rumours please bring back the TRF we had 15 years ago.

I certainly agree with the sentiment.

Don’t you have a ban button?

It is doable - return TRF to a more focused and serious forum by sanctioning irresponsible and unsporting rumormongering. Add a rule then enforce it.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[hsr86]

Another suggestion....if the topic is of no interest...don’t click it. It does work. You won’t read anything that might raise your blood pressure.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[hsr86]

GREAT WATCH!!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Skylife]

It will get update and change to two tone Hulk.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by Ragnarok

Okay, this topic has been in circulation for over 3 years and I doubt anything will change in the foreseeable future. However, I was at an southern AD this afternoon and the store manager said that the Rolex associate told him that they cant take anymore orders for the hulk as it is being discontinued. Not sure whether there are any merit to his comment as there are already a number of watches being discontinued in the Basel release and to discontinue yet another one is just crazy..
Again, this is what was communicated and please do not shoot the messenger.



Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

The Hulk is an allocation piece, like most of the other "in demand" SS sport models. The AD most likely cannot "order" the watch because of this reason. As far as discontinued, this watch forum rumor has refused to die.

[18●20●22●▼●2●4●6]

Has Rolex ever done new SKU announcements or discontinuation outside of Basel World?

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

Maybe at next years Basel, but not until then at the earliest.

[Solo118]

Originally Posted by Coopdog

It wouldn’t surprise me if they did discontinue it and re-release it in the future with a new generation movement, as they have done with the entire GMT line up at this point. It could be as simple as they want to blow out the existing stock and just swap the movement and make small dial changes and continue selling it as a 126610LV.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly this. Surprised they didn't pop in the new movements already. However would it be necessary to change the model #? Some references had movement changes with no change to their model number (Explorer II and GMT come to mind when the 3186 were installed)

[TheDude]

Originally Posted by Solo118

Exactly this. Surprised they didn't pop in the new movements already. However would it be necessary to change the model #? Some references had movement changes with no change to their model number (Explorer II and GMT come to mind when the 3186 were installed)

Judging by the redesigned case on the newest GMT, the movement retainer must be different - or perhaps the overall dimensions of the movement differ. I doubt they reworked the case only to move the lug holes.

They don’t have to change the ref # but they mostly do. Like you say, I can only think of the 16710 and Exp II going from the 3185 to 3186 without a ref # change. There are probably others, but it’s not common.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[18●20●22●▼●2●4●6]

How many would go nuts, if Rolex were to launch no-date Hulk with new movement and all-blue GMT Blueberry 2.0!

mannn... a man could wish; right?

Originally Posted by Solo118

Exactly this. Surprised they didn't pop in the new movements already. However would it be necessary to change the model #? Some references had movement changes with no change to their model number (Explorer II and GMT come to mind when the 3186 were installed)

[RL777]

I think the Hulk could be on its last legs especially if the Sub is getting updated at Basel next year which I believe is very likely. I'm sure Rolex will keep producing them for awhile though, until late 2019-early 2020.

[TradeWizard]

Rumours eventually become reality, right??

[RobearH]

Originally Posted by TradeWizard

Rumours eventually become reality, right??

Kinda like the new of sports reporting...guess at enough possible outcomes citing anonymous sources and eventually you they hit nail on the head.

[Coopdog]

Fwiw (very little) I was talking to a dealer friend today and he just bought a new Hulk, stickered, open card and is not selling it because he’s pretty sure they are going away to the point where he’s going to wait and see if there is a big price bump when (if) it is discontinued.

It’s a little weird when a dealer won’t sell something- mist believe it’s going to happen pretty strongly.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Thanos]

Rolex creeping into AP territory. Soon SS sport models will only be available at Rolex 'Boutiques'. ADs will shrink.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

More BS nonsense. When will it ever end?

Never!!!!!

[dcash0615]

Originally Posted by 18●20●22●▼●2●4●6

Has Rolex ever done new SKU announcements or discontinuation outside of Basel World?

Deepsea James Cameron. Wasn’t a new model number, but an added dial option.

[Batmannr1]

Only Rolex knows if and when a watch will be discontinued. ADs know zilch, pure speculation. This forum needs a special fairy tale topic "My AD told me" , so mods can move this kind of threads over there.

[Rashid.bk]

If you say something every year, at some point one of those years it will be true. So who cares really. This watch has been produced for years and if you wanted it you could have bought it, and if you want it, then go buy it.
It seems so difficult now a days for people to just um like buy a watch you like and enjoy it because you simply like it regardless of any other metric.

Think back when the five digits were discontinued or when the LV was discontinued, it was like ok...so what's next. Now people want that "ONE" special limited hard to get watch that is worth a million dollars...Omega is putting out LE's left and right, try that.

I had the LVc and sold it and have no regrets, why would I feel better about owning a discontinued item. I honestly feel the 114060 looks better and is a more usable watch. The green is beautiful, sure, but it isn't any more special than any other watch. It's all hype, in the 80's a Submariner costs more than a Daytona because of public perception. The Submariner had more prestige so Rolex priced it accordingly. Today it's the reverse. The popular Rolex logic seems to always state the the most unpopular watch is the one that will be most desired in 40-50 years....not many of you will care about that in 50 years, but if you think you will, better go scoop up those Milgauss and Airkings.

[IR201]

I understand the buy a watch just because you like it crowd, but honestly I don't think considering value retention or potential growth diminishes someone's WIS pureness.

If you try not to outlay additional money left and right, and like to try different pieces (as I do), then you'd be an idiot not to consider whether a particular piece is easy to get out of at no cost, or even if it can grow in value allowing you to enter into another tier and try something else simply through your original, less expensive purchase.

And we all like to think we are so sure about our keepers, so we might then be able to buy purely for what we like regardless of any hit we'd take in economic value loss, but it is hilarious reading older posts of people saying "this is the one watch I'll never let go of" and then seeing their signature years, months even weeks later and that piece is gone. Even better when this is a wedding watch or some other special piece.

The fact of the matter is, yes, some of these "hot" models are more desirable because they are hard to get, but isn't exclusivity part of the Rolex appeal in the first place? Rolex is always priced out for some people, so it is exclusive based on that, and many people like it because of that (and deep down, even if some of you don't think that is you, there's a good chance it unconsciously is). Now things are exclusive for an additional reason beyond price, which is availability. It's a different, perhaps heightened form of the same thing IMO.

Then there is the terrible crime of talking about or guessing future value of the pieces - some say it is pointless because no one knows. Sure, that is true that no one knows for sure. But is being sure the threshold for being able to discuss something? Where is the fun in that? And in fact, there's a large sample size of Rolex history to have an informed speculative discussion, considering different factors and trends that led to some watches being sought after over others. We speculate in all different areas of our life all of the time, from presidential projections to who will win the masters to what the weather is going to be next weekend. Yet for some reason we have to know things for sure to be able to enjoy a discussion about Rolex value? Makes no sense to me.

Honestly, my principle now when purchasing a watch is: (1) do i like the watch? AND (2) is it likely to hold value/even increase; AND (3) if the answer to 2 is no, go back to 1 and figure out just how much i like it and how much of a financial hit I'd be comfortable with taking should I ever change my mind and want to sell - because I probably will. Now if you are someone who never sells, only adds etc. then that is understandable too.

[Harry-57]

I'm a "never sells". If it eventually devalues to practically nothing, it will be no different to any other goods I have bought to wear, enjoy, and in many cases, wear out. If I want it and can afford it, I by it. I've bought one watch which I just didn't get on with. I gave it so someone I cared about and who wanted it. Each to our own. There is no one right way.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by TheDude

Judging by the redesigned case on the newest GMT, the movement retainer must be different - or perhaps the overall dimensions of the movement differ. I doubt they reworked the case only to move the lug holes.

They don’t have to change the ref # but they mostly do. Like you say, I can only think of the 16710 and Exp II going from the 3185 to 3186 without a ref # change. There are probably others, but it’s not common.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The 32 series movements are exactly the same size as the 31 series.

[Todd Turbo S]

If and when they ever discontinued, wouldn’t any watch being discounted be during the new releases? Has Rolex ever discontinued any watch after already rolling out the new ones?

[116710er]

Originally Posted by IR201

Honestly, my principle now when purchasing a watch is: (1) do i like the watch? AND (2) is it likely to hold value/even increase; AND (3) if the answer to 2 is no, go back to 1 and figure out just how much i like it and how much of a financial hit I'd be comfortable with taking should I ever change my mind and want to sell - because I probably will. Now if you are someone who never sells, only adds etc. then that is understandable too.

Well said, I completely agree. I guess if you can take a $5-$10K+ loss be OK with it, then good for you. For me, I can do a lot with that money so I'd rather not waste it on something I just "like" now but that I may later not be that crazy about. I've learned some expensive lessons being a so called "purist". Now, if I like a watch that I know will tank in value, I just wait until they get to a price point where taking a complete loss on it isn't so painful and it also gives me time to see if I do really want it. I'm no longer an impulse buyer, I've learned that it's just not financially sound. That being said, I also won't buy watches just because I think it's going to be worth more later on.

[TheDude]

Originally Posted by 116710er

Well said, I completely agree. I guess if you can take a $5-$10K+ loss be OK with it, then good for you. For me, I can do a lot with that money so I'd rather not waste it on something I just "like" now but that I may later not be that crazy about. I've learned some expensive lessons being a so called "purist". Now, if I like a watch that I know will tank in value, I just wait until they get to a price point where taking a complete loss on it isn't so painful and it also gives me time to see if I do really want it. I'm no longer an impulse buyer, I've learned that it's just not financially sound. That being said, I also won't buy watches just because I think it's going to be worth more later on.

Well, 10+ years ago, any new Rolex you bought and wore would take a short term hit (maybe $1500 on a SS GMT or Sub) until the MSRP rose a bit. What we have now is insane with instant 2x “appreciation” if you’re lucky enough to escape paying a premium.

The only watch I have that I’m under water on is my PAM 359 from 2010. Current value is about $1500 to $1750 under my purchase price but as someone pointed out, I like it so who cares? Considering the state of the Panerai market, I’m probably lucky it’s not worse...

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by IR201

Honestly, my principle now when purchasing a watch is: (1) do i like the watch? AND (2) is it likely to hold value/even increase; AND (3) if the answer to 2 is no, go back to 1 and figure out just how much i like it and how much of a financial hit I'd be comfortable with taking should I ever change my mind and want to sell - because I probably will. Now if you are someone who never sells, only adds etc. then that is understandable too.

This!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro