The future of the Smurf?

[Bluside]

Originally Posted by Tangier11

I really hope they make it a sunburst dial and alter the bezel color a bit. Looks too Tudorish for me

I was looking at one today at my AD and thinking the same thing about the color.

[akilis]

Originally Posted by BCCA

With 2020 right around the corner, what are some thoughts on Rolex discontinuing the Smurf in white metal and making it an all steel model and maybe then making the Hulk a yellow gold timepiece only?

you never know what they really gonna know until the march 21

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Galaga167

It’s not about diving, it’s about aesthetics. Would you take a watch valued at over $15k into the ocean? That’s what my Seikos are for.

I do that all the time. Gold is the best material for a diver in a Marine environment because of its corrosion resistance.

Many SS articles are still getting rusty around sea water.

Price is only relevant for some not so much for others

[Galaga167]

Originally Posted by joli160

I do that all the time. Gold is the best material for a diver in a Marine environment because of its corrosion resistance.

Many SS articles are still getting rusty around sea water.

Price is only relevant for some not so much for others

Precious metal divers were never intended for diving. It’s just about the aesthetic and the extreme wank that owning a Rolex has become.

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by Galaga167

Precious metal divers were never intended for diving. It’s just about the aesthetic and the extreme wank that owning a Rolex has become.

A Sub is a Sub. Just as capable whatever metal they make it out of. Aesthetics and wank value are surely secondary?

[Number3]

Originally Posted by Onikage

A Sub is a Sub. Just as capable whatever metal they make it out of. Aesthetics and wank value are surely secondary?

[gunhose]

Affirmative 18k is the best in or around salt water in all marine application. Price is the one that it's not used more !! My dads now mine yellow gold 18078 was in the ocean almost everyday and he never rinsed it. Looks great with every day patina but the case a bracelet hasn't changed since new in 1979 .

[Ruddiger]

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

That's le tigre fyi

Howdy,

Hilarious!!!

Take care,

Ruddiger

[direwolf]

Forgive my ignorance, but why is blue so much worse than black on a bezel for diving purposes? I realize that as you go deeper some colors are harder to see than others.

[rw2008]

I'd buy a Sunburst Smurf tomorrow

[Roddypeepa]

Can’t see Rolex dropping the WG and then immediately releasing same watch in SS. I’d love them to produce a blue, green and black ND versions but can’t see it in tandem with date models. Or maybe black dial, blue bezel.


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[klenboy]

I also agree with several on here that they may release this in SS. As for the dial itself they may go with either a sunburst or flat blue.

[daOnlyBG]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Forgive my ignorance, but why is blue so much worse than black on a bezel for diving purposes? I realize that as you go deeper some colors are harder to see than others.

It's just that, honestly. And water depth isn't necessarily the driving factor in how difficult some colors are to see- sometimes it's how clear the water is or whether the sun is directly shining on you, etc. Your watch could become difficult to see unless you're holding it directly in front of your face. That's why Rolex opted for the black scheme with white hour markers and such on the traditional Submariner.

There's an interesting Hodinkee article that explains some of this well:

"Water absorbs the colors of the light spectrum one at a time as a diver descends. Reds tend to disappear first at a mere 15 feet, followed by orange, and so on.These colors simply turn to a dull grey, unless they are fluorescent, in which case they all glow to great depths. It turns out that the colors that stay visible the longest underwater are yellow and blue, but this is all a moot point because the legibility of a dive watch really has nothing to do with the dial color, but rather the amount of contrast between hands and the dial. And for that, nothing really is better than a black dial with big fat white hands, specifically the minute hand."

[bobabreath]

People are clamoring for a sunburst Smurf, but if it's anything like Hulk, the dial and bezel colors may not match.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the current Smurf dial is also made of ceramic to create the exact same color as the bezel? In any case the glossy blue dial is a beauty and I'm not selling mine.

[direwolf]

Thank you for that information. Makes sense.

[Galaga167]

This wouldnt be too shabby in SS either:

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[s7horton]

Originally Posted by bobabreath

People are clamoring for a sunburst Smurf, but if it's anything like Hulk, the dial and bezel colors may not match.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the current Smurf dial is also made of ceramic to create the exact same color as the bezel? In any case the glossy blue dial is a beauty and I'm not selling mine.

I don’t believe this is correct. I think the blue dial is a lacquered dial like the SS black dial sub is.


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[jrs146]

Originally Posted by Tangier11

I really hope they make it a sunburst dial and alter the bezel color a bit. Looks too Tudorish for me

I agree. I was torn between the WG and the YG and eventually I picked the YG because I thought the blue was a little better colored.

[BradSomrak]

Originally Posted by Galaga167

This wouldnt be too shabby in SS either:

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There’d be a 5 year waitlist for that, easy.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Galaga167

This wouldnt be too shabby in SS either:

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I would punt my own balls for that.

[Bluside]

Originally Posted by Galaga167

This wouldnt be too shabby in SS either:

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Wow, that would be fantastic.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Forgive my ignorance, but why is blue so much worse than black on a bezel for diving purposes? I realize that as you go deeper some colors are harder to see than others.

Black dials bezels bold white hands etc are better underwater as no luminescence would glow underwater on any watch unless you charged it with a very strong light mainly because once you past 10m only the blue spectrum light exists.And if you had a light source with you underwater then there would be no need for luminescence as your light source you were carrying while underwater would illuminate the dial. And when diving in daylight in clear water its not a problem to read any watch dial 60m below surface same for depth gauges computer and other equipment etc.And when using a dive watch like a sub you would just line up the bezel marker to wherever the minute hand was on the dial,then you could check the lapse time while underwater.But in general Rolex lume is not the best its mainly down to small hour markers and thin lume hands.The more total lume surface area the brighter the glow,less surface area not so bright glow its that simple, but lume is not needed on any watch underwater.
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[Bluside]

Originally Posted by padi56

Black dials bezels bold white hands etc are better underwater as no luminescence would glow underwater on any watch unless you charged it with a very strong light mainly because once you past 10m only the blue spectrum light exists.And if you had a light source with you underwater then there would be no need for luminescence as your light source you were carrying while underwater would illuminate the dial. And when diving in daylight in clear water its not a problem to read any watch dial 60m below surface same for depth gauges computer and other equipment etc.And when using a dive watch like a sub you would just line up the bezel marker to wherever the minute hand was on the dial,then you could check the lapse time while underwater.But in general Rolex lume is not the best its mainly down to small hour markers and thin lume hands.The more total lume surface area the brighter the glow,less surface area not so bright glow its that simple, but lume is not needed on any watch underwater.
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Great post, Peter. Thanks.

[LuminousMaximus]

Originally Posted by BCCA

With 2020 right around the corner, what are some thoughts on Rolex discontinuing the Smurf in white metal and making it an all steel model and maybe then making the Hulk a yellow gold timepiece only?

Welcome to the forum! This is a pretty good topic for a newbie.

You're going to fit in just fine.

[glamorama]

If you want a diver-style Rolex with blue dial in SS there’s already YM. Doubt Rolex would release a smurf in SS but awesome if they did. Maybe a BB58 in blue is more realistic.

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by Galaga167

This wouldnt be too shabby in SS either:

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That would be simply amazing.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by Galaga167

Precious metal divers were never intended for diving. It’s just about the aesthetic and the extreme wank that owning a Rolex has become.

Why not? They have all the water resistance capabilities as the SS models.

[Galaga167]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Why not? They have all the water resistance capabilities as the SS models.

I don’t know, maybe I wouldn’t want to scratch a $20k plus watch. Or is it all relative because you have to be mega rich to own a Rolex?

[Maxy]

Blue Submariner in White Gold was good when it was released but they went ahead and released more better green in SS and that killed the interest in Blue Sub.

If it was even ground - I think Rolex would release Sub in SS in Black and Blue dials and Green in WG. This makes more sense. Blue is kinda average color in watches (every brand has one) whereas Green is rarer and looks precious metal worthy. Even now Green Sub is more beautiful than Blue Sub!

[101031-28]

I would love a YG green dial Sub!