Question for 5711a owners

[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by cascavel

Now that the waiting has begun, any idea how long the waiting is expected to be? Was the wait for the blue the same as the wait for the white?
Just curious because when I ordered an Aquanaut two years ago the wait for the 5167a was two years but for the 5167/1a was only one year. Guess which I ordered?

No specifics given for wait time. It’s been my experience that estimated delivery dates are not very accurate anyway. I would assume the wait is longer for the blue due to higher demand.

[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

But Bill you tried it with condoms on... it feels and looks different bare back.

#justsaying

Both had protective wrap, so it was a level playing field. Honestly just happy to get it any way I can nowadays.

[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Did you try these on at an AD or a gray?

47th St in NYC is about as grey as you can get. I was grateful for a very accommodating grey dealer to allow me to try on his goods.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBill

47th St in NYC is about as grey as you can get. I was grateful for a very accommodating grey dealer to allow me to try on his goods.

Very nice that you could try both on at once. They are unicorns here in our parts.

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[JorgeCCW]

Blue dials are nice


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[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Blue dials are nice


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I agree. That VC is a beauty! I love blue dials as evidenced by my FPJ CB and Daytona 116509. But IMHO the grey-blue of the 5711a, while compelling, falls short of the overall aesthetic of the white dial. I wish Patek would use the same blue on the base 5711a that they used on the anniversary edition.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Blue dials are nice


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Great watch. The problem with that watch is that it’s big and lots of plain empty blue space... at least for me

The chrono on the other hand on strap... love it

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBill

I agree. That VC is a beauty! I love blue dials as evidenced by my FPJ CB and Daytona 116509. But IMHO the grey-blue of the 5711a, while compelling, falls short of the overall aesthetic of the white dial. I wish Patek would use the same blue on the base 5711a that they used on the anniversary edition.

VC overseas is a good alternative, the blue dial is very intense plus the ability to change straps with ease is something VC is ahead of the heard on this kind of watches. Not to mention that the bezel is less of a scratch magnet than Nautilus. So if you buy to keep and the money expended is not a concern, I would probably go with this.

[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Great watch. The problem with that watch is that it’s big and lots of plain empty blue space... at least for me

Needs a Tiffany stamp?

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBill

Needs a Tiffany stamp?

Meh

[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

VC overseas is a good alternative, the blue dial is very intense plus the ability to change straps with ease is something VC is ahead of the heard on this kind of watches. Not to mention that the bezel is less of a scratch magnet than Nautilus. So if you buy to keep and the money expended is not a concern, I would probably go with this.

Thanks, Jorge! I really like the VC Overseas and already have my eye on another model. But that’s for another time perhaps a year or more from now. One piece at a time.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBill

Thanks, Jorge! I really like the VC Overseas and already have my eye on another model. But that’s for another time perhaps a year or more from now. One piece at a time.

Beautiful watch , I can easily advise anyone to get it ... a steal on my book.
But even though I am saying all this about this VC, is a watch personally couldn't buy because historically is hard for me to commit to timepieces , so people like me have to stay in magic formula of Rolex, AP and Patek. I think I have now watches that I can commit to keep , if after a year I am still with the same watches then I think i had earned the right to consider VC overseas.

[soundserious]

The problem with the Overseas line is that they reboot it every few years. There is no continuity. It’s a “steal” for a reason.

[JorgeCCW]

Well rebooting is not necessarily a bad thing , VC has improved the watch with this new system of strap changing , solid bracelet awesome clasp.
Patek keeps the Nautilus with its crappy clasp and their great improvement is being able to hack seconds, really ?
I wish patek could reboot the nautilus a little bit


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[soundserious]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Well rebooting is not necessarily a bad thing , VC has improved the watch with this new system of strap changing , solid bracelet awesome clasp.
Patek keeps the Nautilus with its crappy clasp and their great improvement is being able to hack seconds, really ?
I wish patek could reboot the nautilus a little bit


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Good points. I guess time will tell how successful this line will be for VC.

I think a Nautilus reboot is overdue as well. I’ve said for years they need to discontinue the 5711 in steel altogether.

[GeraldGentaFan]

Congratulations with your decision. No wrong choice. I own both and love both. The white is definitely a more special white than on the 15202 white.

If after some years you want to change the look, Patek can change the dial to blue during a service. But you cannot keep the old dial...

[Busyboy]

Heard white will be discontinued 2020. Finding out soon I guess

[liljctl]

They are going to overhaul the Calatrava line. I think they might leave the 5711 alone. Then again, what do I know!

[CastorKrieg]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Well rebooting is not necessarily a bad thing , VC has improved the watch with this new system of strap changing , solid bracelet awesome clasp.
Patek keeps the Nautilus with its crappy clasp and their great improvement is being able to hack seconds, really ?
I wish patek could reboot the nautilus a little bit


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I respect VC a lot as a brand, and yet when it came to pull the trigger I went for PP. I understand their need to price their watches for parity, but if people have access to both PP and VC SS watches I think the majority will got PP each time. If you don't have an ability to buy a PP this is kinda like settling for the second best.

[sirish19]

If I were going 5711, I would get the white dial and then go blue in 5712 and AP 15202 Jumbo. Then you’d be set.


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[BigAppleBill]

So it seems the 5711 white dial is being discontinued. That didn’t take long.

Either Thierry Stern has it in for me or I have rotten timing. Since Mr. Stern has no idea who I am, I’ll just assume the latter. That’s disappointing. Oh well. It’s only a watch. Congrats to those who own one. On to the next I suppose.

Maybe a 5711r...

[cascavel]

As someone who followed and participated in your post, I feel your pain. On the other hand, this does make your decision easier.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBill

So it seems the 5711 white dial is being discontinued. That didn’t take long.

Either Thierry Stern has it in for me or I have rotten timing. Since Mr. Stern has no idea who I am, I’ll just assume the latter. That’s disappointing. Oh well. It’s only a watch. Congrats to those who own one. On to the next I suppose.

Maybe a 5711r...

Price of poker just went up.

[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by subtona

Price of poker just went up.

Too right. I think I’m going to try to get on the list for the 5711r. I made the mistake of trying on Ninjaboy’s 5711r the other day and perhaps I was aiming too low with the 5711a all along. It will require selling a couple pieces that I don’t wear now anyway. It’s just a matter of how realistic my chances are for the RG.

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBill

Too right. I think I’m going to try to get on the list for the 5711r. I made the mistake of trying on Ninjaboy’s 5711r the other day and perhaps I was aiming too low with the 5711a all along. It will require selling a couple pieces that I don’t wear now anyway. It’s just a matter of how realistic my chances are for the RG.

Yeah 5711/1R seems logical since you don't like the 5711 blue anyway. If you are eligible for both 5711/1A, you should be eligible for the 1R. The 1As are harder to get from ADs.

[ragsk]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBill

Too right. I think I’m going to try to get on the list for the 5711r. I made the mistake of trying on Ninjaboy’s 5711r the other day and perhaps I was aiming too low with the 5711a all along. It will require selling a couple pieces that I don’t wear now anyway. It’s just a matter of how realistic my chances are for the RG.

Makes sense. The 5711 Rose is a gorgeous watch and a notch up in the prestige stakes. Attracts a lot more attention than the White or the Blue though. One time I had a guy in the London tube ask me about it - he just saw it on my wrist and came and sat next to me. Made me a little bit on edge but he didn’t mean any ill just was genuinely interested. Also had the same wearing it in Marrakesh.

No one from the general public is interested in a white steel watch!

[liljctl]

Originally Posted by liljctl

They are going to overhaul the Calatrava line. I think they might leave the 5711 alone. Then again, what do I know!

Well, I was very wrong.

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[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by liljctl

Well, I was very wrong.

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You were but I thought u were just kidding...


Lol

[MikeMike]

Originally Posted by soundserious

Good points. I guess time will tell how successful this line will be for VC.

I think a Nautilus reboot is overdue as well. I’ve said for years they need to discontinue the 5711 in steel altogether.

The Overseas line has been incredibly successful for VC after a slow start. VC and Richemont are incredibly happy. Discounts are a thing of the past for the three-hander, and generally there is a few months wait to get the watch.