Should I be mad about this?

[brandrea]

OP, have you decided what you’re doing with this?

[samson66]

I'd ask for a credit towards whatever RSC will charge to fix it. If it's a piece you really want keep it. You will probably do similar damage just from wearing it. But the seller should make it right.

[Chester01]

This NOS business gets thrown around all the time because people know there is a premium on it. That said, looks fairly good. You could negotiate for a better price, if everything else looks good as it is very difficult to see the mark.

[RichM]

That would be unacceptable to me being sold as NOS.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by GMT Aviator

NOS watches have often been subjected to a lot of handling and 'trying-on' over time, and also get passed often from one dealer to the next until they find a home.

For these reasons above I think it should assumed there may be evidence of some wear on the watch.

In your case here, looking at the effected area and weighing that against the unlikely chance you will come across another NOS if this reference has been discontinued, then I'd just strap it on and enjoy.

FWIW I just bought a four year old NOS Fluted Silver Dial DJ2. Had been after one for a while and know its unlikely I will find another. When it arrived, I discovered it was fitted with an error cyclops. (2016 being the model year this was happening across a wide range of Rolex references). There was also evidence of some very small micro hairline scratches to the fluted bezel, but you really needed a magnifier to see them properly, likely caused by periodic wiping of the watch with a polishing cloth.

Was I a little disappointed by this when I discovered it? Yeah, sure. Did it make me want to send it back? No.

I kept the watch and actually its at RSC now under the last few months of its warranty period having a correct cyclops fitted.

In your case, a little ding like that will be easily removed come service time.

I'd keep your watch. A few days on the wrist and you won't even be bothered by it.

If it were a current new reference being bought from an AD they'd in all probability just send it to RSC to polish it out and apologise for the inconvenience.

Have to agree 100%.

Originally Posted by Andad

It has some damage so it’s your call.

Agree but while most pieces categorised as new old stock watches by their sellers most have never been worn for any significant period of time, they may still have become slightly damaged at some point in storage or shipment. And if watch was fully stickered before sold even tiny dings would be very hard to see by seller until removed by prospective owner.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by GMT Aviator

NOS watches have often been subjected to a lot of handling and 'trying-on' over time, and also get passed often from one dealer to the next until they find a home.

For these reasons above I think it should assumed there may be evidence of some wear on the watch.

In your case here, looking at the effected area and weighing that against the unlikely chance you will come across another NOS if this reference has been discontinued, then I'd just strap it on and enjoy.

FWIW I just bought a four year old NOS Fluted Silver Dial DJ2. Had been after one for a while and know its unlikely I will find another. When it arrived, I discovered it was fitted with an error cyclops. (2016 being the model year this was happening across a wide range of Rolex references). There was also evidence of some very small micro hairline scratches to the fluted bezel, but you really needed a magnifier to see them properly, likely caused by periodic wiping of the watch with a polishing cloth.

Was I a little disappointed by this when I discovered it? Yeah, sure. Did it make me want to send it back? No.

I kept the watch and actually its at RSC now under the last few months of its warranty period having a correct cyclops fitted.

In your case, a little ding like that will be easily removed come service time.

I'd keep your watch. A few days on the wrist and you won't even be bothered by it.

If it were a current new reference being bought from an AD they'd in all probability just send it to RSC to polish it out and apologise for the inconvenience.

I agree with what your saying Mike, and I’d be keeping it too.

I would only suggest that the seller disclose the damage prior to selling so that the buyer could make an informed decision.

[DonRickles]

I find myself attempting to interpret, what's "NOT" being said, on any advertised item for sale.....My skills have grown over the years, to be able find the hidden meanings in many sellers descriptions or lack of......

[jimcameron]

Has the dealer had the watch for the 10 years, or is the dealer relying on some claim from whomever it was sourced? My guess is that it has been owned and worn and the NOS claim is based solely on the stickers. You did not see this on photos provided prior to purchase?

[Jack T]

I’m shocked at how many posters are willing to give the seller a pass on what is, quite apparently, a willful and deceptive sales practice, all in the name of having an otherwise difficult to obtain Rolex watch.

[watchwatcher]

No, I don't think you should be 'mad,' but...

The business practices of the seller are what's in play here. Did he know about that ding and try to pass it off as NOS? Or, did he somehow not know? Wow-that's scary. TBH, either way his professionalism is drawn into question.

Keep us posted and good luck.

[jrs146]

Depending on how much you paid I’d likely return. My guess is you paid a large premium for NOS which in my opinion should be 100% mint.


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[garyk]

I turned one down this past June that had a similar ding in a similar spot. It was in fact pre owned but I would not have liked it at all. I get the point about magnification but right on a sharp edge is not exactly invisible...

[Mr. Drunmond]

A couple of factors need to be known before I can realistically answer how i would react.

1. Is this going to be a daily driver or safe queen.
2. How hard is this watch to get.
3. The delta of the price of NOS vs good/excellent condition used.
4. After talking to the seller, how confident am i that they didn't knowingly try to pass off a used watch as new.

If a daily driver on a hard to get watch with not much of premium where i think the seller made an honest mistake, i wouldn't worry too much about it. Maybe just ask for a discount to get it more in line with used.

However, if it going to be safe queen and the delta was several thousands of dollars and (especially if) i think the seller knowingly didn't act in good faith, that's a much different Mr. Drunmond they would see.

[l_chissle]

Because it's on the edge, it can never be fixed. It'll get rounded if it gets polished, so I'd return that.

[ronricks]

Too many people wear watches with the stickers on them and then years later try to pass them off as "New Old Stock". That watch was obviously worn to get those dings.

[Sublovin]

I think new old stock is open to interpretation. It can certainly mean that it has obviously been in inventory for a long time, and tried on and handled, but never sold or registered to an owner. That being said, a NOS watch can be damaged but still technically NOS.
I think people often confuse NOS with untouched “mint” condition.

[commission]

those are dents or gouges unfortunately.

[Calatrava r]

Its not in NOS condition. But the ding is small also. I agree with the post if used take it but as NOS you would need an adjustment on the price or return it.

[GSDLover]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

I think new old stock is open to interpretation. It can certainly mean that it has obviously been in inventory for a long time, and tried on and handled, but never sold or registered to an owner. That being said, a NOS watch can be damaged but still technically NOS.
I think people often confuse NOS with untouched “mint” condition.

I would interpret new as better than mint. Mint insinuates used but not damaged.

[Sublovin]

Originally Posted by GSDLover

I would interpret new as better than mint. Mint insinuates used but not damaged.

New insinuates never sold. It’s not a description of condition. Anyone in the watch Hobby understands that watches sit in showcases on display and are handled regularly

[TswaneNguni]

People handle your watch ,they ding it .
Whether that's AD or secondary market .

I have seen new watches at ADs with marks ,Rolex and other brands .

That's why I prefer it arriving fresh in the coffin .

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Tools

Are you planning on wearing it, or putting it on a satin pillow?

You say that it's a watch that you have been looking/yearning for, so will you run across this same deal again?

I was thinking the same. It’s hard to see and maybe wasn’t seen by the seller. I’d do whatever is in your weighed self interest.

[S’portEye]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree 100%.



Agree but while most pieces categorised as new old stock watches by their sellers most have never been worn for any significant period of time, they may still have become slightly damaged at some point in storage or shipment. And if watch was fully stickered before sold even tiny dings would be very hard to see by seller until removed by prospective owner.

I don’t know man. That ding is fairly easy to see. I’d be disappointed. Maybe not a deal breaker, but disappointed.

[GSDLover]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

New insinuates never sold. It’s not a description of condition. Anyone in the watch Hobby understands that watches sit in showcases on display and are handled regularly

I don't agree. I would never advertise a watch as new that was tried on and in ANY way marred.
But I guess this is semantics and the beauty of language and it's interpretations.
But I think the vast majority of posters agree that this watch advertised as NOS with this damage is incorrect.

[joli160]

That’s not new as in NOS, the sticker also has been re-applied.
If I paid a stiff premium I would return it

[Sublovin]

Originally Posted by GSDLover

I don't agree. I would never advertise a watch as new that was tried on and in ANY way marred.
But I guess this is semantics and the beauty of language and it's interpretations.
But I think the vast majority of posters agree that this watch advertised as NOS with this damage is incorrect.

You don’t have to agree, but that’s the reality. The vast majority of NOS watches have been displayed and handled. I’m not for a second telling the OP they should be happy with it, I’m just stating that nobody should ever accept a description of NOS as meaning mint condition with no reason to inspect the watch.