Father in Law’s Rolex - Genuine or Fake?

[linesiders]

Dangit, People? This is the vintage forum, there are numerous tells that it is at least mostly legit. From the bezel, to the crown to the case shape.

Originally Posted by cht

Looks gen to me. Has a replaced aftermarket dial which is common with these watches.

I see an old beat up genuine datejust with the original engine turned bezel, original crown, original 62510 bracelet with some stretch, and a typical crappy aftermarket dial.
Not sure why everyone is dismissing it so quickly. Shrugs.

^^^ This

Originally Posted by interestedwatcher

If you can get the bracelet off and a photo between the lugs of the serial or model number it would answer the question with some level of surety. If you YouTube bracelet removal a bunch of videos will come up.

The engine turned bezel to my knowledge has never been faked in any decent way - and a bunch of other stuff is telling me that the watch is likely gen - but the aftermarket dial can mean something crazy has gone on - like a water damaged movement being replaced with an eta or something. So - step one get us some shots of the engravings on the case, step two see a watch maker to pop the back off and show us hopefully a 1570.

This ^ ^ ^

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by linesiders

Dangit, People? This is the vintage forum

This thread was in the Watchout section all through the first page, till I rescued it and moved it here

[springer]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Interesting how many ‘experts’ screamed fake at first! OP parts for these watches are easily sourced and not overly expensive. Hatton Garden is a good place to start.

I don't believe those screamin' fake were "experts" at all. I don't recall seeing most of them posting resourceful or helpful information in the past.

[Styles Bitchley]

It’s interesting how many of the Datejusts from this era end up being passed off as fakes. I remember someone posting one here that he picked up at a pawn shop with the guy behind the desk insisting it was a “fake Rolex.”

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by cht

Looks gen to me. Has a replaced aftermarket dial which is common with these watches.

I see an old beat up genuine datejust with the original engine turned bezel, original crown, original 62510 bracelet with some stretch, and a typical crappy aftermarket dial.
Not sure why everyone is dismissing it so quickly. Shrugs.

I agree, have never seen, a fake engine turned bezel Datejust. Case just has that vintage wear look.

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

This thread was in the Watchout section all through the first page, till I rescued it and moved it here

AHAH!!! That makes more sense ; )

[Andad]

All looks positive so far but a pix of the movement would still be good to see.

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

This thread was in the Watchout section all through the first page, till I rescued it and moved it here

Great catch Adam, aka detective Sherolex Holmes !

Many Thanks for all you do.

[SeyRolex]

Thanks for the advice regarding opening it up, yes it was just a tool from eBay/China.

I spoke to him yesterday about taking it somewhere and to someone with more expertise and so on, I’m hoping he may just take it off my hands now as I don’t want to do any damage.

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by springer

I don't believe those screamin' fake were "experts" at all. I don't recall seeing most of them posting resourceful or helpful information in the past.

Absolutely

[Incroyable12]

One issue with opening up Rolex cases by yourself is that you usually have no way of testing waterproofness afterwards.

[joli160]

Nice find OP.
Have it restored and you will be amazed how it looks.

[emersm]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Interesting how many ‘experts’ screamed fake at first!

Was thinking the same thing

[Nickn]

Missed the lug photos!

[4rnold]

Originally Posted by Lesnerelli23

I would take it somewhere to have it looked at.

Besides the dial, I’m not seeing what everyone else seems to think is so obvious…

Some parts look spot on to me


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Untill this post I felt like a complete idiot

[Yachtbuoy]

Originally Posted by 77T

I guess you can tell from the replies thus far, it doesn’t sit right with others too.

No, it’s not a real Rolex. We don’t really go into more detail than that.


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Yeesh, never seen a vintage Rolex I guess.

[interestedwatcher]

Originally Posted by 4rnold

Untill this post I felt like a complete idiot

I was questioning everything I thought I knew haha

[sski]

ok, guilty as charged for making a bad call! sincere apologies to the op.

[Singhalager]

from first photo clearly real rolex. If you have doubts dont comment because just as in this case, you might be wrong.

[cht]

Originally Posted by rambo99

lol.

Originally Posted by dseig001

This is a joke, right?

Originally Posted by Tim Plains

He should have left that in the car.

Originally Posted by Harry-57

Removing that from the car would have doubled the value of the car.

This year we seem to have fast forwarded from Boxing Day to April 1st.

Originally Posted by 77T

I guess you can tell from the replies thus far, it doesn’t sit right with others too.

No, it’s not a real Rolex. We don’t really go into more detail than that.


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Originally Posted by Number3

Originally Posted by Harry-57

We don't go into details as mentioned above. That way, the thread doesn't turn into a coaching session on how to improve a fake. Although in this instance the fake could probably be improved by hitting it with a lump hammer.

Any local watchmaker should be able to give your father a proper appraisal.

Funny how fast all you guys disappear and tuck your tails between your legs.

I think all you guys should have your privileges removed to comment in the watch out section from here on out.

Just saying...

[healer]

Vintage. It cost a fortune:)

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by healer

Vintage. It cost a fortune:)

apropos sir of....!?

[SeyRolex]

Originally Posted by sski

ok, guilty as charged for making a bad call! sincere apologies to the op.

Apology accepted. Hoping to see him again perhaps next week or two to hand it back over and encourage him to get a pro to look at it and try and open it up - not myself.