Girls Coffeeshop Talk

[Ashley]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

You girls are the best!!!

Oh JJ

[Elaine]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

You girls are the best!!!

X 10

but of course i am biased !!! wahahahahaha

[Jedi]

Lisa, Marmoleum from Forbo is cork based, with a mixture of linseed oil thrown in and a proprietary mix of other goodies. It really is a fantastic product, but in my experience with kitchens, be sure to get any oil spills off in a timely fashion, like I mean, PRONTO because the oil and oil properties tend to clash resulting in discolouration.

Like anything else that's well made, Rolex included :wink:, some degree of care is required.... Like dealing with men in kilts

[Lisa]

Originally Posted by JediSubExII

Lisa, Marmoleum from Forbo is cork based, with a mixture of linseed oil thrown in and a proprietary mix of other goodies. It really is a fantastic product, but in my experience with kitchens, be sure to get any oil spills off in a timely fashion, like I mean, PRONTO because the oil and oil properties tend to clash resulting in discolouration.

Like anything else that's well made, Rolex included :wink:, some degree of care is required.... Like dealing with men in kilts

Thanks for the tip! I had heard you don't want a lot of water standing on it, but didn't know about oil. Here's another question about it that the installer didn't know how to answer - what is recommended as a top coat or sealer on Marmoleum? Nothing at all? Wax?

[Lisa]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

With no pun intended on Willie, I hope!!

Willie

[Jedi]

Nothing at all is my preference, and I'm about to install about 7000ft2 of the stuff for a friend's office building in 7 floors of high traffic corridors. If you really must, a coat or 2 of Johnson Floor Wax should do it, but in my opinion, it just adds an un-natural sheen to the floor that shouldn't be there on a lino product. I'm a bit of a stickler for the material expressing itself the way it is... how it just is.... you know, original...

...Especially when you've got a 30s style kitchen... might be a bit like putting a NATO strap on a Rolex Cellini or something else drastic... you get the picture... I'll quite rambling now...

... maybe time to start a Lee's Home Renovation Help Center thread

...might even be able to help JJ with his house problems!! I did some work in Christchurch once, the Art Gallery as a matter of fact... interesting project and a very cohesive project team, Kiwi guys are good and coming from a lifelong Aussie rules supporter, that's a big call

How did I get from lino to football??

[Carolina]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

With you lovely ladies, I've stopped thinking.....I KNOW!!

[Rockrolex]

OK, Lisa and Myrena, I have a question for you. Why do you prefer hard floors over carpeting? Especially in the bedroom. Personally, I like to step onto carpeting in my bare feet instead of a hard (and colder) material like cork, wood, etc.

Also, carpeting is more sound absorbing than wood or cork, so your carpeted rooms will tend to be quieter. Again my preference.

[Carolina]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

OK, Lisa and Myrena, I have a question for you. Why do you prefer hard floors over carpeting? Especially in the bedroom. Personally, I like to step onto carpeting in my bare feet instead of a hard (and colder) material like cork, wood, etc.

Also, carpeting is more sound absorbing than wood or cork, so your carpeted rooms will tend to be quieter. Again my preference.

I'm not L or M, but I'm in the hard floor camp. I prefer them for looks, versatility, and cleanliness. I love the look esp. of hardwood floors, I can decorate them at will with an area rug or two, and I when I clean them, I know they're clean. Ever remove a wall to wall carpet?? Yuck!!

[away36]

Originally Posted by Carolina

I'm not L or M, but I'm in the hard floor camp. I prefer them for looks, versatility, and cleanliness. I love the look esp. of hardwood floors, I can decorate them at will with an area rug or two, and I when I clean them, I know they're clean. Ever remove a wall to wall carpet?? Yuck!!

I'm with you Carolina! Looks good, much easier to keep clean and I especially agree about the area rugs.

LOVE the smell of Murphy's Oil Soap, too!

[Alcan]

Originally Posted by away36

I'm with you Carolina! Looks good, much easier to keep clean and I especially agree about the area rugs.

Your avatar shows that.

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by Carolina

I'm not L or M, but I'm in the hard floor camp. I prefer them for looks, versatility, and cleanliness. I love the look esp. of hardwood floors, I can decorate them at will with an area rug or two, and I when I clean them, I know they're clean. Ever remove a wall to wall carpet?? Yuck!!

I certainly didn't mean to exclude you from the discussion, Carolina.

I understand what you're saying about hardwood floors. They can be beautiful with nice area rugs.

But whoever removes wall-to-wall carpeting except when it's time to replace it? A good vacuum can get out most of the dirt. Every few years we have them professionally cleaned. They look good as new. And as I said, I think their warmth and sound deadening ability, in the bedroom especially, is preferable to hard material.

And especially why cork in the bedroom? That's what I don't quite understand. Do you put anything on top of the cork? Or just leave it bare?

[away36]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

They look good as new. And as I said, I think their warmth and sound deadening ability, in the bedroom especially, is preferable to hard material.

We have carpeting throughout our family room downstairs, as well as the hallway and Al's den which are all on the same level. Makes for a nice "cozy" feeling for watching tv, playing on the computer or building plastic block towers with small grandchildren. The upstairs has a more "formal" feel with the hardwood floors and area rugs. We kinda have the best of both worlds.

[Carolina]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

I certainly didn't mean to exclude you from the discussion, Carolina.

I understand what you're saying about hardwood floors. They can be beautiful with nice area rugs.

But whoever removes wall-to-wall carpeting except when it's time to replace it? A good vacuum can get out most of the dirt. Every few years we have them professionally cleaned. They look good as new. And as I said, I think their warmth and sound deadening ability, in the bedroom especially, is preferable to hard material.

And especially why cork in the bedroom? That's what I don't quite understand. Do you put anything on top of the cork? Or just leave it bare?

You know, I'm not sure about cork! It seems like a cross between the two. It's rather hard, but I imagine it absorbs sounds more like a carpet, and is more forgiving on the feet. I actually didn't know it could be used as flooring until Mireyna posted. Definitely a nice, green product.

[Lisa]

I'm late in the game.... I've had homes with wall to wall carpet, and homes (two of them, now) with all wood floors. I love old houses and wood floors are integral to them, to that's my first attraction to wood. Then, it looks pretty, and rugs are pretty and fun to decorate with. As far as cleanliness, I just couldn't keep carpeting very clean. Especially with kids. I find rugs easier to vacuum for some reason.

There are advantages to carpet - it is warmer and softer and quieter. I think if I were a better housekeeper, and lived in a new house, I wouldn't be particulary opposed to carpet.

[abigsecret]

I'm just not used to having carpet in the house where I grew up, so I guess it's just a "habit" thing. I don't like the amount of dust it brings to the rest of the house, and I don't like the look in the high-traffic area's how you get that darker "path".
Cork is pretty soft to walk on, it "gives" a little, and it is sound reducing, much quiter that wood, plus it never feels cold to the touch.
I also like the look of it much better, and it is way easier to clean, like the other ladies pointed out. It is coated so it doesn't absorb any spills.
I love to decorate spaces with rugs, but a rug on top off a carpet looks dumb to me....
That kinda sums it up for me...

[Jedi]

For what it's worth, this is the latest (I'm quoting sources like ArchReview, RAIA Guidlines and Greenstar (Australian governing body) literature) on carpet vs hard flooring...

Carpet is warm and fuzzy, but harbours dirt and bacteria for the longest time over something like say, timber or marble or indeed anti-allergenic/bacterial cork based lino. Cork itself is too porous and will behave like carpet. Imagine all the microfibers/follicles. With an area rug, you can take it out, sun it and beat the living crap out of it and then send it off for a steam clean, and get it back after it's dried.

With installed carpet, sometimes called a 'permanent' installation, even if you steam clean every couple of years, unless you ventilate, the dampness will remain, and if you turn up the heater, you're creating a mini-greenhouse environment where the nasties will grow.

Having said that, modern carpets do come with various anti-nasty treatments, but due caution is still advised.

Also re: acoustics... overall sound deadening performance is as much a function of furniture as well as floor covering. With the amount of furniture in a room such as bed, linen, chair, wardrobe and typically lined ceiling (plaster or similar) will do the bulk of the sound deadening. Carpet is good for preventing footfalls and uh... vibrations and thuds from being heard below, and of course, dropped objects.

My bedroom consists of teak flooring, a couple of rugs, plaster ceiling, king size bed, camphor wood trunk where my Rolex lie on top of or in, a chaise lounge and that's it. Pretty quiet in there.

[Carolina]

Originally Posted by abigsecret

I'm just not used to having carpet in the house where I grew up, so I guess it's just a "habit" thing. I don't like the amount of dust it brings to the rest of the house, and I don't like the look in the high-traffic area's how you get that darker "path".
Cork is pretty soft to walk on, it "gives" a little, and it is sound reducing, much quiter that wood, plus it never feels cold to the touch.
I also like the look of it much better, and it is way easier to clean, like the other ladies pointed out. It is coated so it doesn't absorb any spills.
I love to decorate spaces with rugs, but a rug on top off a carpet looks dumb to me....
That kinda sums it up for me...

Re: cork floors - all I could picture was the stuff on bulletin boards! It sounds neat, but how does it wear?

[Lisa]

Originally Posted by Carolina

Re: cork floors - all I could picture was the stuff on bulletin boards! It sounds neat, but how does it wear?

Might try a google search. I know it's harder and more resilient than the bulletin board stuff, and I think it's tried and true and been around a while. Don't know much about it because I'd always had my heart set on linoleum.

[Carolina]

Originally Posted by Lisa

Might try a google search. I know it's harder and more resilient than the bulletin board stuff, and I think it's tried and true and been around a while. Don't know much about it because I'd always had my heart set on linoleum.

I did google the brand of linoleum you have in your kitchen, because it sounded so interesting. I like it! I'll bet it looks perfectly at home in your house.

Up until now, I had always thought of linoleum as the cheesy, vinyl stuff from the 70's!

[abigsecret]

http://www.corkfloor.com/benefits.html

On this website you can read what the benefits of cork is....
Pretty interesting stuff!

[Lisa]

Ah,yes - poor, maligned linoleum. given an especially bad name because it had erroneously been tossed into the same category as vinyl. I have the book by Jane Powell, aptly titled "Linoleum." It's a fun read. She also authored a book on bungalow bathrooms, I think.

[Carolina]

Hey girls, it's getting way too quiet here in the coffeeshop!!

[Elaine]

Hi Carolina

i second that ha ha

i was around but didnt add anything to the discussion on the furniture stuff as i have not done any furniture shopping in my life !!!!!!

[Lisa]

I'm here, guys. Hi and good morning. I have an unhappy baby on my lap, who I'm afraid took in too much table food last night and ended up with an upset tummy. We both paid for that. No more roast beef for a while! Bad mama.

I promise you guys, when/if we can find the digital camera (don't know where it ended up after the move!) I will take pix of my linoleum floor, and give you guys a photo tour of our house. I'd like to have our new living room furniture delivered, too - we found an entertainment center with doors that close. Whew! Its style will blend nicely with the old stuff, I think.

Elaine, how is your friend? What's going on with her jerk "boyfriend?"

[Elaine]

Hi Lisa ..... take care of the Babe okie ......

lots of drama here

well .....

that night he dumped her ....... right when she was injured (major jerk !!!!!!!)

well, other stuff happened that is too much info to share here and she lost it .....

she emailed his boss and spilling the beans on a lot of stuff which he has told her in confidence.

the boss answered the email saying he doesnt believe the email

but the next day, the jerk (bf) emailed her telling her that he is now in trouble and forbidden by the boss to email and call her.

after a few days she cooled down and apologise for doing that.
i know what she has been through so i wont blame her


he told her that he dont blame her too.

but she has cooled down and is more or less back to normal now.

but she is still sending him emails apologising and asking if he will forgive her and if there is a chance they can start fresh ....
he said he will email her in a few days once he is able to get to a computer away from work (he is not able to be at a personal computer now)

haizzzzzzzzzzzz

[Lisa]

Oh, geez. I think those two need to be far apart from one another. Permanently!

[Elaine]

haizzzzzzz

is love blind ?

[Elaine]

i really wonder .....

who did who wrong in that relationship ?

he wronged her by dumping her when she is injured ?

she wronged him by betraying his secrets ?

too many things had happen between them that i cant even start to think we did who wrong .......

[Lisa]

That's what it's starting to sound like to me - too many complications. I wish them both well... hope they can both learn and find some kind of peaceful resolution.