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Old 26 April 2010, 06:56 PM   #91
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I don´t get it….what´s so hard to believe


An AD wants to do something special for their 40th anniversary. They ask if Rolex can and will supply them with 40 engraved Daytonas...Rolex acknowledge their request...........sales are down + 30% world wide and I´m sure Rolex has some kind of surplus at the moment….. stranger things has happened in the watch business………just my HO
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Old 26 April 2010, 06:59 PM   #92
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For some it might be hard to believe, others not....I am somewhere in the middle....to see a picture of that many together would be spectacular don't you think?...also I would love to see the engraving
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Old 26 April 2010, 11:29 PM   #93
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If it's an AD, the number will be on the Rolex website. I wouldnt trust any other numbers or websites. If it's not listed, its not an AD.
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Old 27 April 2010, 01:28 AM   #94
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I dont see what the big deal about the SS Daytona is. My dealer (Alvin Goldfarb, Bellevue WA) has SS Daytonas in white, black, and some other funky looking dial version I dont know what to call. They have a white gold and yellow gold one also.

They arent marking them up at all either. Just MSRP. And no one is buying them. Ive seen them there for as long as I can remember. Unless maybe they restock immediately once one is sold....but the point is they arent hard to come across so I dont know why people make such a big deal out of it.
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Old 27 April 2010, 01:30 AM   #95
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I dont see what the big deal about the SS Daytona is. My dealer (Alvin Goldfarb, Bellevue WA) has SS Daytonas in white, black, and some other funky looking dial version I dont know what to call. They have a white gold and yellow gold one also.

They arent marking them up at all either. Just MSRP. And no one is buying them. Ive seen them there for as long as I can remember. Unless maybe they restock immediately once one is sold....but the point is they arent hard to come across so I dont know why people make such a big deal out of it.
No-one is buying SS Daytonas at your AD?
Something is wrong then!!!

And you say "other funky looking dial"....SS only come in black and white, so I think you are confusing SS Daytona with White Gold/TT
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Old 27 April 2010, 01:38 AM   #96
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I dont see what the big deal about the SS Daytona
The big deal is, a new SS Daytona is nearly impossible to find. Like one poster said, there's a waiting list to get one. With that, you can understand the skepticism of an AD in Mexico getting 40 of them.
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Old 27 April 2010, 01:48 AM   #97
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agree, i can see 10 but 40... wow
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Old 27 April 2010, 02:03 AM   #98
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That's quite a haul of Daytona's!
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Old 27 April 2010, 02:31 AM   #99
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The big deal is, a new SS Daytona is nearly impossible to find. Like one poster said, there's a waiting list to get one. With that, you can understand the skepticism of an AD in Mexico getting 40 of them.


If you go back just 30 days here on the for sale forum you will find nearly 20 either BNIB or like new V serial numbered SS Daytonas for sale, and another 20 for sale either M or Z serial numbered or older. That's about 40 SS Daytonas offered for sale here on TRF alone and just in the past few weeks. Based on the above, I just don't see how anyone can call any SS Daytona (BNIB or otherwise) an impossible to find watch, or even slightly hard to find?
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Old 27 April 2010, 02:42 AM   #100
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If you go back just 30 days here on the for sale forum you will find nearly 20 either BNIB or like new V serial numbered SS Daytonas for sale, and another 20 for sale either M or Z serial numbered or older. That's about 40 SS Daytonas offered for sale here on TRF alone and just in the past few weeks. Based on the above, I just don't see how anyone can call any SS Daytona (BNIB or otherwise) an impossible to find watch, or even slightly hard to find?
Brand new at an AD at list price?
Yup...almost impossible!!
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Old 27 April 2010, 03:27 AM   #101
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Here is the story : As promised I just called them : Peyrelongue Chronos tel.+525552815050 , press 2 for watches .
I spoke to a very charming lady that was willing to put me on the list as there are still some available as they are still coming in as and when .
Yes ,it is somewhere true . Peyrelongue Chronos a Rolex AD , the owner did negotiate a special favor with Rolex Mexico for their 40th birthday . They were promised 40 pieces of 116520 which they engrave on the back for the anniversary or not . At no time there have been 40 Daytona's in the shop , all these were via pre-sales for existing customers .
At the end of the day ... no big deal . I know that Chow Tai Fook get between 60 and 80 Daytona 116520 a year . But never 40 at one time !
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Old 27 April 2010, 03:32 AM   #102
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Well the OP's first message was a bit misleading...until he posted he saw 18 only, so kind of contradicting.....just saying. definitley a different picture altogether.

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Old 27 April 2010, 03:50 AM   #103
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Here is the story : As promised I just called them : Peyrelongue Chronos tel.+525552815050 , press 2 for watches .
I spoke to a very charming lady that was willing to put me on the list as there are still some available as they are still coming in as and when .
Yes ,it is somewhere true . Peyrelongue Chronos a Rolex AD , the owner did negotiate a special favor with Rolex Mexico for their 40th birthday . They were promised 40 pieces of 116520 which they engrave on the back for the anniversary or not . At no time there have been 40 Daytona's in the shop , all these were via pre-sales for existing customers .
At the end of the day ... no big deal . I know that Chow Tai Fook get between 60 and 80 Daytona 116520 a year . But never 40 at one time !
Interesting thread....I must admit that I was a bit skeptical as well (40 Daytonas at one AD at the same time). Especially given the ruffled feathers of the OP when others tried to verify or simply asked some logical questions or raised some points.

Thank you for clarifying Tristan!


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Old 27 April 2010, 03:51 AM   #104
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If you go back just 30 days here on the for sale forum you will find nearly 20 either BNIB or like new V serial numbered SS Daytonas for sale, and another 20 for sale either M or Z serial numbered or older. That's about 40 SS Daytonas offered for sale here on TRF alone and just in the past few weeks. Based on the above, I just don't see how anyone can call any SS Daytona (BNIB or otherwise) an impossible to find watch, or even slightly hard to find?
Very true, but these SS Daytona's were acquired from ADs all over the country (or world) and not through one AD.

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I was surprised to find that they received 40 (yes, forty) SS Daytona's because the shop is celebrating the 40th anniversary and it was the way Rolex said thanks for being a dealer for so long.

All SS Daytonas received have a white dial and they're selling them for $11,500 (16% VAT included) in Mexico City, as a gift with every one they're giving out a Rolex single watch winder.
Does anyone know if the $11,500 (including VAT) is MSRP or is there a premium added to the price? I don't think there was anything nefarious in the OP's post. Perhaps he was very exited to see several SS Daytona's at one time. I do share some skepticism to 40 SS Daytonas at one AD. It took me several years to acquire mine, and I'm sure others on TRF had the same experience. I realize you can go out anytime and pay a premium for one and avoid the wait.
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Old 27 April 2010, 04:34 AM   #105
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Many thanks Tristan.

Anyway, did you ask what is the maximum number of Daytona in the shop at a time? Maybe, 35 or 39?

It's strange that your story is very different from Paul's story.
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Old 27 April 2010, 04:41 AM   #106
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Old 27 April 2010, 04:45 AM   #107
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Many thanks Tristan.

Anyway, did you ask what is the maximum number of Daytona in the shop at a time? Maybe, 35 or 39?

It's strange that your story is very different from Paul's story.
I did ask if they had or ever had the 40 Daytona's in the shop , and she laughed . She made understand that they come in gradually and the people that ordered them will come and pick them up . So can only presume that they may have had a couple or even half a dozen of them at one moment but never the 40 . Look I was told this over the phone , maybe I was told a story or maybe Paul was told one . The lady seemed very well informed , professional and fairly trustworthy over the phone to me .

To me this is the end of the story . I'd love to see a picture of all those 116520 together to prove the sales lady wrong .
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Old 27 April 2010, 04:50 AM   #108
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No-one is buying SS Daytonas at your AD?
Something is wrong then!!!

And you say "other funky looking dial"....SS only come in black and white, so I think you are confusing SS Daytona with White Gold/TT
I agree. I have heard of people seeing stainless daytona's in the case, but there is no way that they last very long- if this dealer has any type of business whatsoever, or he really is asking way over MSRP when the person actually gets serious about buying. The AD I work part time for- still even in the worst of the economy had more customers waiting for them than he had watches coming in, and I know jsut on the days I am there, it never fails that someone comes in looking/asking for one.

It's just hard to believe if those are brand new at MSRP that he doesn't have a customer for them. Unless as the the above poster said, and they are the white gold versions that you are mistaking for steel.
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Old 27 April 2010, 05:08 AM   #109
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Old 27 April 2010, 05:17 AM   #110
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Can we have someone else to go that AD in mexico and varify?? would put this thing to rest...
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Old 27 April 2010, 06:31 AM   #111
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Thought I read the OP correctly....

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I went to the AD today to see what they've got, not in the market right now since it's not even a month since my last purchase, but I still went.

I was surprised to find that they received 40 (yes, forty) SS Daytona's because the shop is celebrating the 40th anniversary and it was the way Rolex said thanks for being a dealer for so long.

All SS Daytonas received have a white dial and they're selling them for $11,500 (16% VAT included) in Mexico City, as a gift with every one they're giving out a Rolex single watch winder.

Needless to say I for a moment I started to get nervous and thought about giving my credit card to the guy, fortunately I remained calm and didn't.

If anybody's looking for one and is coming to Mexico City, this is your chance...
The OP said they had received 40 (yes, forty! )....it was only after others began inquiring that the more nuanced information began to come out. That being it seems the shop receives them gradually over time....I was basing what I said on what the OP stated.

I took the statement "...received 40..." to mean that they had 40 which I was incredulous about. Looks like my hunch turned out to be correct. I'm sure this would be possible but as all have stated, it would certainly be an exceptional event. Even though they are the white dial vs. the more highly sought after black.

Thanks again Tristan for providing some clarification.


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Old 27 April 2010, 06:53 AM   #112
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Old 27 April 2010, 07:18 AM   #113
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Just caught the tail end of this thread...

SS Daytonas appear to have an interesting 'rarity' story. My AD in Maine (the only one) had TWO black face SS Daytonas sitting in the case (not in the safe) at retail with apparently no takers. Now they do have a strict policy about not selling to anyone except walk-ins (no phone or internet).

So, perhaps, there are some out there undiscovered for various reasons in more remote areas?

Anyway, can't speak to the 40 at the Mexico AD, but it seems there's no need for a waiting list for these, just some good old fashioned leg work.
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Here you go, 52815050. Shall I send you a copy of my phone bill?

I was actually sticking up for you there IRQ, saying I belived the OP; (that's you, the Official Poster). Since I lived in mexico as a young man, I was also sticking up for your country, read up a couple posts. Forget I did either one of those things. And before you go calling an established TRFer a Liar, maybe you should stick around for more then 70 posts so people will get to know you.

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Brand new at an AD at list price?
Yup...almost impossible!!

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x2, just asked about one today at an AD in Tyson's Corner, store was empty, I am in a suit, $9,000 Rolex on my wrist, nearly 100 Rolexes in the cases including WG Daytonas... for all he knew, I was ready to buy (I was killing time in between meetings from the rain and window shopping).

I looked around for a bit - as we all love to look at happy Rolexes all lined up in a case, anyway nearly every Rolex GV Milgauss, LV Sub, DSSD etc... of course one of the three people doing nothing (not counting the security guard) asks if he can help. I tell him that I am taking a look but "have really been desperate to find a SS Daytona, any chance you have one"?
Of course it's a little white lie but I just wanted to see - he smiles, shakes his head and said, "we don't get those".

So, if they are sitting in the safe, wouldn't they even say to this stranger on a rainy day, who is clearly wearing a Rolex and knows something about them based on the questions I was asking - "for $10,000 cash I have several in the back?" Again, if it's all marketing or a bluff, they are pretty courageous.

Also, it would mean that the SS Daytona is still sought after enough that they don't have to sell them to anyone except the "best" customers.

I know I am off the topic and this thread but that is why a guy like me has difficulty believing that there are 40 in one AD in Mexico City.

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PS- the black dial on the WG Daytona may be the best looking dial ever!!!
I am falling for it bad! lol
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You're absolutely right Pete, it DOES stand for Original poster! My mistake. I was so angry when I was typing.... anyway, I shouldn't get so emotional... (I thought I said I was done with this thread ).
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Man could you image 40 engraved Daytonas .......

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This picture kind of puts things in perspective. That's a lot of SS Daytonas. I am going to say unlikely. BTW, this is now my new desktop.

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Here you go, 52815050. Shall I send you a copy of my phone bill?

I was actually sticking up for you there IRQ, saying I belived the OP; (that's you, the Official Poster). Since I lived in mexico as a young man, I was also sticking up for your country, read up a couple posts. Forget I did either one of those things. And before you go calling an established TRFer a Liar, maybe you should stick around for more then 70 posts so people will get to know you.

I'm done with this.
Nicely done Paul

I caught the tail end of this as well

NICE pic of the 40 116520s : )
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there ya go folks, 40 daytona's all engraved lol
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