Are you more excited to wear your watch where you know it will be noticed?

[JohnBoy]

Nah.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by Le Chef

I just love the pseudo-psychoanalysis of why we look or do not look for peer approval of our watches. Has anyone tried this on the AP, Panerai or Patek forums? I would think there would be a great deal of mirth over this.

Please, enlighten me with the depth of your psychoanalytic knowledge base...

I'm sure my psychoanalyst supervisor and I will have a giggle or two over it.

[Le Chef]

I talked to a psychologist watch-collecting friend at Northwestern today about this post as I thought it was funny. He thought the psychoanalysis on narcissism was funny too. "Simplistic" was the word he used. Too many variables apparently. "Lacking in experience of psychoanalysis" was his final comment. It would seem a number of people here would agree, regardless of their professional qualifications, or lack of them.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by Le Chef

I talked to a psychologist watch-collecting friend at Northwestern today about this post as I thought it was funny. He thought the psychoanalysis on narcissism was funny too. "Simplistic" was the word he used. Too many variables apparently. "Lacking in experience of psychoanalysis" was his final comment. It would seem a number of people here would agree, regardless of their professional qualifications, or lack of them.

So basically, you have no experience with psychoanalysis and psychology, and a "friend" that you claim to know has made vague statements about the veracity and complexity of my statements (not to mention ad hominem attacks on my credentials based on reading one or two posts I made...)?

I call BS. Scientific research is based around isolating a few elements out of many in order to empirically test their relationships without the interference of extraneous variables. Your friend sounds like a hack, or at the least eager to please you at my expense (or perhaps eager to deny his own narcissism!). Not that my posts are purely psychoanalytically based, but feel free to tell your friend to message me and I will be happy to discuss my psychoanalytic affiliations with him personally.

My guess is that you googled the word narcissism and then psychoanalytic theory popped up... There is a lot more research out there on Narcissism and NPD than what you will find on Wikipedia.

If you could counter my arguments with anything useful, instead of ad hominem attacks, I might take you more seriously.

[Joey_V]

Nope.. I wear it cuz I think it's cool and better than most others.

Though I don't mind if my watch is noticed - just as long as it's not at a shady area.

[soxxel]

No I wear them because they make me happy. In my personal experience the only people who notice what watch you're wearing are certain sales people.

[Megalobyte]

I agree in part with DJ, one may choose a watch they feel fits with their self image, and the image they project to the world, without status or impressing people coming into play.

For example. I think of myself as someone who appreciates examples of high quality mechanical engineering, whether it be a watch, gun, car, etc. I also appreciate things that have a history. I appreciate mechanical devices that are over engineered and rugged. I appreciate things that hold value well. I appreciate classic, functional designs.

These are all qualities of my personality, and not coincidently qualities that a Rolex sport watch has. So Rolex fits very nicely into my self image, with status having little to nothing to do with it.

I wear a Vintage collection Aquatimer that nobody outside a card carrying WIS would know is a nice watch, it too fits into my self image and personality.

A diamond encrusted or solid yellow gold watch likely wouldn't, as I don't like flashy things, and generally don't like people noticing any signs of wealth, not that I'm particularly wealthy though. :) I wear a nice watch, one that's rugged, well made, with a classic design and a history, a plain WG wedding band, and that's it. Well, clothes, when outside. :)

But I think DJ was onto something. Rolex, through its marketing, has in fact created a watch that appeals to many of us on many different levels, ultimately it does seem to come down to fitting into your self image and what you see your personality being, and the image you present to the world. Your image might in fact be one which prides itself on NOT showing off, not seeking status or recognition, but, it's still what you choose to show to the world, it's what you care, or don't care about. (These are Grand Seiko owners) JK :)

Truthfully, the only time I want my watch to be noticed is when browsing at high end watch stores.

[dddrees]

Sure.

That is is when I'm wearing a new watch I just got and I visit my AD or go to GTG where people recognize these types of things. Otherwise it's a watch and hardly anyone notices what I'm wearing.

[andrew79]

not really

[Sweramic]

Originally Posted by sleddog

Nope...I like to fly under the radar!

+1

[garyfromleeds]

Originally Posted by superdog

i am going to have to call bs on some of this.

I agree that many of us here wear it simply for themselves, because they like it.

However, if people are being honest with themselves, wearing a big green or blue or super shiny watch, is not simply for themselves. Lets be real here fellas.

Fellow members would not be asking on a daily basis "which one should i get" if they were wearing it for themselves.

I will go out on a limb and say that some of the older more mature members are most probably wearing watches for themselves. However, on the flip side, i believe that many younger members are wearing them as a status symbol.

For me, i think i am probably in the middle. I love my explorer i because it truly is an "under the radar" watch. However, i will be honest with you all, when i am going to a nice event, or i want people to notice me and impress for whatever reason, i will be strapping on the wg daytona. But even then, i got the wg so that i will fly under the radar.

I think a good analogy is when women say, "i dress like this for myself". We all know that this is not the fact and that they wear certain items to be noticed. And while people do notice them, they do not always say something. Is part of it for themselves/ourselves? For sure, but a large part is also to be noticed.

If anyone says otherwise, i respect their voice. But i am not 100% sure i believe all the comments here.

correct !

[DiamondJack]

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

I agree in part with DJ, one may choose a watch they feel fits with their self image, and the image they project to the world, without status or impressing people coming into play.

For example. I think of myself as someone who appreciates examples of high quality mechanical engineering, whether it be a watch, gun, car, etc. I also appreciate things that have a history. I appreciate mechanical devices that are over engineered and rugged. I appreciate things that hold value well. I appreciate classic, functional designs.

These are all qualities of my personality, and not coincidently qualities that a Rolex sport watch has. So Rolex fits very nicely into my self image, with status having little to nothing to do with it.

I wear a Vintage collection Aquatimer that nobody outside a card carrying WIS would know is a nice watch, it too fits into my self image and personality.

A diamond encrusted or solid yellow gold watch likely wouldn't, as I don't like flashy things, and generally don't like people noticing any signs of wealth, not that I'm particularly wealthy though. :) I wear a nice watch, one that's rugged, well made, with a classic design and a history, a plain WG wedding band, and that's it. Well, clothes, when outside. :)

But I think DJ was onto something. Rolex, through its marketing, has in fact created a watch that appeals to many of us on many different levels, ultimately it does seem to come down to fitting into your self image and what you see your personality being, and the image you present to the world. Your image might in fact be one which prides itself on NOT showing off, not seeking status or recognition, but, it's still what you choose to show to the world, it's what you care, or don't care about. (These are Grand Seiko owners) JK :)

Truthfully, the only time I want my watch to be noticed is when browsing at high end watch stores.

Well said Ari. Exactly the point I was making...... Nothing we buy for our own personal use is bought randomly. We all have self image concerns at varying levels. We are all projecting an image of one sort or another into the world we live in. Rolex and all brands tap into this psyche and select different attributes to make the product attractive to us. Has anyone ever bought a Rolex without looking in a mirror and clearly all ADs have mirrors for this purpose.

If you were buying purely for yourself and were not concerned with how you looked wearing the watch would you do this? The bottom line is we are all concerned about self image but clearly some a lot more than others.

After we have bought the watch, personality traits inevitably contribute to how flamboyant we are and the recognition and status we seek for ourselves through our worldly goods. Some people are perfectly satisfied keeping their Rolex under the radar and will argue they buy purely for their own pleasure. Some will seek out admiring glances and comments and will pull their shirt cuff up at bars and restaurants, in meetings etc. Everyone will be different and yet I believe we all went through a very similar thought process when we first bought them and self image was most definitely involved

[inspires]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Sure.

That is is when I'm wearing a new watch I just got and I visit my AD or go to GTG where people recognize these types of things. Otherwise it's a watch and hardly anyone notices what I'm wearing.

Exactly!

[TimeOnHand]

The only one who ever notices my watches is my GF. And she is never happy to finds out how much I spend on my addiction!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Please, enlighten me with the depth of your psychoanalytic knowledge base...

I'm sure my psychoanalyst supervisor and I will have a giggle or two over it.

Originally Posted by Le Chef

I talked to a psychologist watch-collecting friend at Northwestern today about this post as I thought it was funny. He thought the psychoanalysis on narcissism was funny too. "Simplistic" was the word he used. Too many variables apparently. "Lacking in experience of psychoanalysis" was his final comment. It would seem a number of people here would agree, regardless of their professional qualifications, or lack of them.

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

So basically, you have no experience with psychoanalysis and psychology, and a "friend" that you claim to know has made vague statements about the veracity and complexity of my statements (not to mention ad hominem attacks on my credentials based on reading one or two posts I made...)?

I call BS. Scientific research is based around isolating a few elements out of many in order to empirically test their relationships without the interference of extraneous variables. Your friend sounds like a hack, or at the least eager to please you at my expense (or perhaps eager to deny his own narcissism!). Not that my posts are purely psychoanalytically based, but feel free to tell your friend to message me and I will be happy to discuss my psychoanalytic affiliations with him personally.

My guess is that you googled the word narcissism and then psychoanalytic theory popped up... There is a lot more research out there on Narcissism and NPD than what you will find on Wikipedia.

If you could counter my arguments with anything useful, instead of ad hominem attacks, I might take you more seriously.

Lighten up gentlemen and I believe I have warned Mr QueueCumber before back in October 2010.Otherwise my psychoanalysis and psychology will be swiftly applied with a extended period of no more forum activity.

[dalip]

Well said Peter...

I'd take that advice..don't bait the moderators - we all are in dire need of clinical help when it comes to the ease of banning those who are clearly deserving

[Wristmaster]

Of course.. The right crowd, at the right moment, at the right place and activities, thats how we determine which piece to wear every morning right?

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by dalip

Well said Peter...

I'd take that advice..don't bait the moderators - we all are in dire need of clinical help when it comes to the ease of banning those who are clearly deserving

If that's not a cry for help then I'm Napoleon Bonepart.

Hang on, I think I am .... or I think therefore I am.

[dalip]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

If that's not a cry for help then I'm Napoleon Bonepart.

Hang on, I think I am .... or I think therefore I am.

Exactly

[rolio]

Originally Posted by bigbear

We all love our watches but I am just curious if members lok forward to wearing their watches where there is a great likelihood of their watch being noticed -- likecoktail parties, dinners or anywhere where large numbers of people are present in close proximity --- like anight club?

thanks,

Really ??????

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

If that's not a cry for help then I'm Napoleon Bonepart.

Hang on, I think I am .... or I think therefore I am.

Originally Posted by dalip

Exactly

I don't think. I know. I yam what I yam and that's all that there am.

[dalip]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

I don't think. I know. I yam what I yam and that's all that there am.

[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by dalip

That's certainly one way of putting it.
You need to tell the videographer to get the spelling of "angle" correct. He spelled it "angel" but I don't think that's what he/she meant.

[globalmedia33]

Absolutely not.

[FremStar]

Damn! So this is how the moderatos hijack threads? Carry on gentlemen!

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by FremStar

Damn! So this is how the moderatos hijack threads? Carry on gentlemen!

It's lucky than Allan is engaged elsewhere or this thread would have gone due South 50 posts since.

[daveathall]

If I feel that someone hasn't noticed my watch , I ask them to ask me the time.

[dalip]

Originally Posted by Rockrolex

That's certainly one way of putting it.
You need to tell the videographer to get the spelling of "angle" correct. He spelled it "angel" but I don't think that's what he/she meant.

I picked it and posted way to quickly to take note Ed

Well...that's a few mins I owe you most probably

[dalip]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

It's lucky than Allan is engaged elsewhere or this thread would have gone due South 50 posts since.

True

Originally Posted by daveathall

If I feel that someone hasn't noticed my watch , I ask them to ask me the time.

And we have a winner ladies and gentlemen

[FremStar]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

It's lucky than Allan is engaged elsewhere or this thread would have gone due South 50 posts since.

Originally Posted by daveathall

If I feel that someone hasn't noticed my watch , I ask them to ask me the time.

Hahahahahahahahahahah!!!

HAGD everyone!