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busytimmy · 23 May 2013, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nidal

pcl on all gold is a great fit. On ss not so much.

+1

Rags · 23 May 2013, 01:49 PM

No, I can't stand them... Brushed all the way for me.

427shark · 23 May 2013, 02:20 PM

Had the gmt2-c and now sub-c. Love the all brushed bracelet of the sub, perfect tool watch.

FNFZ4 · 23 May 2013, 03:56 PM

I actually like them but dont mind the older designs as well

Lumberjact · 23 May 2013, 08:05 PM

I understand why people like PCLs, and also why people find them difficult to maintain. For me, I find them too 'blingy.' I much prefer low-key subtlety where possible, but to each their own.

Jannal · 23 May 2013, 08:11 PM

No.

JGX · 23 May 2013, 08:12 PM

Personally, I love the PCLs and Mike's Blue Sub is the perfect example of why.

That said, I've seen some nicely done brushed GMTs but I'm sorry to say that IMHO the Daytona above just looks plain wrong.

topgear · 23 May 2013, 09:38 PM

I love my GMT II with the PCL.

kmleffler · 23 May 2013, 10:18 PM

Did not like them on my GMT IIC, but I would not have the bracelet brushed during the warranty period.

Reu · 23 May 2013, 10:45 PM

Not keen on PCL's.

In particular, I wish the 116200 Oyster bracelet didn't have them...

tfduff723 · 23 May 2013, 11:08 PM

I like them then I hate them then I like then I hate them ... you get the picture

Overall, I really do love my GMT IIC. It is the one I like the most out of all the "modern" Rolex sport watches (by far). But I go back & forth all the time on getting the PCLs brushed. Right now leaning towards doing it. IMO Rolex should provide buyers with a bracelet option up front. PCLs or brushed just like oyster or jubilee on DJs

I see a lot of comments about how easily the PCLs scratch and honestly I think that is overblown. Unless you wear your watch really hard the PCLs don't look bad over time on a stainless one. Different than a TT where the gold PCLs can look pretty worn. My GMT is 3+ years old and unless you look close you wouldn't notice. And I wear it all the time.

In the end it is about bling versus no bling. My biggest hang-up is how much the PCLs catch artificial light and really bring attention to the watch. They reflect a lot and that is a bigger issue for me at times than if they get a few scratches. Especially when I am used to the traditional brushed look of my 16710.

To borrow a phrase from another TRFer - the modern sports Rolex line-up has gone from "Tool to Jewel".

anothernewphone · 23 May 2013, 11:21 PM

The polished links on my Omega Seamaster just bothered me too much. I loved that watch, but felt the polished links made it too dressy for everyday use, but it was not dressy enough for a suit. It was right in between. The Planet Ocean with the fully-brushed bracelet was amazing, though. I've seen brushed bracelets on SMPs, and they look great.

I have owned the Sub, Pelagos, and now the Explorer II because I love the brushed bracelets in khakis at work, or jeans at home.

a_plus1234 · 23 May 2013, 11:34 PM

I like the PCLs. Scratches don't bother me. Watches are meant to be worn. You will never own a watch that you will not scratch. It's no good unless you use them! I specifically got a GMT over the Sub because I liked the PCLs

kilyung · 23 May 2013, 11:37 PM

I do not like PCLs!
I do not like them, no ma'am.

You do not like them.
So you say.
Try them! Try them!
And you may.
Try them and you may, I say.

If you will let me be,
I will try them.

You will see.Say!
I like PCLs on me!
I do! I like them perfectly!
And I would dive with it in a boat.
And I would wear it crossing a moat…

And I will wear it in the rain.
And in the dark. And on a train.
And in a car. And in a tree.
They are so good, so good, you see!

So I will leave it be, out of the box.
And I will leave it for all to gawk.
And I will wear it around my home.
And I will wear it wherever I should roam.
And I will proudly show it here and there.
Say! I will wear it EVERYWHERE!

I do so like PCLs!
Thank you!
Thank you,
Now I see!

a_plus1234 · 23 May 2013, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

I do not like PCLs!
I do not like them, no ma'am.

You do not like them.
So you say.
Try them! Try them!
And you may.
Try them and you may, I say.

If you will let me be,
I will try them.

You will see.Say!
I like PCLs on me!
I do! I like them perfectly!
And I would dive with it in a boat.
And I would wear it crossing a moat…

And I will wear it in the rain.
And in the dark. And on a train.
And in a car. And in a tree.
They are so good, so good, you see!

So I will leave it be, out of the box.
And I will leave it for all to gawk.
And I will wear it around my home.
And I will wear it wherever I should roam.
And I will proudly show it here and there.
Say! I will wear it EVERYWHERE!

I do so like PCLs!
Thank you!
Thank you,
Now I see!

Good one! I think Dr Seuss would also like PCLs

Duc5150 · 24 May 2013, 12:09 AM

PCL's to blingy for me.....my choice is go brushed but to each his own that's why so many choices....my $.02

Todd B. in the OC

codecow · 24 May 2013, 12:21 AM

I like them, I just don't like that they scratch easily especially gold PCLs. With that said, I'm not planning on selling my Daytona or my DJ2.

petenyc · 24 May 2013, 12:24 AM

no pcl

Rashid.bk · 24 May 2013, 12:29 AM

I love the pcls on my GMTc but love the way light plays more with brushed bracelets.

Elusion · 24 May 2013, 01:10 AM

I like them. But sometimes Brushed would be nice.
Would an AD sell just a brushed Glidelock Bracelet? So you could switch them out?

Stevieb · 24 May 2013, 03:41 AM

Had my GMT 2 C for about 3 months (bought new). I've just been looking at the PCLs and there are plenty of hairline scratches especially on the clasp. It is my daily wearer and will continue to be so.

I like the PCLs and will never polish. I'll leave that to the experts when service time eventually arrives. Great watch and the next may well be a SS Daytona.........more PCLs.

tattooedfagin · 24 May 2013, 04:18 AM

Never been a fan of PCL, brushed for me

wantonebad · 24 May 2013, 05:03 AM

As others have said I like PCL's on two-tone or all gold watches, do not care for them on SS! All sports models in SS should have 100% brushed bracelets IMHO.

floater156 · 24 May 2013, 05:04 AM

Not on SS, but on gold it's ok.

bscepter · 24 May 2013, 05:06 AM

way too blingy. no way.

FLY-DOG · 24 May 2013, 05:33 AM

I like the looks of PCL's but don't own any because I would go nuts trying to keep the center links from getting all scratched up!

Speeding911 · 26 May 2013, 05:57 PM

PCLs a natural on the Smurf. Im a fan of brushing the SS. My AD couldn't or wouldn't brush my Daytona last week for fear of the Rolex police watching. Have others used a jeweler up in Seattle to go satin?

Hairdude1 · 26 May 2013, 06:11 PM

I like them

Furbo · 26 May 2013, 07:17 PM

I will like them when they make them fingerprint proof.

23 May 2013, 01:49 PM	#92
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	No, I can't stand them... Brushed all the way for me. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

23 May 2013, 02:20 PM	#93
427shark "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: JD Location: Jersey Watch: Dj2 tt, 126610LV Posts: 772	Had the gmt2-c and now sub-c. Love the all brushed bracelet of the sub, perfect tool watch. __________________ It's not easy being green

23 May 2013, 03:56 PM	#94
FNFZ4 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Alfred Location: DC Metro Watch: None Posts: 29,368	I actually like them but dont mind the older designs as well __________________ NEED PC HELP? ASK HERE! Watches: Patek 5205G \| Patek 5167A \| 16613 Serti \| 116718 Green \| 216570 Black \| 16700 Pepsi Wish list: Patek 5726/1 \| AP RG Ceramic \| Patek 5712 \| Patek 5130

23 May 2013, 08:05 PM	#95
Lumberjact "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Paris Watch: Explorer Posts: 446	I understand why people like PCLs, and also why people find them difficult to maintain. For me, I find them too 'blingy.' I much prefer low-key subtlety where possible, but to each their own. __________________ "Onto his wrist he slipped his steel Rolex Oyster Perpetual, the 34mm model, the date window its only complication; Bond did not need to know the phases of the moon or the exact moment of high tide at Southampton. And he suspected very few people did."

23 May 2013, 08:11 PM	#96
Jannal "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 685	No. __________________ Bell & Ross: BRS-98S Casio: G-Shock GW-5000-1JF / DW-5040 40th / DW-5035D 35th / DW-5030C 30th / DW-5000SP 20th / DW-5600C-9CV / Marlin W-450 Panerai: Luminor 000i Seiko: SBGX117 / SBGX335 / SNE543P1

23 May 2013, 08:12 PM	#97
JGX "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Wales, UK Posts: 789	Personally, I love the PCLs and Mike's Blue Sub is the perfect example of why. That said, I've seen some nicely done brushed GMTs but I'm sorry to say that IMHO the Daytona above just looks plain wrong.

23 May 2013, 09:38 PM	#98
topgear "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Middle East Watch: 116710 LN, PAM390 Posts: 887	I love my GMT II with the PCL.

23 May 2013, 10:18 PM	#99
kmleffler "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ken Location: New York, NY Watch: GS SD GMT Posts: 389	Did not like them on my GMT IIC, but I would not have the bracelet brushed during the warranty period.

23 May 2013, 10:45 PM	#100
Reu Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,152	Not keen on PCL's. In particular, I wish the 116200 Oyster bracelet didn't have them...

23 May 2013, 11:08 PM	#101
tfduff723 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan USA Watch: Rolex & Omega 4 Me Posts: 1,685	I like them then I hate them then I like then I hate them ... you get the picture Overall, I really do love my GMT IIC. It is the one I like the most out of all the "modern" Rolex sport watches (by far). But I go back & forth all the time on getting the PCLs brushed. Right now leaning towards doing it. IMO Rolex should provide buyers with a bracelet option up front. PCLs or brushed just like oyster or jubilee on DJs I see a lot of comments about how easily the PCLs scratch and honestly I think that is overblown. Unless you wear your watch really hard the PCLs don't look bad over time on a stainless one. Different than a TT where the gold PCLs can look pretty worn. My GMT is 3+ years old and unless you look close you wouldn't notice. And I wear it all the time. In the end it is about bling versus no bling. My biggest hang-up is how much the PCLs catch artificial light and really bring attention to the watch. They reflect a lot and that is a bigger issue for me at times than if they get a few scratches. Especially when I am used to the traditional brushed look of my 16710. To borrow a phrase from another TRFer - the modern sports Rolex line-up has gone from "Tool to Jewel".

23 May 2013, 11:21 PM	#102
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	The polished links on my Omega Seamaster just bothered me too much. I loved that watch, but felt the polished links made it too dressy for everyday use, but it was not dressy enough for a suit. It was right in between. The Planet Ocean with the fully-brushed bracelet was amazing, though. I've seen brushed bracelets on SMPs, and they look great. I have owned the Sub, Pelagos, and now the Explorer II because I love the brushed bracelets in khakis at work, or jeans at home.

23 May 2013, 11:34 PM	#103
a_plus1234 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: n/a Posts: 395	I like the PCLs. Scratches don't bother me. Watches are meant to be worn. You will never own a watch that you will not scratch. It's no good unless you use them! I specifically got a GMT over the Sub because I liked the PCLs

23 May 2013, 11:37 PM	#104
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Ode to PCL I do not like PCLs! I do not like them, no ma'am. You do not like them. So you say. Try them! Try them! And you may. Try them and you may, I say. If you will let me be, I will try them. You will see.Say! I like PCLs on me! I do! I like them perfectly! And I would dive with it in a boat. And I would wear it crossing a moat… And I will wear it in the rain. And in the dark. And on a train. And in a car. And in a tree. They are so good, so good, you see! So I will leave it be, out of the box. And I will leave it for all to gawk. And I will wear it around my home. And I will wear it wherever I should roam. And I will proudly show it here and there. Say! I will wear it EVERYWHERE! I do so like PCLs! Thank you! Thank you, Now I see!

24 May 2013, 12:09 AM	#106
Duc5150 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: TB Location: West Coast Posts: 339	PCL's to blingy for me.....my choice is go brushed but to each his own that's why so many choices....my $.02 Todd B. in the OC

24 May 2013, 12:21 AM	#107
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 5,151	I like them, I just don't like that they scratch easily especially gold PCLs. With that said, I'm not planning on selling my Daytona or my DJ2.

24 May 2013, 12:24 AM	#108
petenyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: pete Location: NYC Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,011	no pcl

24 May 2013, 12:29 AM	#109
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,173	I love the pcls on my GMTc but love the way light plays more with brushed bracelets.

24 May 2013, 01:10 AM	#110
Elusion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: US Watch: Speedy&Submariner Posts: 158	I like them. But sometimes Brushed would be nice. Would an AD sell just a brushed Glidelock Bracelet? So you could switch them out?

24 May 2013, 03:41 AM	#111
Stevieb "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Watch: Seamaster Posts: 181	Had my GMT 2 C for about 3 months (bought new). I've just been looking at the PCLs and there are plenty of hairline scratches especially on the clasp. It is my daily wearer and will continue to be so. I like the PCLs and will never polish. I'll leave that to the experts when service time eventually arrives. Great watch and the next may well be a SS Daytona.........more PCLs.

24 May 2013, 04:18 AM	#112
tattooedfagin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chad Location: the neighbourhood Watch: 1680 Red Posts: 2,262	Never been a fan of PCL, brushed for me __________________ SS Sub Date (F) DSSD (V) Red Sub (Mk4) TRF Hall of Fame

24 May 2013, 05:03 AM	#113
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	As others have said I like PCL's on two-tone or all gold watches, do not care for them on SS! All sports models in SS should have 100% brushed bracelets IMHO. __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

24 May 2013, 05:04 AM	#114
floater156 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Wisconsin Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,984	Not on SS, but on gold it's ok. __________________ Lead by example through production.

24 May 2013, 05:06 AM	#115
bscepter "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Patrick Location: Omaha Watch: 16610 Submariner Posts: 948	way too blingy. no way. __________________ 2009 16610 Submariner Date 1971 1601 Datejust 1966 Omega Seamaster 1965 Vulcain Voyager Chronograph

24 May 2013, 05:33 AM	#116
FLY-DOG Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Kerry Location: (GMT -5:00) Watch: 1991 Submariner Posts: 230	I like the looks of PCL's but don't own any because I would go nuts trying to keep the center links from getting all scratched up!

26 May 2013, 05:57 PM	#117
Speeding911 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Greg Location: May Creek Watch: The next one Posts: 109	PCLs a natural on the Smurf. Im a fan of brushing the SS. My AD couldn't or wouldn't brush my Daytona last week for fear of the Rolex police watching. Have others used a jeweler up in Seattle to go satin? __________________ 116520 White, 16710 Pepsi, TOG 116261, 126334 Wimbledon , PAM 241, 512, 1537, 1046, Speedy, Breitling Chrono, PP 2461, Tank Americaine.

26 May 2013, 06:11 PM	#118
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	I like them

26 May 2013, 07:17 PM	#119
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	I will like them when they make them fingerprint proof.

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