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Old 17 September 2018, 12:56 AM   #91
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I'd hazard a guess that 90% of potential buyers couldn't give a flying monkey that the watch has been polished.
Slower to sell and for less money. This is a fact, especially for newer stuff.
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Old 17 September 2018, 12:56 AM   #92
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I think this was the real issue.
No issues here. I called in less than 24hrs to make change. RSC demanded confirmation in writing which I did. I received email writing confirmation and I called a second time to confirm. I dont see how much clearer I could be or how much more confirmation I needed to do.

By your logic, let’s say I were planning a wedding and increased my guest number from 100-200 the next day after signing the contract. The venue asks me to confirm in writing with a new signed contract, then on the wedding the venue only arranged 100 seats, it would be my fault? Ridiculous.
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:01 AM   #93
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You lost much more than $450 in resale value.

Compare it next to an unpolished identical watch, and the edges will always be more rounded and “bubbly.” There are many threads why you shouldn’t send a watch to RSC, but you chose to proceed at your own risk. Now, you must bear the consequences.
Complete and utter boswellocks,the condition of the original poster watch,and say buying the polished watch with a two year warranty. I know which one I would choose and it would be the beat up version one.This no polish syndrome in the real world is bordering on the ridiculous now.
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:03 AM   #94
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Slower to sell and for less money. This is a fact, especially for newer stuff.
It's a Daytona. How much less are we talking? Less than in its previous condition? I'm assuming with no service history?
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:03 AM   #95
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TBH, I would much rather wear the watch in the after pic than the before.

But, that's me...
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:08 AM   #96
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Take the money and run!! The watch looks great!
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:11 AM   #97
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They did a great job, as one would expect. Disappointing, but take the $450 and enjoy your watch. I would send to LAWW in many years and only if you really feel it needs work. LAWW has one of mine now, and that is because it needed their kind of attention. Yours looks great! 🤙


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Old 17 September 2018, 01:13 AM   #98
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This isn't going fly well but , I much rather the original non polished watch. I think the crown guards look uneven and the bezel numbers and letters look not as crisp. A unpolished watch is always more desirable to me, but to each his own. You messed up by saying yes then no, to polish hence the miscommunication.
LOL, OP later states that the bezel is a replacement bezel...

Looks like they did a fantastic job on the watch.
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:22 AM   #99
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You're correct, it is irrelevant in this case, however I do agree with Peter that the anti polishing mentality is getting a bit annoying.

And I also completely agree that RSC should have listened to his request.

But in the end it is not a big deal, he's a getting a decent amount of money back and from what I can tell it looks pretty good.
I don’t disagree with you at all on any of this, and I agree with peter that the polishing debate can be irritating, but I don’t think it’s fair to chalk this thread up to a simple “polishing syndrome” irritation. I also don’t think it’s very nice to belittle the OP and tell him he should be jumping for joy instead of starting threads about it.

IMO, It’s a pretty discouraging message to receive from one of, if not the most high up mods on the forum.
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:25 AM   #100
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Take the 450 and move on, the watch looks great. Enjoy!
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:29 AM   #101
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It looks pretty amazing to me! Take a money and be happy. Life’s too short to worry about this.
+1. I think it looks great!
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:49 AM   #102
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This isn't going fly well but , I much rather the original non polished watch. I think the crown guards look uneven and the bezel numbers and letters look not as crisp. A unpolished watch is always more desirable to me, but to each his own. You messed up by saying yes then no, to polish hence the miscommunication.
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LOL, OP later states that the bezel is a replacement bezel...

Looks like they did a fantastic job on the watch.
Haha...exactly! Just goes to show how distorted perceptions are when one carries the bias that something must be wrong with the watch if it was polished.
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:54 AM   #103
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Ugh. I hate hearing this, but the watch really looks great at least. Hope you can continue to enjoy it!
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:02 AM   #104
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TBH, I would much rather wear the watch in the after pic than the before.

But, that's me...
+1. I agree. The polished result looks superb. I understand your frustration, but I think you'll get over it quite quickly. I'd kindly accept the offer they've made as a generous gesture of goodwill, and continue the enjoy the watch.
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:16 AM   #105
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Haha...exactly! Just goes to show how distorted perceptions are when one carries the bias that something must be wrong with the watch if it was polished.
I would love to post a brand new watch but pretend like it’s several years old and just back from the RSC from a full service and polish and see how many people find issues with the polish job... Someone would say, edges look rounded and guards are uneven..guaranteed.
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:23 AM   #106
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it would be my fault? Ridiculous.
I'm not saying it was your fault. I'm saying this is probably where the snafu got under way.
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:26 AM   #107
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You lost much more than $450 in resale value.

Compare it next to an unpolished identical watch, and the edges will always be more rounded and “bubbly.” There are many threads why you shouldn’t send a watch to RSC, but you chose to proceed at your own risk. Now, you must bear the consequences.
Depends on the buyer. I'd pay $450 more for the polished watch than the scratched up one as would many other buyers. You can't claim to know the mind of every potential purchaser of a second hand Daytona in the world.
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:27 AM   #108
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I would love to post a brand new watch but pretend like it’s several years old and just back from the RSC from a full service and polish and see how many people find issues with the polish job... Someone would say, edges look rounded and guards are uneven..guaranteed.
Sounds like a great time. What new watch are you going to post? Oh wait, I guess secret is out.

I will say that modern watches can “withstand” the polishing better than vintage. I just don’t see the need to tart up a tool watch.
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:27 AM   #109
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:31 AM   #110
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I don’t disagree with you at all on any of this, and I agree with peter that the polishing debate can be irritating, but I don’t think it’s fair to chalk this thread up to a simple “polishing syndrome” irritation. I also don’t think it’s very nice to belittle the OP and tell him he should be jumping for joy instead of starting threads about it.

IMO, It’s a pretty discouraging message to receive from one of, if not the most high up mods on the forum.
I always call a spade a spade, and I am entitled to state my opinion, and IMHO the OP is making a mountain out of a molehill it's that simple.And will say again this anti polish syndrome is now getting blown out of all proportion.As long as any polishing is done correctly there should not be a problem.What is a problem today is those wanting to polish everytime they see the smallest scratch, and reading the hundreds of posts on forum we sure have a lot of those.
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:08 AM   #111
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I always call a spade a spade, and I am entitled to state my opinion, and IMHO the OP is making a mountain out of a molehill it's that simple.And will say again this anti polish syndrome is now getting blown out of all proportion.As long as any polishing is done correctly there should not be a problem.What is a problem today is those wanting to polish everytime they see the smallest scratch, and reading the hundreds of posts on forum we sure have a lot of those.
I of course whole heartdely agree and believe you’re entitled to your opinion, just as I’m entitled to mine and the OPs to his.

I don’t agree that that the OP is making a mountain out of a molehole. He’s simply asking for advice and thoughts on an unfortunate situation that’s neither a mole hole or a mountain IMO.

As far as what the problem is here, I will repeat, the main issue is that the OP hired RSC to provide a professional service, specifically requested they do not polish his watch (his property) and they did it anyway. You continuously overlook that aspect of his post and/or say there’s no problem with their actions. That is my objection to your posts.

If you want to go on about people being overly sensitive about scratches, or overly sensitive about whether or not to polish, you’re free to do so of course, but I don’t see how it’s either relevant or helpful in this thread.
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:30 AM   #112
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The "unpolished" marketing BS created by resellers to get suckers to buy their watches for top dollar. Eric Ku on the VRF already banned the word "unpolished". If Eric has banned the word "unpolished" on VRF, you know the lemmings have been falling off the cliff en masse.

RSC is refunding you $450 for an official Rolex servicing, take the money and enjoy the watch with the RSC warranty. This is a no brainer. Even if you bring the watch to LAWW now for case polishing, they may shave down more metal on the case.
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:36 AM   #113
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Take the money and enjoy the watch. It looks great!
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:41 AM   #114
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Daytona mid cases of that reference don’t have chamfers, the only defined edges should be at the base of the lugs on the bottom of the mid case.

That watch is worth more now than it was before it was sent to RSC.

Honestly. Some of the points made on this forum are so off the mark it’s ridiculous

OP, if you had posted that after pic saying look at the work LAWW did, I guarantee you EVERY response would have been along the lines of “wow! Great job. Looks like new”.

OP, your watch looks fantastic. Lugs look bang on. Be annoyed that RSC did not adhere to your wishes. Be pleased that they did a fantastic job and you got $450 back
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:53 AM   #115
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I disagree with the comment of me making a mountain out of a molehill, otherwise the watch would be in RSC already for a new case or filing a chargeback on my CC which would be unethical to say the least. Like I said in the start of the thread, RSC did a fantastic job, and no doubt that the watch looks amazing compared to the condition it was when I purchased it preowned.

My intentions were to get this watch to fairly new condition so I could enjoy it, and not thinking of resale. That's why I had no issues getting a new bezel replacement, a new crystal, and new caseback (old one had a bit of a shallow dent). This was my grail, and I sold a 116500 Daytona with little to no regrets. It is afterall, a gift to myself after my successful open heart surgery which is a blessing in of itself. I am enjoying it on my wrist as we speak and taking the $450 as another blessing.
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:56 AM   #116
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I think it looks amazing now. Take the money and enjoy a beautiful watch
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Old 17 September 2018, 04:00 AM   #117
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Man, I feel your pain. I'm not really sure how to react to this. Rolex should follow your instructions. The watch does not pretty amazing after service. Wear it in good health.
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Old 17 September 2018, 04:01 AM   #118
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I'd hazard a guess that 90% of potential buyers couldn't give a flying monkey that the watch has been polished.
Wrong,A polished Watch always sells for less than a unpolished example.Like it or hate it,It’s the truth.
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Old 17 September 2018, 04:03 AM   #119
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Complete and utter boswellocks,the condition of the original poster watch,and say buying the polished watch with a two year warranty. I know which one I would choose and it would be the beat up version one.This no polish syndrome in the real world is bordering on the ridiculous now.
But it’s real,Just because You don’t agree doesn’t change a thing.
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I still don't understand why they did not offer a new case. A stainless steel watch case can hardly be worth very much.
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