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2th_doc · 6 September 2019, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by WojtekSk

Hi guys,

This morning I took delivery of an "unpolished" 16710 GMT II (was advertised as such).

How much did you pay for this watch?

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jensonslee · 6 September 2019, 11:41 AM

I never count on a watch being unpolished even if the dealer says so. The dealer's description is always such a joke anyway. Pictures are what tell the story.

SubMarine · 6 September 2019, 12:38 PM

Proof why “buying the seller” is terrible advice.

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Originally Posted by jensonslee

I never count on a watch being unpolished even if the dealer says so. The dealer's description is always such a joke anyway. Pictures are what tell the story.

Jacky88_99 · 6 September 2019, 01:13 PM

If i'm looking for a 16710, this one i would take into consideration. I bought a preowned 16710 F9xxxxx serial with original paper no box, the certificate paper dated late 2007. Watches sold few years after its production year was normal for particular models as i recall 16570 was way more popular at that time in Taiwan.

epicurus · 6 September 2019, 01:38 PM

Watch is beautiful. I dont see an issue

WojtekSk · 7 September 2019, 06:37 PM

Thanks guys for all your input.

I had been hunting for a 16710 GMT ii for about two years. I tried making offers on some listings but would usually come too late, the watch would usually have been spoken for by someone faster.

When I saw this one listed as unpolished and for a reasonable price (10.5k euro), I jumped on it since I knew it would be sold fast.

The watch looks really good and I like it very much. It IS in a very good condition. If it hadn't been advertised as "unpolished" I wouldn't have all these doubts and I wouldn't be bothering you that much. I simply wanted to ascertain what "unpolished" actually means for an 16710 and what it should look like.

I would agree with some of you that the other issues I mentioned (the warranty date and the GMT booklet) were not as important.

I would also agree that I should have checked all of that before buying the watch, instead of "buying the seller", an established seller from Berlin active since 2005 and with lots of positive reviews.

Now the decision is if I keep this watch, which admittedly is very nice, and according to most of you was polished before, or return it.

I will stretch your patience a bit more and ask one last question. I have found another GMT II advertised as "never polished". I will post some pics of the watch, and please confirm that this is what an "unpolished" 16710 should look like.

Thanks again for your input and patience.

WojtekSk · 7 September 2019, 06:40 PM

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Onequik135i · 7 September 2019, 09:04 PM

Looks to be possibly unpolished to me.

2th_doc · 7 September 2019, 11:05 PM

I think you are trying to split hairs here. 10.5k euro is not a bad price for that 1st D serial that you bought. I believe you were worried that you paid a premium because it was “unpolished.” Which I don’t think you did. You paid market price for that watch. To give an example DavidSW has a D serial with a warranty dated from 2007 for a much higher price than what you paid.

https://davidsw.com/watches/rolex-wa...-blue-bezel-8/

What serial is this new 16710 that you found? And what is the price of this new 16710?

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sillo · 7 September 2019, 11:12 PM

What's the serial on that last one you posted? Chamfers look a little thick for a no holes case.

2th_doc · 7 September 2019, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sillo38

What's the serial on that last one you posted? Chamfers look a little thick for a no holes case.

Same thing I was thinking about the chamfers looking too pronounced. But it could just be the magnification maybe. Because the D serial that I linked from DavidSW looks the same on the magnified pics. OP I think you will continue to get responses all across the board like on the 1st watch you posted. And these minutiae details are gonna drive you crazy. The 1st watch looks great. And this 2nd watch looks great.

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sillo · 7 September 2019, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 2th_doc

The 1st watch looks great. And this 2nd watch looks great.

Exactly what I was thinking

ADR1982 · 8 September 2019, 12:21 AM

Both look good. I have a 16710 that i bought new in 2005 and honestly cant tell the diff between that and the omes you are posting

Wrist King · 8 September 2019, 12:29 AM

Wearing my beauty today. Liberated it from safe queen duty.

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Crazy Lugs · 8 September 2019, 12:56 AM

I feel like we're all just a bit nuts...

Still good discussion for educational purposes, I suppose.

Seibei · 8 September 2019, 06:05 AM

Dear OP, have a google and look for the watch you are interested in NOS. Here is one: https://www.watchcentre.com/product/...bp-16710/5736#

It looks sharper than the one you have posted. I do not think you should settle. If you want unpolished you should be able to get it. It is going to cost a lot but it seems like you think it is worth it.

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7 September 2019, 09:04 PM	#101
Onequik135i "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,563	Looks to be possibly unpolished to me. __________________ 16750 / 116610LV / 116613LB / Ed White 321 / PAM111 / PAM170

7 September 2019, 11:12 PM	#103
sillo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Sean Location: NY Watch: 5 Digit Posts: 2,840	What's the serial on that last one you posted? Chamfers look a little thick for a no holes case. __________________ 14060 \| 16570 \| 16600 \| 16700 \| 16800 \| 79260 @TheGMTHand

6 September 2019, 11:41 AM	#92
jensonslee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: USA Posts: 84	I never count on a watch being unpolished even if the dealer says so. The dealer's description is always such a joke anyway. Pictures are what tell the story.

6 September 2019, 01:13 PM	#94
Jacky88_99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Taiwan KHH Watch: 114270 Posts: 82	If i'm looking for a 16710, this one i would take into consideration. I bought a preowned 16710 F9xxxxx serial with original paper no box, the certificate paper dated late 2007. Watches sold few years after its production year was normal for particular models as i recall 16570 was way more popular at that time in Taiwan.

6 September 2019, 01:38 PM	#95
epicurus "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: NYC Posts: 572	Watch is beautiful. I dont see an issue

7 September 2019, 06:37 PM	#96
WojtekSk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Brussels Watch: SubC 116610 LN Posts: 32	Thanks guys for all your input. I had been hunting for a 16710 GMT ii for about two years. I tried making offers on some listings but would usually come too late, the watch would usually have been spoken for by someone faster. When I saw this one listed as unpolished and for a reasonable price (10.5k euro), I jumped on it since I knew it would be sold fast. The watch looks really good and I like it very much. It IS in a very good condition. If it hadn't been advertised as "unpolished" I wouldn't have all these doubts and I wouldn't be bothering you that much. I simply wanted to ascertain what "unpolished" actually means for an 16710 and what it should look like. I would agree with some of you that the other issues I mentioned (the warranty date and the GMT booklet) were not as important. I would also agree that I should have checked all of that before buying the watch, instead of "buying the seller", an established seller from Berlin active since 2005 and with lots of positive reviews. Now the decision is if I keep this watch, which admittedly is very nice, and according to most of you was polished before, or return it. I will stretch your patience a bit more and ask one last question. I have found another GMT II advertised as "never polished". I will post some pics of the watch, and please confirm that this is what an "unpolished" 16710 should look like. Thanks again for your input and patience.

7 September 2019, 06:40 PM	#97
WojtekSk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Brussels Watch: SubC 116610 LN Posts: 32	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 September 2019, 06:41 PM	#99
WojtekSk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Brussels Watch: SubC 116610 LN Posts: 32	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 September 2019, 06:41 PM	#100
WojtekSk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Brussels Watch: SubC 116610 LN Posts: 32	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 September 2019, 11:05 PM	#102
2th_doc "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Atl Posts: 920	I think you are trying to split hairs here. 10.5k euro is not a bad price for that 1st D serial that you bought. I believe you were worried that you paid a premium because it was “unpolished.” Which I don’t think you did. You paid market price for that watch. To give an example DavidSW has a D serial with a warranty dated from 2007 for a much higher price than what you paid. https://davidsw.com/watches/rolex-wa...-blue-bezel-8/ What serial is this new 16710 that you found? And what is the price of this new 16710? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 September 2019, 12:21 AM	#106
ADR1982 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Parent's basement Posts: 247	Both look good. I have a 16710 that i bought new in 2005 and honestly cant tell the diff between that and the omes you are posting

8 September 2019, 12:29 AM	#107
Wrist King "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Hong Kong Watch: 16610 Sub, 16710 P Posts: 333	Wearing my beauty today. Liberated it from safe queen duty. Sent from my SM-G9730 using Tapatalk

8 September 2019, 12:56 AM	#108
Crazy Lugs "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA Posts: 855	I feel like we're all just a bit nuts... Still good discussion for educational purposes, I suppose.

8 September 2019, 06:05 AM	#109
Seibei Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Zealand Watch: 114060 Posts: 2,630	Dear OP, have a google and look for the watch you are interested in NOS. Here is one: https://www.watchcentre.com/product/...bp-16710/5736# It looks sharper than the one you have posted. I do not think you should settle. If you want unpolished you should be able to get it. It is going to cost a lot but it seems like you think it is worth it. NOS:

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