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007timer · 13 January 2020, 02:17 PM

Look, it’s obvious that have spent some time contemplating what watch you want and had set out for a Submariner. The GMT has an additional complication and is a TT. Not something you can compare.

I agree that the GMT is very nice and not as flashy as you might think. In person it’s a very nice watch.

Don’t let the pressure of building a relationship with an AD deviate you from your plans. If you do so, you will always feel that you were taken.

If you like the GMT in its own merit and you will wear it, then go for it. TT in general is less popular than SS or solid PM watches.

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007timer · 13 January 2020, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

If you do like the CHNR, not called the rootbeer - there is already that model, then I'd buy it, no different to the others, then you can build a relationship with AD.

Exactly. No drinks here. CHNR

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jamescarter2a · 13 January 2020, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

Thank you. I'm going to go in tomorrow and try it on again and see if I have the same reaction now that I'm better prepared and have the same reaction. If it "sings" to me, I'll pull the trigger.

Thank you everyone for your help!

You said in your first post "However, I kind of fell in love with (the) watch".
That's something.

Indeed if you feel something when putting the Rootbeer on and not with the Submariner, get the Rootbeer (if you can afford it and if you are comfortable wearing a TT watch on a daily basis, of course).

It's a stunning piece.

htc8p · 13 January 2020, 06:08 PM

AD is just trying to pull you in...imho...as a beginner i would go with the SS Sub and see how you like it

nevergiveup · 13 January 2020, 07:31 PM

Slow down, wait for the sub please !

Yaz · 13 January 2020, 07:40 PM

GMT and Sub are different but I may say "equally respected" (using your words).
I think it is more about your feelings than building a relationship with your AD.

If you love the watch, go for it. If not, wait for your Sub as your first Rolex watch.
To me, buying a watch is an emotional act, you need to get this adrenaline and more important, you need to love it, otherwise, you will not wear it as you have to.
I had a couple of Rolex from vintage to modern, and other brands, but the one I bought three years ago (a modest OP39 114300 Dark Rhodium) is maybe my favorite emotional purchase. Over the 16710 Coke that I love, the 1603 Wide Boy or the 16570 Polar. I just walked by Bucherer Geneva one day after work, I was tired and just looking at this watch : whoa ! Get inside, ask to wear it and booom ! On my wrist.
I love wearing it time to time.
So pull the trigger on the one you want, the one you'll wear proudly, and the one which celebrate his important milestone o n your life, because we live only once !

Yaz · 13 January 2020, 07:44 PM

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Giangos · 13 January 2020, 10:02 PM

I have both and love them for different reasons. Both get wear and I’m glad to have them too.

I don’t think you can go wrong with either.

If you pass it will show your AD that you are serious about getting what you want and I think it’s likely they will get you a sub.

However .... if you want to build a collection over time. I’d get this one now and wait for the sub. Passing this time for the sub might mean you never get offered the CHNR again.

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beshannon · 13 January 2020, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

1. Respect

Does anybody "respect" a Sub any more?

2. It has gold parts, it's going to cost more.

3. Any Rolex will hold it's own - no need to try and compare it to something else

4. It's a good looking watch.

Get a watch that you want to wear and have been looking forward to. Only you can decide if you want a TT vs. a SS, or whatever.

/thread

Muxi · 13 January 2020, 10:43 PM

Two-tones can be quite a refreshing sight to behold in a sea of SS. Maybe yes.

jpcwon · 13 January 2020, 10:55 PM

In my opinion, you're at least doing it right by jumping in head first and acquiring a desirable piece that will stay in demand for a long time. I can't tell you how many thousands I lost by buying cheapo "beginner" watches that you'll be basically stuck with if you ever decide to sell them.

Ultimately you should buy what you like, but there's something to be said for going straight for the good stuff IMO ;)

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APPRF · 13 January 2020, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

1. Respect

Does anybody "respect" a Sub any more?

2. It has gold parts, it's going to cost more.

3. Any Rolex will hold it's own - no need to try and compare it to something else

4. It's a good looking watch.

Get a watch that you want to wear and have been looking forward to. Only you can decide if you want a TT vs. a SS, or whatever.

This

I will add go for the TT Chnr, and still keep your name for a sub. If they call, and you still want the sub that's good. If you don't want it just tell them to put you on another SS Sports list, and this time pick a harder one to get.

Rolex_AG · 14 January 2020, 12:02 AM

Make sure it absolutely sings to you!

If you think you are settling even if it is 1%, don't do it. You will regret the decision to not wait for what you really want.

Podmornica · 14 January 2020, 12:33 AM

If you are willing to stretch that much for an CHNR, why not consider the 126710BLRO or BLNR on the gray market or sale section of the forum?

They are not to be found "everywhere" like the Submariners and are very easy to team with formal to casual attire.

Golfbone · 14 January 2020, 12:36 AM

Go take a look at it....try it on and see if it moves you. If not...wait for what you want ....exactly what you want. There is no rush.

rolexest · 14 January 2020, 12:39 AM

Wait for the sub.

Geckobros · 14 January 2020, 12:43 AM

For me it has to be love at first sight or I am just not doing it. With that being said, there are some "historic" pieces I do want in my collection but they tend to be shoved down the list.

As others have mentioned, don't buy it "just because it's available" as you will probably regret it and have to deal with the hassle of flipping it. "I should have gotten..."

mas12 · 14 January 2020, 01:01 AM

I think it's possible you would have researched and loved any watch they would have offered you... just because you know how hard it is to get a SS sports model nowadays.

I thought I wanted a BLNR first back in late 2016, had an offer to buy one in 2017 from AD but wasn't ready to pull the trigger. Gave myself a few months to think about what I truly wanted and actually settled on a Sub. I expressed interest in mid-2018 and purchased in Nov 2018. Don't regret choosing the Sub over BLNR as my first one bit.

I also had an opportunity to buy a DSSD that I turned down.

Bottom line is do not rush into it and do not buy just cause you have the opportunity to do so. Follow your gut!

fooey · 14 January 2020, 02:42 AM

well....did you buy it?
i bet he did!
hard to let a watch like that go!

904VT · 14 January 2020, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmash

Again, I clearly mentioned you could be none of those and was in no way trying to be snobby. If anything you’re lending a hand to that stereotype though, as you literally said you want to buy a watch to try and ‘flex’ on other people and look better than them?

Anyhow good luck

I wouldn't take your comments as snobby in any way. Quite honestly, if the OP needs to ask others which watch to get rather than make the decision on his own then he isn't ready to purchase anyway. OP seems to be in it for the wrong reasons, at least imo.

fooey · 14 January 2020, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 904VT

I wouldn't take your comments as snobby in any way. Quite honestly, if the OP needs to ask others which watch to get rather than make the decision on his own then he isn't ready to purchase anyway. OP seems to be in it for the wrong reasons, at least imo.

There's nothing wrong with a little advice along the way!
i'm pretty new to this game and i find this site and the knowledge of some of the guys on here amazing!
lately i spend more time reading on here than i do with the misses!

ap1 · 14 January 2020, 04:16 AM

I like that TT better than a sub soo yes, take it

m j b · 14 January 2020, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cesium137

It’s not about watch enthusiasts being snobs. It’s about men having the fortitude to make their own decisions. My advice, don’t buy a Rolex. You’re not ready

Aside from being rather harsh, I don't think it's appropriate. "Not ready?" It's a freakin' watch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by htc8p

AD is just trying to pull you in...imho...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mas12

Bottom line is do not rush into it and do not buy just cause you have the opportunity to do so. Follow your gut!

Another upwards facing thumb.

My 2 cents: TT is lovely, but it's flashy and not everyone wants that. The iconic sub is about as low key as you can get with a stainless steel Swiss watch.

$17K is an awful lot of money to spend on a whim. Heck, so is $10K. Even in Loonies.

Take your time. You're young, there is no hurry.

m3tek44 · 14 January 2020, 05:25 AM

Just like yourself I am newbie to watches. I narrowed down to two model (Batman/Explore) and picked up Batman 116710BLNR. Love it. End of the day your going to wear it so go with what YOU LIKE.

904VT · 14 January 2020, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fooey

There's nothing wrong with a little advice along the way!
i'm pretty new to this game and i find this site and the knowledge of some of the guys on here amazing!
lately i spend more time reading on here than i do with the misses!

That may be a good way to get a veto on the next purchase

jk

But the forums are great to learn how watches work and specifics to each model. Just my perspective but if you need to ask others which watch to get, that is just asking for a regrettable purchase. You need to come to terms on your own with which watch you want to get, otherwise you will never truly be happy.

WRISTROLEX · 14 January 2020, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 904VT

That may be a good way to get a veto on the next purchase

jk

But the forums are great to learn how watches work and specifics to each model. Just my perspective but if you need to ask others which watch to get, that is just asking for a regrettable purchase. You need to come to terms on your own with which watch you want to get, otherwise you will never truly be happy.

So, researching, making my choice, and buying before finding this site was OK?

I really wished that I'd come here first but the minute a tried on a Daytona I knew. As you boys often refer to "IT SANG TO ME"! Such a lovely song!

Let's hear from this OP!

Rolex_AG · 14 January 2020, 05:53 AM

OP, did you buy the TT CHNR???

nr1416 · 14 January 2020, 06:58 AM

Came back to this thread today to see the outcome.....

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Parapraxis · 14 January 2020, 08:08 AM

UPDATE:

Hey all, thanks so much for all of the help everyone provided me. I took the perspectives raised here, along with my own, to my AD today.

He was very open and honest with me. He didn't pressure me. We talked for 45 minutes about all things Rolex before looking at the watch. He told me to only buy it if I love it.

When I tried it on again today, I still felt it was a stunner. It suited me very well, more than a sub would. To be honest, the only other Rolex I've looked in at awe has been the white dial Daytona. As much as I'd like a sub, Hulk, Pepsi or batman: I'm just in it for the hype with those watches, I don't find them particularly good looking. So with all that being said. I followed my heart and made the purchase.

This was a roller coaster of an experience filled with confusion, but for my first Rolex I wouldn't want it any other way. I'm now looking back on it all with a smile, what an experience. I think she's a beauty and I'm proud to have her on my wrist. Thank you all again for your help and I look to be an active member on this forum!

logo · 14 January 2020, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

UPDATE:

Hey all, thanks so much for all of the help everyone provided me. I took the perspectives raised here, along with my own, to my AD today.

He was very open and honest with me. He didn't pressure me. We talked for 45 minutes about all things Rolex before looking at the watch. He told me to only buy it if I love it.

When I tried it on again today, I still felt it was a stunner. It suited me very well, more than a sub would. To be honest, the only other Rolex I've looked in at awe has been the white dial Daytona. As much as I'd like a sub, Hulk, Pepsi or batman: I'm just in it for the hype with those watches, I don't find them particularly good looking. So with all that being said. I followed my heart and made the purchase.

This was a roller coaster of an experience filled with confusion, but for my first Rolex I wouldn't want it any other way. I'm now looking it back on it all with a smile, what an experience. I think she's a beauty and I'm proud to have her on my wrist. Thank you all again for your help and I look to be an active member on this forum!

Whoa whoa whoa ...... we need pictures!!!!! And Congratulations! Sounds like you were able to put all the noise aside and pick what you like - well done!

13 January 2020, 10:55 PM	#101
jpcwon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: John Location: North Easton, MA Watch: 114060, Lg Reverso Posts: 199	In my opinion, you're at least doing it right by jumping in head first and acquiring a desirable piece that will stay in demand for a long time. I can't tell you how many thousands I lost by buying cheapo "beginner" watches that you'll be basically stuck with if you ever decide to sell them. Ultimately you should buy what you like, but there's something to be said for going straight for the good stuff IMO ;) Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk __________________ Rolex Submariner No Date 114060 Jaeger-LeCoultre Large Reverso

14 January 2020, 01:01 AM	#108
mas12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: DC Metro Watch: 116610LN Posts: 384	I think it's possible you would have researched and loved any watch they would have offered you... just because you know how hard it is to get a SS sports model nowadays. I thought I wanted a BLNR first back in late 2016, had an offer to buy one in 2017 from AD but wasn't ready to pull the trigger. Gave myself a few months to think about what I truly wanted and actually settled on a Sub. I expressed interest in mid-2018 and purchased in Nov 2018. Don't regret choosing the Sub over BLNR as my first one bit. I also had an opportunity to buy a DSSD that I turned down. Bottom line is do not rush into it and do not buy just cause you have the opportunity to do so. Follow your gut! __________________ Current Collection: Rolex SubC 116610LN

13 January 2020, 02:17 PM	#91
007timer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: US Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,383	Look, it’s obvious that have spent some time contemplating what watch you want and had set out for a Submariner. The GMT has an additional complication and is a TT. Not something you can compare. I agree that the GMT is very nice and not as flashy as you might think. In person it’s a very nice watch. Don’t let the pressure of building a relationship with an AD deviate you from your plans. If you do so, you will always feel that you were taken. If you like the GMT in its own merit and you will wear it, then go for it. TT in general is less popular than SS or solid PM watches. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 January 2020, 06:08 PM	#94
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,473	AD is just trying to pull you in...imho...as a beginner i would go with the SS Sub and see how you like it

13 January 2020, 07:31 PM	#95
nevergiveup Banned Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: island Posts: 99	Slow down, wait for the sub please !

13 January 2020, 07:40 PM	#96
Yaz "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: GVA Watch: Rolex 16710 Posts: 1,631	GMT and Sub are different but I may say "equally respected" (using your words). I think it is more about your feelings than building a relationship with your AD. If you love the watch, go for it. If not, wait for your Sub as your first Rolex watch. To me, buying a watch is an emotional act, you need to get this adrenaline and more important, you need to love it, otherwise, you will not wear it as you have to. I had a couple of Rolex from vintage to modern, and other brands, but the one I bought three years ago (a modest OP39 114300 Dark Rhodium) is maybe my favorite emotional purchase. Over the 16710 Coke that I love, the 1603 Wide Boy or the 16570 Polar. I just walked by Bucherer Geneva one day after work, I was tired and just looking at this watch : whoa ! Get inside, ask to wear it and booom ! On my wrist. I love wearing it time to time. So pull the trigger on the one you want, the one you'll wear proudly, and the one which celebrate his important milestone o n your life, because we live only once !

13 January 2020, 07:44 PM	#97
Yaz "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: GVA Watch: Rolex 16710 Posts: 1,631	Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

13 January 2020, 10:02 PM	#98
Giangos "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: WG BLRO, Sub C, WG Posts: 1,657	I have both and love them for different reasons. Both get wear and I’m glad to have them too. I don’t think you can go wrong with either. If you pass it will show your AD that you are serious about getting what you want and I think it’s likely they will get you a sub. However .... if you want to build a collection over time. I’d get this one now and wait for the sub. Passing this time for the sub might mean you never get offered the CHNR again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 January 2020, 10:43 PM	#100
Muxi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,823	Two-tones can be quite a refreshing sight to behold in a sea of SS. Maybe yes.

14 January 2020, 12:02 AM	#103
Rolex_AG "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: United States Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 510	Make sure it absolutely sings to you! If you think you are settling even if it is 1%, don't do it. You will regret the decision to not wait for what you really want.

14 January 2020, 12:33 AM	#104
Podmornica Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: EU Posts: 806	If you are willing to stretch that much for an CHNR, why not consider the 126710BLRO or BLNR on the gray market or sale section of the forum? They are not to be found "everywhere" like the Submariners and are very easy to team with formal to casual attire.

14 January 2020, 12:36 AM	#105
Golfbone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 700	Go take a look at it....try it on and see if it moves you. If not...wait for what you want ....exactly what you want. There is no rush.

14 January 2020, 12:39 AM	#106
rolexest Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Canada Watch: ya gunna do Posts: 508	Wait for the sub.

14 January 2020, 12:43 AM	#107
Geckobros "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Arrakis Posts: 874	For me it has to be love at first sight or I am just not doing it. With that being said, there are some "historic" pieces I do want in my collection but they tend to be shoved down the list. As others have mentioned, don't buy it "just because it's available" as you will probably regret it and have to deal with the hassle of flipping it. "I should have gotten..."

14 January 2020, 02:42 AM	#109
fooey "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: marco Location: UK Watch: Quite a few now! Posts: 1,324	well....did you buy it? i bet he did! hard to let a watch like that go!

14 January 2020, 04:16 AM	#112
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,546	I like that TT better than a sub soo yes, take it

14 January 2020, 05:25 AM	#114
m3tek44 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: this Posts: 1,286	Just like yourself I am newbie to watches. I narrowed down to two model (Batman/Explore) and picked up Batman 116710BLNR. Love it. End of the day your going to wear it so go with what YOU LIKE.

14 January 2020, 05:53 AM	#117
Rolex_AG "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: United States Watch: Daytona 116500LN Posts: 510	OP, did you buy the TT CHNR???

14 January 2020, 06:58 AM	#118
nr1416 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NA Posts: 774	Came back to this thread today to see the outcome..... Sent from my SM-G975W using Tapatalk

14 January 2020, 08:08 AM	#119
Parapraxis "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 717	UPDATE: Hey all, thanks so much for all of the help everyone provided me. I took the perspectives raised here, along with my own, to my AD today. He was very open and honest with me. He didn't pressure me. We talked for 45 minutes about all things Rolex before looking at the watch. He told me to only buy it if I love it. When I tried it on again today, I still felt it was a stunner. It suited me very well, more than a sub would. To be honest, the only other Rolex I've looked in at awe has been the white dial Daytona. As much as I'd like a sub, Hulk, Pepsi or batman: I'm just in it for the hype with those watches, I don't find them particularly good looking. So with all that being said. I followed my heart and made the purchase. This was a roller coaster of an experience filled with confusion, but for my first Rolex I wouldn't want it any other way. I'm now looking back on it all with a smile, what an experience. I think she's a beauty and I'm proud to have her on my wrist. Thank you all again for your help and I look to be an active member on this forum!

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