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Old 15 September 2020, 03:29 AM   #91
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I'd do it. If you want a Kermit, why not? A Daytona is a Daytona. You strip the prestige away from it and it isn't a super interesting watch, especially in SS.

I'd do the trade.
A Sub is a Sub... Strip the green bezel off and what do you have... So what's your rationale there?

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The part I agree is if that is the watch he wants, sure consider a trade but perhaps something that would make the deal more balanced under today's conditions (i.e. cash going your way).
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Old 16 September 2020, 01:50 AM   #92
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A Sub is a Sub... Strip the green bezel off and what do you have... So what's your rationale there?

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The part I agree is if that is the watch he wants, sure consider a trade but perhaps something that would make the deal more balanced under today's conditions (i.e. cash going your way).

Agreed. That's why I could never do the Pepsi grey.
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Old 16 September 2020, 01:51 AM   #93
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Old 16 September 2020, 01:53 AM   #94
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Just shows what hype does to watch persons. You have a perfect watch in Daytona SS, which is modern classic and now you are chasing vintage(not that old) classic just coz of the hype! Kermit is good watch, no doubt but not at $25K.
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Old 16 September 2020, 01:56 AM   #95
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I guess I’m in the minority, but if the Flat 4 is complete and mint I’d trade in a heartbeat.
You can get a Daytona C black whenever.
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Old 16 September 2020, 01:58 AM   #96
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I'd do it. If you want a Kermit, why not? A Daytona is a Daytona. You strip the prestige away from it and it isn't a super interesting watch, especially in SS.

I'd do the trade.
Lol. You strip the 'prestige' away from Daytona? So, you accept Daytona has prestige. Daytona not being super interesting? The only Chronograph automatic movement, Rolex makes and one of the best in that range is not interesting besides being super popular?

So, throwing in a green bezel to Sub is more 'interesting'?
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Old 16 September 2020, 01:59 AM   #97
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You can get a Daytona C black whenever.
Yes, you can get Daytona whenever and twice on Sunday dreams!
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Old 16 September 2020, 02:12 AM   #98
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If I may ask an ignorant question. What is the attraction for a flat 4 Kermit versus a non flat 4?


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Old 16 September 2020, 02:16 AM   #99
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Flat no.
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Old 16 September 2020, 02:28 AM   #100
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If I may ask an ignorant question. What is the attraction for a flat 4 Kermit versus a non flat 4?


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Rarity and flat 4 is the real anniversary Kermit...
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Old 16 September 2020, 02:41 AM   #101
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Questions...

1) Is this a straight trade or need of cash either way?

2) Are you a collector? Will these watches be worn?

Peanut Gallery: Please hold judgement on this. There are people who collect watches and don't wear them to preserve condition. Same as with comic books who don't read them..cars who dont drive them..etc.

If you are indeed a collector, then move on to Question 2. If not and you want to wear the Kermit...PASS. Daytona is a better watch and you can get a non flat 4 kermit for much less to wear.

Question 2: Is the Kermit unpolished with a 100% Mint and crisp set? I mean absolutely everything present and intact? Does it include the receipt?

If yes and straight trade: Trade Approved. if NO: PASS.
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Old 16 September 2020, 03:00 AM   #102
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Rarity and flat 4 is the real anniversary Kermit...

I still don’t understand?


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Old 16 September 2020, 03:00 AM   #103
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I got an offer to exchange my 2018 mint Daytona 500C black dial for a 2004 Kermit Flat 4 mint full set. I am interested in the original Kermit as well as the new Kermit and this is a Flat 4 piece but is it a good deal? Would appreciate your opinions.

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Old 16 September 2020, 04:16 AM   #104
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No. Daytona is still king.
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Old 16 September 2020, 02:24 PM   #105
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I definitely would not.
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Old 16 September 2020, 03:15 PM   #106
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I would do it.

Flat 4 full set, box and papers cost more than a new daytona C...
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Old 16 September 2020, 03:37 PM   #107
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If you want to get sucked into the hype go ahead and do it. IMHO, it's like downgrading from a BMW M3 to a regular 3 series.
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Old 16 September 2020, 04:51 PM   #108
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If you want to get sucked into the hype go ahead and do it. IMHO, it's like downgrading from a BMW M3 to a regular 3 series.

Unless the regular 3 series has flat tyres.


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Old 16 September 2020, 05:11 PM   #109
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Someone decided many years ago that the 4 on the Kermit looked a bit fat (or flat) and all of a sudden it’s worth more to collectors! I know this happens to a lot of old watches but this isn’t a Paul Newman.

Terrible trade. Keep and enjoy the 500.
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Old 16 September 2020, 06:17 PM   #110
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omg is this thread still going? lol
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Old 16 September 2020, 06:30 PM   #111
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Without knowing the purchase history and the $$’s in the trade of the Daytona this is a tough call?

AD retail in Oz or Grey?

At the end of day it’s your choice of watch.

These prices are now out of control.

I am amazed at the current value of my old 16610LV ‘M’ and Daytona SS ‘M’.
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Old 16 September 2020, 06:51 PM   #112
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A Sub is a Sub... Strip the green bezel off and what do you have... So what's your rationale there?

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The part I agree is if that is the watch he wants, sure consider a trade but perhaps something that would make the deal more balanced under today's conditions (i.e. cash going your way).
And a Daytona is a Daytona......
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Old 16 September 2020, 07:11 PM   #113
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Just shows what hype does to watch persons. You have a perfect watch in Daytona SS, which is modern classic and now you are chasing vintage(not that old) classic just coz of the hype! Kermit is good watch, no doubt but not at $25K.
If we're talking hype, the Daytona is only a $25k watch because of the hype Nothing Rolex has made in the past 20 years is more hyped than a steel Daytona.

If the OP bought his Daytona new that's a very cheap LV to him.

If the OP bought grey, then not such a smart move financially
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Old 16 September 2020, 08:38 PM   #114
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A Sub is a Sub... Strip the green bezel off and what do you have... So what's your rationale there?

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The part I agree is if that is the watch he wants, sure consider a trade but perhaps something that would make the deal more balanced under today's conditions (i.e. cash going your way).
Silly quote. So then who cares about a Pepsi, coke, Batman etc etc. They are just colored dials of a GMT. Kermit will be way less produced, Daytona is a dime a dozen. The Kermit will likely (just speculation) increase in value more than the Daytona if you are in this hobby for investment. The Kermit will be easier to read when you get old like me.

It really is personal choice, both great watches but to say it is just a colored sub
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Old 16 September 2020, 08:40 PM   #115
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Old 16 September 2020, 08:41 PM   #116
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Old 16 September 2020, 08:56 PM   #117
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A very hard no.
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Old 16 September 2020, 08:57 PM   #118
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Just to add to the chorus, nope!!!
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Old 16 September 2020, 11:13 PM   #119
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I got an offer to exchange my 2018 mint Daytona 500C black dial for a 2004 Kermit Flat 4 mint full set. I am interested in the original Kermit as well as the new Kermit and this is a Flat 4 piece but is it a good deal? Would appreciate your opinions.
If it is serial Y all stickers go for it !
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Old 16 September 2020, 11:25 PM   #120
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Not a chance!

I used to own a 5 digit LV and it’s no where near the watch a daytona is


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