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[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by dpt.calvin

I’m certain most Subs (for example) get their dings and scratches from daily wear (vs their “intended use” of diving). That’s like me being proud of dings and scratches on my daily driver.

If you have a “tool” car and it shows wear from using the tool as intended, bravo. Same goes for a tool watch. I just highly suspect most (not all) people here do not get their dings and scratches from using watches for their intended tool purposes, but rather daily wear (and then tout about the use and abuse it’s gone through when that use and abuse often equates to banging the dang thing on a desktop).

You do understand that a watches primary job is to tell the wearer the time whenever and wherever they are, right? Sub’s were meant to be capable and useful for divers but they weren’t intended for wear ONLY underwater, that’d be poor decision making and would severely limit Rolex sales.

I don’t particularly care how you wear your watch or how you don’t. I’m amazed though at how many get triggered and distraught by others treatment of their own possessions. Do you guys almost have a stroke when a POS drives by you with cracked windshield, different colored and dented/scratched body panels? Or is it a little tinge of jealousy brewing inside you all that someone can wear an expensive watch or drive an expensive vehicle and not care about it meanwhile yours is at home on a pedestal?

One last question, since others watches are jewelry and should be treated as such. When your wives/so’s wear their ring doing laundry or cleaning the kitchen do you make them take it off? I can see it now “Honey, how many times have I told you not to cook with your ring on?! I spent lots of money on that and you see how I treat my watches. Go put it in the safe and then come back and finish so it won’t get scratched.”


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[Driver8]

What I never understand with these threads is that there's never any middle ground in the responses. It's always the same - if people like to put stickers on their watches then they must obviously have plastic sofa covers at home, and wrap their cars in bubble-wrap. And if they don't put stickers on their watches, then they're clearly just smashing the hell out of their watches and have no respect for them.

It is possible to walk a middle path here guys!

On a personal note, I'd never put stickers on my watch because it looks like you haven't unwrapped it yet, and I think seeing plastic all over it ruins the aesthetic. I can't see the point of having a compromised look to your watch, just so it can be mint for the next guy. I personally want to enjoy the aesthetic of my watches as they were intended - i.e. no plastic on them.

However, no matter how much people want to convince themselves otherwise, Rolex (and other luxury watches) have moved far beyond the tool watch ethos of yesteryear. In the 50's, 60's and 70's they were used in tough environments because there was no other option. Yes they were expensive then, but today they are proportionately considerably more expensive, and for all the talk of "tool watches", they are now functional jewellery that can also handle fairly tough stuff if required.

I personally just don't see the point of using an expensive watch in a situation where you frankly don't need to these days. I must be honest but I always find the talk of describing scratches, scuffs, dings and dents as 'character' and 'memories' absolutely hilarious! (If that was the case I'd describe my g/f's alloy wheels as some of the most 'characterful' around!). I personally want my memories stored in my brain, not beaten into my 5 figure watch, thanks!

That said, each to their own, and if people want to either cover their Rolex in bubble-wrap, or use it to hammer nails into concrete, then that's entirely their prerogative. Enjoy your watches however you want guys!

[Watchsama]

Never gets old

[dpt.calvin]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

You do understand that a watches primary job is to tell the wearer the time whenever and wherever they are, right? Sub’s were meant to be capable and useful for divers but they weren’t intended for wear ONLY underwater, that’d be poor decision making and would severely limit Rolex sales.

I don’t particularly care how you wear your watch or how you don’t. I’m amazed though at how many get triggered and distraught by others treatment of their own possessions. Do you guys almost have a stroke when a POS drives by you with cracked windshield, different colored and dented/scratched body panels? Or is it a little tinge of jealousy brewing inside you all that someone can wear an expensive watch or drive an expensive vehicle and not care about it meanwhile yours is at home on a pedestal?

One last question, since others watches are jewelry and should be treated as such. When your wives/so’s wear their ring doing laundry or cleaning the kitchen do you make them take it off? I can see it now “Honey, how many times have I told you not to cook with your ring on?! I spent lots of money on that and you see how I treat my watches. Go put it in the safe and then come back and finish so it won’t get scratched.”


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It’s quite the opposite. I put the clear wrap on my watches so that I can wear them with some peace of mind rather than leave them at home. I know the films are not fool proof and won’t protect against any major damage, but I paid maybe $15 for my film and it does the trick. Maybe a false sense of security.

Actually, lots of people these days wear silicone rings while their wedding/engagement rings sit in the safe.

[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by dpt.calvin

It’s quite the opposite. I put the clear wrap on my watches so that I can wear them with some peace of mind rather than leave them at home. I know the films are not fool proof and won’t protect against any major damage, but I paid maybe $15 for my film and it does the trick. Maybe a false sense of security.

Actually, lots of people these days wear silicone rings while their wedding/engagement rings sit in the safe.

I guess the only peace of mind I need to wear my watch, is that I have a capable watch that’s been proven for decades on my wrist.

I’ve never seen a woman wear a silicone ring. I’d go no ring before going silicone.


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[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by fed_fan

It’s the watch equivalent of a golfer having iron covers lol

Iron covers .


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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by Watchsama

Never gets old

I love this one.

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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

You do understand that a watches primary job is to tell the wearer the time whenever and wherever they are, right? Sub’s were meant to be capable and useful for divers but they weren’t intended for wear ONLY underwater, that’d be poor decision making and would severely limit Rolex sales.

I don’t particularly care how you wear your watch or how you don’t. I’m amazed though at how many get triggered and distraught by others treatment of their own possessions. Do you guys almost have a stroke when a POS drives by you with cracked windshield, different colored and dented/scratched body panels? Or is it a little tinge of jealousy brewing inside you all that someone can wear an expensive watch or drive an expensive vehicle and not care about it meanwhile yours is at home on a pedestal?

One last question, since others watches are jewelry and should be treated as such. When your wives/so’s wear their ring doing laundry or cleaning the kitchen do you make them take it off? I can see it now “Honey, how many times have I told you not to cook with your ring on?! I spent lots of money on that and you see how I treat my watches. Go put it in the safe and then come back and finish so it won’t get scratched.”


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I threw up a little in my mouth. Finances again and the PART ABOUT THE WIFE. Oh God give me strength!!!

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[padi56]

Originally Posted by Watchsama

Never gets old

And how very very very true today.

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by Watchsama

Never gets old

Hilarious!

[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

I threw up a little in my mouth. Finances again and the PART ABOUT THE WIFE. Oh God give me strength!!!

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Just like you presumably do when you see others watches with scratches? I’d suggest getting with your Physician, it could be a problem.

The wife comment and the “finance” comment (I guess because I said expensive watch or car) shouldn’t have offended you unless they touched a nerve. People talk about finances all day long around here, I was merely creating a hypothetical situation that made sense of your posts. The wife thing was more of a joke but in this thread you specifically equated watches to jewelry therefore I felt it was a relevant question and a little funny.

I’d ask God for reading comprehension skills instead of strength.

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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

Just like you presumably do when you see others watches with scratches? I’d suggest getting with your Physician, it could be a problem.

The wife comment and the finance comment shouldn’t have offended you unless they touched a nerve. People talk about finances all day long around here. The wife thing was more of a joke but in this thread you specifically equated watched to jewelry therefore I felt it was a relevant question.


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Please, stop with the incoherent posts. You're spewing nonsense about mental health, finances, spouses with extremely peculiar and irrelevant hypotheticals or stories -- I really don't know what you are doing or saying.

If you would have struck a nerve with me, you would have received a different reaction.

I'll leave you with this my friend: whatever is bothering you in life, eradicate it. Enjoy your watches and life in the manner in which you choose. It's a free world. Be well.

Edit: my dear, I just looked at your post history, with the most recent post about your family issues and drama, that you actually ended up deleting. I truly feel for you, and I know everyone has their problems.

Your other post indicates that you consume alcohol on a daily basis, up to seven alcoholic beverages a day. These are actually very serious issues, and go far beyond preferences on how to enjoy watches. You are Not alone, especially during these difficult times. If you have already not considered seeking professional help to assist in some sort of intervention, please consider it.

Hoping mental health for you and yours, and that all of your problems get sorted out, including but not limited to your family issues.

Take care

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[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Guys guys please don't post these pictures.... It infuriates many of the users on here, not because they are necessarily against it, but because of damage caused to their jewelry timepiece that they cannot reverse, and now they have to convince themselves that there is something wrong with what you are doing or that they have to convince themselves that they are happy about their damaged jewelry, or SCAR marks, that it builds character, or better yet memories or that they are magically going to have Rolex service center refinish the watch without any sign or traceable change to the factory finish or sharp corners/edges.

Well, here is one. PCL looking REEEEEAL clean!!!!!

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Well said.

When I'm retorting against people spewing judgment against me and some of the other members who enjoy pristine condition watches and place protective stickers.

I truly honest to God cringe when I see the way some of the members treat their timepieces. It's almost on purpose, like they were about your pride beating these shiny timepieces that should be looked after. The same people say quite strange and peculiar things like, these are memories, it gives it character, etc.

I'll tell you what, pick 5,000 people who want to take over a watch, the overwhelming majority or probably almost all of them would take over my timepieces, including those people passing judgment, but they would never want the other beaten watches.

Unfortunately, for them, none of my watches are for sale and they will never go on sale. I'll join my watches, stickers, in pristine condition, and all.

But well said by you. Be well.

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Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Do you put plastic slipcovers on your couch too?

Ummm, heck no. That's extremely uncomfortable and noisy when you sit on it. And it's ridiculous. This analogy is really really old, and it doesn't work out too well. Don't worry other fellow members have tried to send pictures of plastic couches and draw an analogy, it doesn't work too well.

I always refer back to high-end cars, high-end bikes, has better analogies.

Do you buy toys for children and force them to leave them mint in box and not play with them?

This is really really telling -- drawing comparisons or attempting to analogize kids with toys and adults with high-end shiny luxury watches. I buy plenty of toys for my kids. God bless them. They enjoy them how they please. This one was really concerning for me. This one was really bad. Please don't do it again.

I don't really do double negatives by the way. But yeah, you don't know my finances, sweetheart. We learn things everyday. Don't talk about and assume anything about another man's personal finances. Not only is it poor form, but it belittles you, and you may often be wrong in your assumptions. Just a thought for your real, personal life, for the many decades you will remain on earth, God willing.

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Originally Posted by JacksonRain

You're lying to yourself my friend

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Originally Posted by JacksonRain

You're wrong --- sorry that you attempted but failed to keep your jewelry in pristine condition...I get it. Not all of my timepieces are in almost perfect condition, I have some beaters myself.

You know the beauty of all of this? That I have relaxed a lot and wear many of my watches every single day. The thing is that these protectors protected against desk dives and other damage.

I really love it.... And I thought my post makes it quite clear that the majority is clearly against it and makes fun of it. There is no denying that. There are a lot of people catching on, however.

I was throwing shade tacos that pass judgment, with damaged jewelry, that have no regard or little regard regarding the condition of their watches, or somehow take a peculiar pride in beating their watches.

One last thing ... I definitely do not have OCD about a lot of things, I'm chill when it comes to cars, when it comes to most other personal possessions. I am OCD about these beautiful shiny jewelry timepieces that I wear everyday, stare at multiple times a day, and adore. I'm obsessed and have been for quite a few years. I have been to watches since I was a little kid, before my dad gave you my first rolex. I've been into a mechanical watches for a couple of decades, I used to buy them overseas from Asia, and I would have an assortment of different styles and colors. This is not a new thing my love.

Enjoy brother

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Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Like look at this character above assuming things about my finances, sitting behind a computer or typing away with his fingers talking about another's man's/strangers pockets without knowing anything whatsoever.

Giving it to these people gives me great pride and joy

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Please see above and refresh your memory of your own posts in this thread. Then edit your last two directed at me so you don’t look like a hypocrite.


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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

Please see above and refresh your memory of your own posts in this thread. Then edit your last two directed at me so you don’t look like a hypocrite.


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Please see above, my friend. I do not think it's healthy to go on, and I do not have the heart to shut you down any longer.

If I offended you in any way, then my kindness regrets. Sending you my best Friday regards. Get well and take care.

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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

Please see above and refresh your memory of your own posts in this thread. Then edit your last two directed at me so you don’t look like a hypocrite.


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Please, stop with the incoherent posts. You're spewing nonsense about mental health, finances, spouses with extremely peculiar and irrelevant hypotheticals or stories -- I really don't know what you are doing or saying.

If you would have struck a nerve with me, you would have received a different reaction.

I'll leave you with this my friend: whatever is bothering you in life, eradicate it. Enjoy your watches and life in the manner in which you choose. It's a free world. Be well.

Edit: my dear, I just looked at your post history, with the most recent post about your family issues and drama, that you actually ended up deleting. I truly feel for you, and I know everyone has their problems.

Your other post indicates that you consume alcohol on a daily basis, up to seven alcoholic beverages a day. These are actually very serious issues, and go far beyond preferences on how to enjoy watches. You are Not alone, especially during these difficult times. If you have already not considered seeking professional help to assist in some sort of intervention, please consider it.

Hoping mental health for you and yours, and that all of your problems get sorted out, including but not limited to your family issues.

Take care

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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Driver8

What I never understand with these threads is that there's never any middle ground in the responses. It's always the same - if people like to put stickers on their watches then they must obviously have plastic sofa covers at home, and wrap their cars in bubble-wrap. And if they don't put stickers on their watches, then they're clearly just smashing the hell out of their watches and have no respect for them.

It is possible to walk a middle path here guys!

On a personal note, I'd never put stickers on my watch because it looks like you haven't unwrapped it yet, and I think seeing plastic all over it ruins the aesthetic. I can't see the point of having a compromised look to your watch, just so it can be mint for the next guy. I personally want to enjoy the aesthetic of my watches as they were intended - i.e. no plastic on them.

However, no matter how much people want to convince themselves otherwise, Rolex (and other luxury watches) have moved far beyond the tool watch ethos of yesteryear. In the 50's, 60's and 70's they were used in tough environments because there was no other option. Yes they were expensive then, but today they are proportionately considerably more expensive, and for all the talk of "tool watches", they are now functional jewellery that can also handle fairly tough stuff if required.

I personally just don't see the point of using an expensive watch in a situation where you frankly don't need to these days. I must be honest but I always find the talk of describing scratches, scuffs, dings and dents as 'character' and 'memories' absolutely hilarious! (If that was the case I'd describe my g/f's alloy wheels as some of the most 'characterful' around!). I personally want my memories stored in my brain, not beaten into my 5 figure watch, thanks!

That said, each to their own, and if people want to either cover their Rolex in bubble-wrap, or use it to hammer nails into concrete, then that's entirely their prerogative. Enjoy your watches however you want guys!

This is really well stated. I agree, to each their own

[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Please see above, my friend. I do not think it's healthy to go on, and I do not have the heart to shut you down any longer.

If I offended you in any way, then my kindness regrets. Sending you my best Friday regards. Get well and take care.

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I believe you’re quite delusional if you truly believe you’re “shutting me down” it actually appears to be the opposite.

Classy move blasting my (presumed by you) issues that are completely unrelated to this thread though. I’d prefer to not accept your regards or your well wishes as they’re probably as baseless as every comment you’ve rebutted me with on this thread.


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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

I believe you’re quite delusional if you truly believe you’re “shutting me down” it actually appears to be the opposite.

Classy move blasting my (presumed by you) issues that are completely unrelated to this thread though. I’d prefer to not accept your regards or your well wishes as they’re probably as baseless as every comment you’ve rebutted me with on this thread.


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They are relevant since you proposed seeking some sort of professional help by a physician, and I assumed you meant mental health Medical professional.

I suspected that there may be somethings going on, perhaps very serious, in your own personal life. Without much effort, I found two very serious issues/topics.

I did not mean to embarrass you or make you feel uncomfortable. These are posts, though personal in nature, they are things that you disclosed in a public forum -- in fact on the very same forum -- one about your family issues and "drama" and the other one about alcohol consumption. You indicated that you consume alcohol on a daily basis, up to seven beverages a day. Admitting that there is a problem is the first step.

Again, I'll send you my regards, and please note that they are well intentioned. Take care and get well.

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[brucethemanlee]

Originally Posted by Watchsama

Never gets old

LOL


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[airchitect]

Originally Posted by Watchsama

Never gets old

Insanely true


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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by airchitect

Insanely true


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Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

LOL


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Absolutely true. And that's because the overwhelming majority of purchasers are not buying a submariner to go diving, many of them won't even see a pool. Purchasers are not interested in explorers to use them to go mountain climbing. It's a luxury watch, no longer a tool watch. For better or worse, this is the reality of the game and hobby for most.

The users photographed on the top picture were not users who would conduct photo shoots of their personal collection, in perfect condition and mint order, on public forums for strangers, collecting the most sought after and coveted stainless steel watches, and asking questions like: are these five stainless steel pieces enough. Now, I love those posts, they are in line with my way of collecting.

Different times, indeed!

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[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

They are relevant since you proposed seeking some sort of professional help by a physician, and I assumed you meant mental health Medical professional.

I suspected that there may be somethings going on, perhaps very serious, in your own personal life. Without much effort, I found two very serious issues/topics.

I did not mean to embarrass you or make you feel uncomfortable. These are posts, though personal in nature, they are things that you disclosed in a public forum -- in fact on the very same forum -- one about your family issues and "drama" and the other one about alcohol consumption. You indicated that you consume alcohol on a daily basis, up to seven beverages a day. Admitting that there is a problem is the first step.

Again, I'll send you my regards, and please note that they are well intentioned. Take care and get well.

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Oh it’s all good. I have very little to no shame, I do have class though. That must elude you like intestinal fortitude. This is where the reading comprehension I mentioned earlier comes in. When someone quotes your posts they’re responding to that post. Therefore simple deduction would have shown the physician comment was about you saying you threw up in your mouth a little.

The fact that you doubled down and feel you’re somehow above me is comical at best. It’s also comical you believe you’re a mental health professional diagnosing patients by dissecting their posts.

Have fun with your stickers, I will try to remember to put a warning before I post pics of my “abused” sub so you can keep your lunch down.


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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

Oh it’s all good. I have very little to no shame, I do have class though. That must elude you like intestinal fortitude. This is where the reading comprehension I mentioned earlier comes in. When someone quotes your posts they’re responding to that post. Therefore simple deduction would have shown the physician comment was about you saying you threw up in your mouth a little.

The fact that you doubled down and feel you’re somehow above me is comical at best. It’s also comical you believe you’re a mental health professional diagnosing patients by dissecting their posts.

Have fun with your stickers, I will try to remember to put a warning before I post pics of my “abused” sub so you can keep your lunch down.


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Thank you, man. Take care

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[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by dpt.calvin

It’s quite the opposite. I put the clear wrap on my watches so that I can wear them with some peace of mind rather than leave them at home. I know the films are not fool proof and won’t protect against any major damage, but I paid maybe $15 for my film and it does the trick. Maybe a false sense of security.

Actually, lots of people these days wear silicone rings while their wedding/engagement rings sit in the safe.

That’s guys who work with their hands. It’s to protect their fingers, more than their rings. My son-in-law, a plumber, wears one, while working.


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[Goin2drt]

Originally Posted by Watchsama

Never gets old

Winner of post of the month. Nailed it.

I will leave one piece of advice for the sticker people. DO NOT buy a WG PM model, you will spend your days crying and figuring out how to cover the entire watch. Cliff note....they scratch really easily.

And just for good measure here is my WG Sub bracelet less than a year old so you can all quiver...

[dpt.calvin]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

That’s guys who work with their hands. It’s to protect their fingers, more than their rings. My son-in-law, a plumber, wears one, while working.


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Yes, your SIL example is the only scenario silicone rings are worn. Only guys wear silicone rings. Understood.

Anecdotal at best.

[Goin2drt]

Originally Posted by dpt.calvin

Actually, lots of people these days wear silicone rings while their wedding/engagement rings sit in the safe.

Like you said above. Anecdotal at best. EVERYONE I know that wears silicone is 1)ladies that don't like wearing a $15K+ diamond to welcome a thief - NOTHING to do with scratches and men who are not allowed to wear any metal at work as their rings barely cost anything or look like much. Neither have anything to do with protection from "wear marks".

Nice grasp though.

[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by Goin2drt

Winner of post of the month. Nailed it.



I will leave one piece of advice for the sticker people. DO NOT buy a WG PM model, you will spend your days crying and figuring out how to cover the entire watch. Cliff note....they scratch really easily.



And just for good measure here is my WG Sub bracelet less than a year old so you can all quiver...

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That's cute...WG YG PM and 904L don't have a significant difference in susceptibility to scratches. They are both prone to scratching, and the high polished areas are more prone to be quite visible.

I kept my yellow gold watch in pristine condition, actually, but didn't mind some scratches... I Did mind the polish job though. The polish job was before these scratches btw.

On the 5 digit sports the scratches without any major dings do kind of look badass. I just don't find the same applies to the modern examples, in my opinion.


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[dpt.calvin]

Originally Posted by goin2drt

like you said above. Anecdotal at best. Everyone i know that wears silicone is 1)ladies that don't like wearing a $15k+ diamond to welcome a thief - nothing to do with scratches and men who are not allowed to wear any metal at work as their rings barely cost anything or look like much. Neither have anything to do with protection from "wear marks".

Nice grasp though.

k.

[jcatt]

I really like the look of the contrast of the PCL with the rest being brushed on my modern Daytonas. That contrast goes away the more scratched the PCL's become, and it is for that reason alone that I would like to keep the PCL's as polished as possible.

On my brushed 16710 which is all brushed, I don't care at all about scratches, so let it be.

And my custom Daytona is all brushed, so again, not a care in the world.

Stickers are cheesy, so I'll just wear it with care, and let RSC take care of it every 5-8 yrs.