Hands-on and first impression of the Cubitus collection

[Rebel]

Great pics.

[Gamut]

Concerning the ad video, I wonder if it's natural or imaginable in some business culture for someone to give a colleague (who may also be a love interest) a platinum Patek as a surprise gift during a business party of some sort.

[itim]

Originally Posted by llngoc

After watching the marketing/ad video. I can understand that this is really a watch aimed at casual buyer who wants a Patek as a first "real" watch to mark/show that he'd arrived. The entire AD was full of young urban investment bankers type who are there to celebrate someone's birthday or first promotion. And the watch was there to mark the occasion.

But then the question now is: Why not just promote Aquanaut or Nautilius? I think they already are in this category in the mind share of the targeted audience.

First thing I was impressed with was the guy being given the Cubitus is a beta when his girlfriend(?) giving it is wearing a rainbow 7968R. She could have given him a 5811G if she thinks he's a keeper.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by itim

First thing I was impressed with was the guy being given the Cubitus is a beta when his girlfriend(?) giving it is wearing a rainbow 7968R. She could have given him a 5811G if she thinks he's a keeper.

I was actually confused if that was his mom or GF

[lutz]

when I was at the event we had the chance to talk to thierry a bit.
Regarding the case size he said that the movement (big date) could only fit in a case size of 43mm and up and that he decided on 45mm after testing 43/44/45

I was quite taken aback when the guy at the try on table told us it was 45mm (as I have a wrist size of about 16,5 cm). But after trying it on I‘d say what Ichiran said before. Since its L2L is only slightly bigger than the case, it‘s quite wearable even on a smaller wrist. One would need to get used to that wide face though..

Regarding the couple in the video, he mentioned that they actually became a couple after the shoot. Funny tidibit

[Roger Lococco]

Originally Posted by llngoc

I was actually confused if that was his mom or GF

The lady who gave him the watch is his Aunt.

[Yobrooks]

Thank you for posting the pictures. I usually dislike 2-toned watches, but I have to admit this is staying to grow on me. Looks super nice on the wrist.

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[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by Yobrooks

Thank you for posting the pictures. I usually dislike 2-toned watches, but I have to admit this is staying to grow on me. Looks super nice on the wrist.

I'm quite tanned maybe that's why the bezel colour works on my skin tone. Suggest to try at your AD it should be coming soon

[eanzenberg]

Let’s be honest. They enlarged the size for the man of advanced age to be able to see the watch without aid. Those are who buy Patek sports watches en masse.

With more marketing, our perception will change. Once Tom Brady and Leo are seen with this on, it will garner high demand.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

2 more pics.

It may just be the angle, but the date number does not appear to be centered well.

[Yobrooks]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

It may just be the angle, but the date number does not appear to be centered well.

Definitely just the angle. I've seen multiple different pics and the large date display is perfectly aligned.

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[helloworldies]

You can't just make a square Nautilus without provoking some cognitive dissonance.

Most of us have owned or just stared at photos of a Nautilus for so long now that when we perceive the Cubitus it just looks wrong.

My wife recently started wearing glasses and this is the same effect!

Guess we'll all get used to it.

[77T]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I tried on all 3 pieces at my AD earlier and here is my honest feedback. I tried on the green SS model first and it felt like a Nautilus, albeit with a wider case.

How is the case made compared to the Nautilus? What I mean is it the same construction method and fastening technology?

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I still prefer Nautilus over the Cubitus but who knows what happens later.

Yes, I don't think I can get over the Tag Heuer / Cartier Santos proportionality - never had a square watch.


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[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by 77T

How is the case made compared to the Nautilus? What I mean is it the same construction method and fastening technology?

According to Monochrome - "there is an undeniable connection between Cubitus and Nautilus. Putting both watches side by side would reveal obvious similarities and familiar traits, such as the two attachments, one on either side of the case (the famous hinges of the Nautilus), the two-part construction that was first seen in 1976 with the 3700, the overall shape of the lugs, at 12 and 6 o’clock, the profile, the embossed dial pattern, and even the bracelet."

https://monochrome-watches.com/patek...w-specs-price/

It is a 2-part construction similar to the original 3700, and the latest 5811, with hinge at the side.

I understand why square watches are not for everyone. I don't have one now but perception of watches could change over time.

[ts3]

Pics can be misleading but in this photo from the German forum the 5821 seems to wear a lot larger than 5711.

[~JJ]

^that huge bezel and ears will look pretty gnarled after a few months of real wear.

[Vasco]

Originally Posted by helloworldies

You can't just make a square Nautilus without provoking some cognitive dissonance.

Most of us have owned or just stared at photos of a Nautilus for so long now that when we perceive the Cubitus it just looks wrong.

My wife recently started wearing glasses and this is the same effect!

Guess we'll all get used to it.

+1, my take as well.

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I understand why square watches are not for everyone. I don't have one now but perception of watches could change over time.

My thoughts too.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by llngoc

Oh. This is actually a real Apple Watch watch face which you can install on it.

o..... m..... g.......

AI #winning

[Ichiran]

Re pricing of Cubitus, I would like to offer my perspective.

The cheapest men's Nautilus with bracelet in the collection is the 5712/1A at S$75,100. Obviously the 5712 has moonphase and power reserve and it is the more complicated watch. The 5821/1A is priced at S$59,700 and it will be the cheapest Nautilus by some 20% margin if it is listed as part of the Nautilus collection. The 5711 has been discontinued for more than 3 years and it will not be fair to compare apple-to-apple due to annual adjustments. The price of the 5726/1A has increased by 25% over the same time period. For precious metal Nautilus, my wife 7118 and my 5740 have both increased by 21-25% over the same time period.

For 5822P, the last platinum Nautilus (5711/1P) was released in 2016 (8 years ago) and the retail price was S$149,300. The 5711/1P is a limited edition and has a bracelet but the 5822P has grand date, day and moonphase. For annual adjustments, the price of the 5712/1A has increased approximately 80+% from 2016 to 2024. Comparing the price of the 5822P (S$128,000) to 8-year-old 5711/1P (S$149,300) and 2024 5811/1G (S$104,600), does that still sound exorbitant to you?

[Partekular]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Re pricing of Cubitus, I would like to offer my perspective.

The cheapest men's Nautilus with bracelet in the collection is the 5712/1A at S$75,100. Obviously the 5712 has moonphase and power reserve and it is the more complicated watch. The 5821/1A is priced at S$59,700 and it will be the cheapest Nautilus by some 20% margin if it is listed as part of the Nautilus collection. The 5711 has been discontinued for more than 3 years and it will not be fair to compare apple-to-apple due to annual adjustments. The price of the 5726/1A has increased by 25% over the same time period. For precious metal Nautilus, my wife 7118 and my 5740 have both increased by 21-25% over the same time period.

For 5822P, the last platinum Nautilus (5711/1P) was released in 2016 (8 years ago) and the retail price was S$149,300. The 5711/1P is a limited edition and has a bracelet but the 5822P has grand date, day and moonphase. For annual adjustments, the price of the 5712/1A has increased approximately 80+% from 2016 to 2024. Comparing the price of the 5822P (S$128,000) to 8-year-old 5711/1P (S$149,300) and 2024 5811/1G (S$104,600), does that still sound exorbitant to you?

Well done for pointing all that out for those who challenge the pricing.

I would add one point and one question:

The grand complication and complications I own have fallen in price (not that I would ever sell them) the 5172G and the 5230G. The Nautilus and Aquanauts have indeed been marked up on Watchcharts - for what that’s worth.

Are we supposed to consider the exquisite 5822P - a watch with a new complex mechanism cased in platinum, a superb horological creation with a baguette diamond, as ‘sports’ watch? It seems a stretch to me!

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by Partekular

Are we supposed to consider the exquisite 5822P - a watch with a new complex mechanism cased in platinum, a superb horological creation with a baguette diamond, as ‘sports’ watch? It seems a stretch to me!

If we consider a 5711/1P a sport watch, then Cubitus is 1 too given the shared DNA. That composite strap is not leather btw but I don't know what it is.

[Partekular]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

If we consider a 5711/1P a sport watch, then Cubitus is 1 too given the shared DNA. That composite strap is not leather btw but I don't know what it is.

Thanks for responding. I do not consider the 5711/1P a sports watch either …

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/patekphil...-57111p001.htm

I would definitely remove it before playing any energetic sport. And I wouldn’t trust it to my sports locker either. IMO a sport’s watch is tough enough and not so expensive that one can bash it about and not worry about dents and dings - so stainless steel or titanium and not platinum with a diamond baguette on the case.

[cascavel]

Originally Posted by eanzenberg

Let’s be honest. They enlarged the size for the man of advanced age to be able to see the watch without aid. Those are who buy Patek sports watches en masse.

With more marketing, our perception will change. Once Tom Brady and Leo are seen with this on, it will garner high demand.

Precisely, on both points.
This is exactly why my favorite Patek is the 5167/1A.
And the Cubitus will be Unavailable even before it is gifted to Brady and DiCaprio.

[rmlovett1]

Thank you for this information! Appreciate it!

[DonLee]

Originally Posted by ts3

Pics can be misleading but in this photo from the German forum the 5821 seems to wear a lot larger than 5711.

5mm wider from 10-4 really makes a difference. It's not the same size as a 45mm round watch, but maybe a 43mm.

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by DonLee

5mm wider from 10-4 really makes a difference. It's not the same size as a 45mm round watch, but maybe a 43mm.

It's not exactly a 43mm round watch though. The L2L is only 44.9mm which is smaller than most conventional watches with lugs. The issue is the width which people are not used to after the image of Nautilus deeply implanted in people's consciousness for more than 40 years.

[DonLee]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

It's not exactly a 43mm round watch though. The L2L is only 44.9mm which is smaller than most conventional watches with lugs. The issue is the width which people are not used to after the image of Nautilus deeply implanted in people's consciousness for more than 40 years.

it's a 43mm watch, with no lugs =)

[APhound]

Originally Posted by rmlovett1

Thank you for this information! Appreciate it!

What are your thoughts, Richard? You want one?


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[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by APhound

What are your thoughts, Richard? You want one?


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The PT I'd have in a heartbeat. Reminds me of the 5712 which I really like.


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[APhound]

Originally Posted by rmlovett1

The PT I'd have in a heartbeat. Reminds me of the 5712 which I really like.


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Ya that’s the one I’m hoping for. Expecting one of them soon!


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