AD’s are telling me that they can get a steel Daytona faster than a Pepsi

[MarioB83]

Originally Posted by Minkus

Just got one on Thursday... No longer rare to me. LFG!

Awesome!

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Krash

Just because a product is mass produced, that doesn’t mean it’s plentiful. Pepsi is rare. Virtually nonexistent if you want to buy one at MSRP.


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There’s no shortage of them out there. Every major grey dealer has them in multiples. It’s a mass produced modern Rolex. You can try to move the goalposts with the MSRP statement but it doesn’t really matter. Not rare. Not scarce. Not going to be discontinued or any other rumor you want to believe.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by ronricks

There’s no shortage of them out there. Every major grey dealer has them in multiples. It’s a mass produced modern Rolex. You can try to move the goalposts with the MSRP statement but it doesn’t really matter. Not rare. Not scarce. Not going to be discontinued or any other rumor you want to believe.

I’m not moving the goal post. You are. Watches being offered by a grey dealer at an exorbitant markup don’t count. That’s not the same thing as walking into an AD and paying MSRP. I’m not sure why anyone would think otherwise.

If anything, the grey market prices reflect that they are in fact rare and there is high demand for them.

Plus, I never said they’re going to get discontinued. I don’t believe that for a second.


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[jfmiii]

Originally Posted by milgauss2232

Don’t believe that until the day I can trade my blro with a Daytona without top up

A white ceramic Daytona has always been on the top of my list. It’s the closest I’ll get to a modern 6263. I’ve always thought that if the Pepsi was discontinued and trading even with a white 126500, I’d make the trade.

Tried on a buddy’s white 126500 a few weeks ago and I no longer feel that way. My Pepsi feels much more special to me.

[BlondesNwatches]

I find some enjoyment how some on here scream and shout that this Pepsi isn’t rare etc just because it’s mass produced and available at a 2x premium online. Many here may never want to get it from the grey market, hence they mentally took that channel out as a possibility. For them, it could be pretty rare to get at MSRP at their AD. No need to troll people on their interpretation or show how well you did in high school on understanding what is rare or not.

[MikeT]

I’m very blessed!! Also have the best AD ever


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[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Krash

In terms of TRF subscribers, it’s not a rare watch obviously. We see them all the time on here, but that doesn’t mean they’re plentiful out in the real world.

Sure they are popular and demand is high. There are 900 of them for sale on C24. 370 2024 models on eBay. Obviously, some will be ghosts and duplicates.

There are 75 examples of my Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra GMT World Timer for sale on C24. 20 on eBay. My AD gets one, sometimes two of them per year.

This makes my Omega an order of magnitude less common than the BLRO. I can still buy one tomorrow, and at less than MSRP. It's rare by your parameters but relatively few people want it. Popularity and rarity are different things. I'd certainly call the BLRO difficult to get at MSRP but they are everywhere.

The BLNR is easy to get, my AD offered me one when I walked in. Does this make it less rare than the BLRO? It's been in production for longer but compared to the world population its production number is a grain of sand.

[jaydav2306]

It's rare to get one at MSRP I think is the statement

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

It's rare to get one at MSRP I think is the statement

In one sentence, you’ve summed it up beautifully

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

It's rare to get one at MSRP I think is the statement

Exactly. If they sold at or below MSRP on the used market they’d magically reappear in the AD cases tomorrow


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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Minkus

Just got one on Thursday... No longer rare to me. LFG!

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Congratulations

[Beoman]

Lucky me then !

Two fantastic watches and yes deliveries of BLRO are worst than 126500.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Beoman

Lucky me then !

Two fantastic watches and yes deliveries of BLRO are worst than 126500.

Lovely duo

[subtona]

Tell em to put up or shut up :)

[Giangos]

My AD recently told me that they got around 60 GMTs last year.
3 were SS BLRO. I got one of them, and when I picked it up I was told that it was 4 months since the last one.

So I do believe they are rare, the ADs do not receive them often.


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[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Krash

Watches being offered by a grey dealer at an exorbitant markup don’t count. That’s not the same thing as walking into an AD and paying MSRP.


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Where do you think these watches originated from? From AD's. You are proving my point. These watches are mass produced and are not rare or scarce.

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Where do you think these watches originated from? From AD's. You are proving my point. These watches are mass produced and are not rare or scarce.

It seems like any major used dealer has roughly 2-3 on hand at any given time. According to some members that’s a years worth of AD allocation…

People who think these are rare are the ones who will pay 20k for a SS watch and think they just bought haute horology. Relax- you paid a premium for a BMW …on the used market


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[OTX]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

It seems like any major used dealer has roughly 2-3 on hand at any given time. According to some members that’s a years worth of AD allocation…

People who think these are rare are the ones who will pay 20k for a SS watch and think they just bought haute horology. Relax- you paid a premium for a BMW …on the used market


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The reason people are paying $20k for them is because demand outweighs supply by a million times. There is no way the gray market prices for the Pepsi would have held up for 7 years if supply was plentiful. It just doesn’t make sense. Don’t forget this is in a supposedly dead watch market and they’re still going for $20k plus.

If you look at Chrono24, which is the biggest watch market online, there are 292 Pepsis for sale in the US. That’s not much at all considering the US is Rolexs biggest watch market. That’s comes out to about 6 per state.

Speaking of “haute horological”, even the biggest watch snobs acknowledge the Pepsi as “THE” GMT watch. No matter how you slice it or dice it, you’re not getting one lol.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

People who think these are rare are the ones who will pay 20k for a SS watch and think they just bought haute horology. Relax- you paid a premium for a BMW …on the used market


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I think it's the opposite. People say they're rare because they won't pay more than MSRP.

[Ravager135]

In 2021, take it for what it is worth, I was told by my AD that they were getting a SS GMT in every shipment every two weeks or so. This was when the BLRO and BLNR were the only options. I was told that it essentially oscillated with a 50/50 break down: BLRO on Jubilee, BLNR on Oyster, BLRO on Oyster, BLNR on Jubilee. I randomly asked to be put on a waitlist right before Christmas 2021 for a BLRO and my AD point blank said you'll probably have one very soon. I got a call a few days later once the shipment arrived at the store. He flat out told me he knew what was coming in.

Now obviously things have changed and it seems apparent production is down. As I said in another thread, trying to perfect the BLRO color scheme may be resulting in tighter production numbers than previous tolerances. Regardless, I still don't believe that they are tougher to get than a Daytona. I've never seen a Daytona in stainless steel in a window, display, or even as an exhibition piece going back to 2008.

[EL Diablo]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

It seems like any major used dealer has roughly 2-3 on hand at any given time. According to some members that’s a years worth of AD allocation…

People who think these are rare are the ones who will pay 20k for a SS watch and think they just bought haute horology. Relax- you paid a premium for a BMW …on the used market


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Are they rare depends on how you want to look at it...
Vast majority of collectors who want a Pepsi can not buy one at the AD for MSRP.

So yes they are rare for your avg. Rolex non-flipper customer to acquire at MSRP.

The watch has also proven to hold the current market value.
Money is all relative anyway... 20K to one person might be 1K to another.

[Mystro]

As we have established many many times over the years, AD’s dont know what they are getting nor do they ever have an inside info from Rolex. AD’s blow smoke for a variety of reasons. All SS GMT are hot and selling at a premium. There has been and still is a $3.5-4K premium for a BLRO on Jubilee over the same BLNR. All of our trusted sellers have them and sell for those figures. What separates speculation from fact is being in the market and actually buying these watches recently as many of us have done. Too much side line speculation without any skin in the game just creates more white noise on the subject.

Right now the watch market has stabilized and not a bad time to buy that watch you have been lusting after in the secondary market. Christmas around the corner only hedges prices up a bit. Traditionally late summer / fall is always the low time in the market.

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by OTX

The reason people are paying $20k for them is because demand outweighs supply by a million times. There is no way the gray market prices for the Pepsi would have held up for 7 years if supply was plentiful. It just doesn’t make sense. Don’t forget this is in a supposedly dead watch market and they’re still going for $20k plus.

If you look at Chrono24, which is the biggest watch market online, there are 292 Pepsis for sale in the US. That’s not much at all considering the US is Rolexs biggest watch market. That’s comes out to about 6 per state.

Speaking of “haute horological”, even the biggest watch snobs acknowledge the Pepsi as “THE” GMT watch. No matter how you slice it or dice it, you’re not getting one lol.

Already have one from an AD. It’s not a $20,000 watch by any stretch of the imagination. This is my second one from another AD. They are not rare- no matter how you slice and dice it.

And in terms of being the THE GMT watch you are probably referring to the 4 digit references or 5 digit references. Those are THE GMT




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[Krash]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

Already have one from an AD. It’s not a $20,000k watch by any stretch of the imagination. This is my second one from another AD. They are not rare- no matter how you slice and dice it.

And in terms of being the THE GMT watch you are probably referring to the 4 digit references or 5 digit references. Those are THE GMT




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According to the math it’s rare. It’s statistically rare by a significant margin. Just because you have one, and grey dealers have a hundred of them at a huge markup, that doesn’t mean it’s plentiful.


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[EL Diablo]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

Already have one from an AD. It’s not a $20,000 watch by any stretch of the imagination. This is my second one from another AD. They are not rare- no matter how you slice and dice it.

And in terms of being the THE GMT watch you are probably referring to the 4 digit references or 5 digit references. Those are THE GMT




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Your situation is rare.
If you can sell it for 20k... its a 20k watch.
If you can't... its not.

[OTX]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

Already have one from an AD. It’s not a $20,000 watch by any stretch of the imagination. This is my second one from another AD. They are not rare- no matter how you slice and dice it.

And in terms of being the THE GMT watch you are probably referring to the 4 digit references or 5 digit references. Those are THE GMT




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Your situation is rare as I have many friends who have been waiting for one and can’t get it. Reality is no one is getting this from an AD unless they have a great relationship. Sure someone might get lucky like yourself but that is not the norm. That’s like me saying I won the lottery, you can. You must have a charming personality to be offered a Pepsi from 2 ADs. As far as the being the GMT, imo this is the one. It’s the most durable and best built out of all the versions in my humble opinion. Better bezels that don’t fade, better bracelets and clasps and a better movement. Anyway, please share where you live so I can get some Pepsis :-)

[fly4food84]

I can confirm my AD has said BLRO come through less than Daytonas.

I red the comments saying it’s not rare because Grey Dealers always have them, but that doesn’t hold water because they are stocking up on them to they can sell them at 2x MSRP and not everyone can or will pay that.

All Grey Dealers stock up on Daytonas too. You can always buy a SS Daytona technically. They are still rare, and yes relative vs demand that is also true.


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[jamesgames]

I am on the list for both BLRO and SS daytona white dial. I spoke to my AD yesterday, she said the Daytona is harder to get.

As we can see - ymmv and not everyone's AD is saying the same thing.

[Carguy87]

Originally Posted by EL Diablo

Your situation is rare.
If you can sell it for 20k... its a 20k watch.
If you can't... its not.

lol beat me to it. The value of anything is what someone else will pay you for it

Would I pay $20k for a BLRO? No. Will plenty of other folks? Clearly.

For those that have been lucky / spent enough to get one from their AD congrats! For those who have paid the market premium because life is short and they wanted the watch, congrats!!

My two cents is spend your money on what makes you happy. Can’t take it with you and unless you believe in reincarnation we only get one shot at enjoying our time on this planet, so fill it with things that spark joy.

For me one of those things is hanging out in our little corner of the internet with all you fine WIS’ lol. So thanks everybody for being on here!

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by OTX

Your situation is rare as I have many friends who have been waiting for one and can’t get it. Reality is no one is getting this from an AD unless they have a great relationship. Sure someone might get lucky like yourself but that is not the norm. That’s like me saying I won the lottery, you can. You must have a charming personality to be offered a Pepsi from 2 ADs. As far as the being the GMT, imo this is the one. It’s the most durable and best built out of all the versions in my humble opinion. Better bezels that don’t fade, better bracelets and clasps and a better movement. Anyway, please share where you live so I can get some Pepsis :-)

I’ll sell you mine for $25,000 you can have it tomorrow ;-)

If it was rare, you wouldn’t be able to have it on your wrist tomorrow.

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