Czapek

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by rag5178

Given the lead time is out to 2024, I think it makes more sense to fulfill orders than to pursue new customers for the time being

Or stores could do GTG where those who have let others try 'em on. One of the things I love about GTG is seeing / trying on various pieces of interest.

[Loosetoe]

Originally Posted by mikemargolis

Great idea, but we are using all parts to make product to fulfill orders.

I do have one piece from my Carnet (temporary import), it's at Oster Jewelers in Denver at the moment.

Antarctique PDD Black Ink

Mike,

Perhaps Czapek could generate a pdf showing the exact sizes of the two models, 38.5 and 40.5. A paper cutout of each wouldn’t be as good as the real thing, but would be better than nothing. It would certainly show scale between the two.


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[Noahgraph]

So anyone has one in back order? I heard the demand is completely out of control. My friend -who was at Geneva last week- was told that they hardly know how they are going to do this demand-thing themselves. Not very promising to those waiting on a watch.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by Noahgraph

So anyone has one in back order? I heard the demand is completely out of control. My friend -who was at Geneva last week- was told that they hardly know how they are going to do this demand-thing themselves. Not very promising to those waiting on a watch.

Are you saying the reserved “manufacture” date for those who have put down a deposit is a farce? Honestly asking.


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[rag5178]

Anyone on the fence, please take this with a grain of salt since it’s just a rumor, but I’ve heard Czapek may stop taking Antarctique orders very very soon.

[sgrossma]

Well, yes, there are only 20 something slots left on the website.

[GB-man]

Seems like they have a new website and they are showing sold out unless I am missing something. They pulling a gronefeld lol going to post a pic of them
smiling saying thanks but no mas! I think TRF sold a f*** ton of these haha

edit: nvm there's still copy and paste link on the site you can order with. I would assume at some point they need to catch up with demand but who knows what their capacity is.

[rag5178]

Originally Posted by sgrossma

Well, yes, there are only 20 something slots left on the website.

I’m aware of that, but it’s my understanding that they may stop taking orders even before those orders fill.

[ChetBaker]

Agree with earlier posts that couple of dummy watches would be helpful - it certainly will reduce the number of people selling because they find it doesn’t fit their wrist. I would think it’s in the brand’s interest to not have tens of Antarctiques on Chrono.

[Noahgraph]

Originally Posted by JR16

Are you saying the reserved “manufacture” date for those who have put down a deposit is a farce? Honestly asking.


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No I don't think so to be honest. They know what they can make and a placed order is a placed order.

I am more anxious that they will increase production because they can see the big dollar signs. I rather see some remaining exclusivity and the same amazing level of quality.

What would you do when the demand on your product went so high you can hardly believe it?

If would cheer for them if they stop taking orders for some time and keep the finishing and QC the same top level as it is now. I guess only time will tell. You just never know.

[Finly]

Originally Posted by Noahgraph

No I don't think so to be honest. They know what they can make and a placed order is a placed order.

I am more anxious that they will increase production because they can see the big dollar signs. I rather see some remaining exclusivity and the same amazing level of quality.

What would you do when the demand on your product went so high you can hardly believe it?

If would cheer for them if they stop taking orders for some time and keep the finishing and QC the same top level as it is now. I guess only time will tell. You just never know.

I agree.

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by Noahgraph

No I don't think so to be honest. They know what they can make and a placed order is a placed order.

I am more anxious that they will increase production because they can see the big dollar signs. I rather see some remaining exclusivity and the same amazing level of quality.

What would you do when the demand on your product went so high you can hardly believe it?

If would cheer for them if they stop taking orders for some time and keep the finishing and QC the same top level as it is now. I guess only time will tell. You just never know.

They are increasing their production. They’ve been pretty open about that. 5000 pieces per year is the current target.


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[Bug04]

Actually, don’t know whether you grabbed some latest communications, but they are producing 1 unit per day and from what I understood they are targeting 5 units per day so basically 2k per year.
I personally would prefer them to stay in the 2ks and not in the 5ks.

In terms of delivery times, my (totally personal) opinion is that they may be much longer than what envisaged at the moment of the order.
Delays have been registered also for the current deliveries and with increasing volumes therefore complexity such delays may accumulate, I would say quite normal for a small and fast growing demand.

Originally Posted by charger_vital

They are increasing their production. They’ve been pretty open about that. 5000 pieces per year is the current target.


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[Noahgraph]

Right. So they do an annual production of 365 pieces and they want to up that times 15 or so. That is not going to end well.

Edit* one claims 2k and the other says 5k. That is quite a difference

[GB-man]

I would be very impressed if they can scale to 5 k this fast. I have doubts.

[enjoythemusic]

Wonder how competitive the higher talented watchmaker job market is today.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by Bug04

Actually, don’t know whether you grabbed some latest communications, but they are producing 1 unit per day and from what I understood they are targeting 5 units per day so basically 2k per year.
I personally would prefer them to stay in the 2ks and not in the 5ks.

In terms of delivery times, my (totally personal) opinion is that they may be much longer than what envisaged at the moment of the order.
Delays have been registered also for the current deliveries and with increasing volumes therefore complexity such delays may accumulate, I would say quite normal for a small and fast growing demand.

1 watch per day or one antarctique per day? I was under the impression it was the latter.


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[Noahgraph]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Wonder how competitive the higher talented watchmaker job market is today.

That is my point. It is not going benefit to pretty much anything but their financial situation. I rather see them stay petit and awesome.

[rag5178]

At Dubai watch week 4 months ago, Xavier said that Czapek was planning to make 1K watches in the coming year, but to meet demand, they would contemplate scaling to 2k. He discussed the risks of scaling too quickly though and expressed doubts that they would. A lot has changed for the brand in just 4 months, but it’s cool to heard Xavier talk through the dilemma.

[charger_vital]

Originally Posted by Noahgraph

Right. So they do an annual production of 365 pieces and they want to up that times 15 or so. That is not going to end well.

Edit* one claims 2k and the other says 5k. That is quite a difference

Yeah. You are right that the current expansion, as understand it, would take them to 2000. With future plans to move up to as high as 5k. But perhaps 5k is more aspiration than immediate.


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[edhahn44]

Originally Posted by ChetBaker

Agree with earlier posts that couple of dummy watches would be helpful - it certainly will reduce the number of people selling because they find it doesn’t fit their wrist. I would think it’s in the brand’s interest to not have tens of Antarctiques on Chrono.

Agree - definitely not a good sign seeing 5% of the Rattrapante on Chrono already. This doesn’t speak for a very loyal customer base.


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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by edhahn44

Agree - definitely not a good sign seeing 5% of the Rattrapante on Chrono already. This doesn’t speak for a very loyal customer base.

5% is small considering the production numbers, plus (this is my guess, my opinion) once the SN is outed that person can possibly forget getting allocation in the future. Separate the loyal enthusiasts from the a---oles (flippers).

[Noahgraph]

I would give a standing ovation if they blacklisted flippers. On the other hand I am aware that it is almost impossible to track for Czapek.

I think (actually quite sure) a lot of people who are allocated a Passage du Drake Glacier are aiming on a grey market mark up as well.

It is just an era we are currently in guys. You can see it in all layers of watch buying. The hardcore example obviously was the Omega x Swatch- launch but I also heard from my AD that 57 people already applied for the Tudor BB Pro.

The moment we are applying this flipper-virus on 25.000 dollar independents I am kind of lost to be honest.

Let's say I am incredibly thrilled with my two incoming Czapek pieces but also a little bit anxious about the process. There is probably no reason for it but why not be honest right?

[rag5178]

I’m not sure if they were blacklisted, but I know that Czapek did confront one of their customers who flipped a piece. They asked if the seller was trying to make a profit or if they really didn’t enjoy the watch.

[Patek_collector]

Did anyone try to antarctique S to see how it wears?

I am almost pressing the order for a 38.5mm Salmon dial. I have a small wrist of 16.5cm and i have other 38,5cm (Patek 5230G) watches.

Do you see the 38.5cm too small for small wrists?

Below is the 40mm i tried before.

Let me know if you think the S would fit well. Unfortunately, there is no way to try a 38.5mm version.




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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by Noahgraph

That is my point. It is not going benefit to pretty much anything but their financial situation. I rather see them stay petit and awesome.

Imho, and totally my guess, Czapek is doing right by going upscale, from super-rare metal dail to movements. Without a doubt they have a plan. It is US who needs to be a bit patient during these early-ish days.

Twenty years from now we'll look back and smile at our wrists as we were 'there' waaay back when....

[GeraldGentaFan]

Visited Czapek at W&W and tried on the new 38.5mm. For my 17cm wrist I feel it is just a bit too small. I prefer the 40.5mm.






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[GeraldGentaFan]

Originally Posted by Patek_collector

Did anyone try to antarctique S to see how it wears?

I am almost pressing the order for a 38.5mm Salmon dial. I have a small wrist of 16.5cm and i have other 38,5cm (Patek 5230G) watches.

Do you see the 38.5cm too small for small wrists?

Below is the 40mm i tried before.

Let me know if you think the S would fit well. Unfortunately, there is no way to try a 38.5mm version.




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I think the 38.5mm would suit you best if I see how the 40.5mm sits on your wrist. My wrist looks bigger than yours and even for my wrist the 38.5mm is wearable.

[TightLines612]

I too have a small wrist (16mm) but did get a chance to try on the 40.5mm and quite liked it. Comparing to my 39mm RO it definitely wears smaller due to the bracelet / lug design as pictured earlier in this thread.

Losing the cuts on the side of the case on the 38.5mm is definitely a drawback for me. The plus side is the 38.5mm has a chamfer added along the case which I prefer.

Adding the chamfer to the 40.5mm would be a great addition IMO.

Mike - possible to comment on whether this chamfer is going to make it to the 40.5mm Antarctique?

[GeraldGentaFan]

Originally Posted by TightLines612

I too have a small wrist (16mm) but did get a chance to try on the 40.5mm and quite liked it. Comparing to a 39mm RO it definitely wears smaller due to the bracelet / lug design as pictured earlier in this thread.

Losing the cuts on the side of the case on the 38.5mm is definitely a drawback for me. The plus side is the 38.5mm has a chamfer added along the case which I prefer.

Adding the chamfer to the 40.5mm would be a great addition IMO.

Mike - possible to comment on whether this chamfer is going to make it to the 40.5mm Antarctique?

For the, the 39mm RO wears bigger than the 38.5 but definitely smaller than the 40.5mm.