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Lisa · 2 January 2013, 01:23 AM

Happy New Year to you as well, Carl! Hope we have as much fun or more in 2013.

East Bay Rider · 2 January 2013, 01:35 AM

Last night at the party the dads watched the first Vacation movie, Animal House and The Big Lebowski. The wives watched some stupid ball fall. The dads saw boobs on TV. The wives saw a bunch of boobs watching old movies in the other room.

Art 1 · 2 January 2013, 01:42 AM

Happy New Years, All. Love Christmas Vacation.

Lisa · 2 January 2013, 01:46 AM

at Bill.

Dave came up from the basement long enough to show Violet and me his new riveting device. He's putting them into some sheet metal for his simulator project. Riveting is cool.

Lisa · 2 January 2013, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

Happy New Years, All. Love Christmas Vacation.

Nothing better to get you in the holiday spirit... Chevy Chase was at his best in those movies.

Art 1 · 2 January 2013, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Nothing better to get you in the holiday spirit... Chevy Chase was at his best in those movies.

Yes, he was.

East Bay Rider · 2 January 2013, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

at Bill.

Dave came up from the basement long enough to show Violet and me his new riveting device. He's putting them into some sheet metal for his simulator project. Riveting is cool.

Riveting is very cool.

The Joker · 2 January 2013, 02:10 AM

All very riveting

Lisa · 2 January 2013, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

All very riveting

Dave just walked by and I showed him Bill's video. He said, "How many people really stop to think about how a rivet works?"

A whole new world opens up when we stop taking things for granted.

East Bay Rider · 2 January 2013, 02:34 AM

Rivets are the perfect answer. While screws are certainly easier to install and remove, rivets are not only permanent but also flat on BOTH sides. For example you would never want to assemble house gutters (eves troughs) with screws because every fallen leaf or piece of debris would get hung up, trapping more and more crap until they were clogged. Rivets are flat and allow everything to flow right through. It's seldom that anyone would need to disassemble a downspout so no reason not to use rivets. Sure it's more effort to pre drill. That is always a PIA but the benefits are worth it.
All hail the pop rivet.

Now steel rivets are a whole nuther matter. One of the ridiculous things I've had to to do make Ethan's truck work is to replace the rear leaf spring shackles and the mounts. The mounts are riveted to the frame with big heavy steel rivets that are put on hot and flare on the opposite side from the head. I had to cut the off with with a torch by melting the rivet to molten, dripping metal, cleaning the holes (making them round again) and installing bolts through the new brackets and frame.
I guess rivets are cheaper than nuts and bolts but I sure wish Ford wouldn't have cheaped out on that one. What a PIA job that was.

Art 1 · 2 January 2013, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Dave just walked by and I showed him Bill's video. He said, "How many people really stop to think about how a rivet works?"

A whole new world opens up when we stop taking things for granted.

True, in more ways than one.

Art 1 · 2 January 2013, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

Rivets are the perfect answer. While screws are certainly easier to install and remove, rivets are not only permanent but also flat on BOTH sides. For example you would never want to assemble house gutters (eves troughs) with screws because every fallen leaf or piece of debris would get hung up, trapping more and more crap until they were clogged. Rivets are flat and allow everything to flow right through. It's seldom that anyone would need to disassemble a downspout so no reason not to use rivets. Sure it's more effort to pre drill. That is always a PIA but the benefits are worth it.
All hail the pop rivet.

Now steel rivets are a whole nuther matter. One of the ridiculous things I've had to to do make Ethan's truck work is to replace the rear leaf spring shackles and the mounts. The mounts are riveted to the frame with big heavy steel rivets that are put on hot and flare on the opposite side from the head. I had to cut the off with with a torch by melting the rivet to molten, dripping metal, cleaning the holes (making them round again) and installing bolts through the new brackets and frame.
I guess rivets are cheaper than nuts and bolts but I sure wish Ford wouldn't have cheaped out on that one. What a PIA job that was.

That would have been a tough job.

Lisa · 2 January 2013, 02:41 AM

Seems we have our very own Jocke in the coffeeshop... Bill the "Can-Do" Man.

East Bay Rider · 2 January 2013, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Seems we have our very own Jocke in the coffeeshop... Bill the "Can-Do" Man.

Thanks. I can do some things but I'm no Dave. That guy can build a flight simulator

The Joker · 2 January 2013, 03:05 AM

Carl is really good at building/making things. Here's a car he fixed up

East Bay Rider · 2 January 2013, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Carl is really good at building/making things. Here's a car he fixed up

East Bay Rider · 2 January 2013, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

at Bill.

Dave came up from the basement long enough to show Violet and me his new riveting device. He's putting them into some sheet metal for his simulator project. Riveting is cool.

One question:
Will the flight simulator fit through a door or is it in the basement forever?

Way back when my parents knew a guy who built a small airplane in his cellar (wings were seperate of course). No it couldn't fit out the door and had to be destroyed when the house sold.

FeelingTheBlues · 2 January 2013, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Carl is really good at building/making things. Here's a car he fixed up

Clearly that's my best masterpiece!

yessir69 · 2 January 2013, 04:14 AM

Lisa - you need to let Dave come up and fly with me. I'll let him fly a plane for real. Of course, I'll be paying close attention...

The Joker · 2 January 2013, 04:18 AM

Has Dave sorted out the actual software yet. I've still got my Sega Master System somewhere. Can lend him it and afterburner. Used to love that game.

Lisa · 2 January 2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Carl is really good at building/making things. Here's a car he fixed up

Looks like he even put on the snow tires.

Lisa · 2 January 2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

One question:
Will the flight simulator fit through a door or is it in the basement forever?

Way back when my parents knew a guy who built a small airplane in his cellar (wings were seperate of course). No it couldn't fit out the door and had to be destroyed when the house sold.

Just like the guy your parents knew, the flight sim will be one with the basement. Not entirely certain, but it's pretty close to a full scale 737 cockpit. I suppose it could be disassembled, but I think it's going to occupy the end of the basement club room for many years to come.

Lisa · 2 January 2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by yessir69

Lisa - you need to let Dave come up and fly with me. I'll let him fly a plane for real. Of course, I'll be paying close attention...

That's between you guys. I'm out of the mix on that one!

Maybe he'd like to just sit in the pilot's chair and pretend, like he does at home.

Lisa · 2 January 2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Has Dave sorted out the actual software yet. I've still got my Sega Master System somewhere. Can lend him it and afterburner. Used to love that game.

I don't know what he's using, Wes. But whatever it is I'm sure it is expensive and he doesn't want me to find out what it cost.

Lion · 2 January 2013, 12:04 PM

Lisa, then under the circumstances...I think a few watches would maybe even things out!!!
Take it easy.....Leo

Lion · 2 January 2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Lisa, then under the circumstances...I think a few watches would maybe even things out!!!
Take it easy.....Leo

Lisa, actually...I've had some time to think things through.....and with all that you do for your family...it would take way more on hubby's part to ever come close to making up for his shortfalls!!!
Take it easy.....Leo

The Joker · 2 January 2013, 06:39 PM

So today I start my sea food diet. If I see food I have to eat it.

And then someone goes and brings in a yard of jaffa cakes. I love these things. Diet starts tomorrow.

The Joker · 2 January 2013, 06:53 PM

So the airline has only stumped up half what it costs to replace my bag so far. Don't ask.

Hoping they will still pay in full.

Anyway need to get a new bag. What you think is better, Brown or Black?

East Bay Rider · 2 January 2013, 09:57 PM

Brown. More subtle. I'm not big on branding.

Lion · 2 January 2013, 10:08 PM

Wes, tough choice...maybe flip a coin and best 2 0ut of 3 or 4 out of 7...wins. They both look nice!!!
Take it easy.....Leo

2 January 2013, 01:35 AM	#14852
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,102	Last night at the party the dads watched the first Vacation movie, Animal House and The Big Lebowski. The wives watched some stupid ball fall. The dads saw boobs on TV. The wives saw a bunch of boobs watching old movies in the other room. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

2 January 2013, 02:34 AM	#14860
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,102	Rivets are the perfect answer. While screws are certainly easier to install and remove, rivets are not only permanent but also flat on BOTH sides. For example you would never want to assemble house gutters (eves troughs) with screws because every fallen leaf or piece of debris would get hung up, trapping more and more crap until they were clogged. Rivets are flat and allow everything to flow right through. It's seldom that anyone would need to disassemble a downspout so no reason not to use rivets. Sure it's more effort to pre drill. That is always a PIA but the benefits are worth it. All hail the pop rivet. Now steel rivets are a whole nuther matter. One of the ridiculous things I've had to to do make Ethan's truck work is to replace the rear leaf spring shackles and the mounts. The mounts are riveted to the frame with big heavy steel rivets that are put on hot and flare on the opposite side from the head. I had to cut the off with with a torch by melting the rivet to molten, dripping metal, cleaning the holes (making them round again) and installing bolts through the new brackets and frame. I guess rivets are cheaper than nuts and bolts but I sure wish Ford wouldn't have cheaped out on that one. What a PIA job that was. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

2 January 2013, 12:04 PM	#14875
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Lisa, then under the circumstances...I think a few watches would maybe even things out!!! Take it easy.....Leo __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

2 January 2013, 09:57 PM	#14879
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,102	Brown. More subtle. I'm not big on branding. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

2 January 2013, 10:08 PM	#14880
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Wes, tough choice...maybe flip a coin and best 2 0ut of 3 or 4 out of 7...wins. They both look nice!!! Take it easy.....Leo __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

2 January 2013, 01:23 AM	#14851
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	Happy New Year to you as well, Carl! Hope we have as much fun or more in 2013.

2 January 2013, 01:42 AM	#14853
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	Happy New Years, All. Love Christmas Vacation.

2 January 2013, 01:46 AM	#14854
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	at Bill. Dave came up from the basement long enough to show Violet and me his new riveting device. He's putting them into some sheet metal for his simulator project. Riveting is cool.

2 January 2013, 02:10 AM	#14858
The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,641	All very riveting

2 January 2013, 02:41 AM	#14863
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	Seems we have our very own Jocke in the coffeeshop... Bill the "Can-Do" Man.

2 January 2013, 03:05 AM	#14865
The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,641	Carl is really good at building/making things. Here's a car he fixed up

2 January 2013, 04:14 AM	#14869
yessir69 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 3,303	Lisa - you need to let Dave come up and fly with me. I'll let him fly a plane for real. Of course, I'll be paying close attention...

2 January 2013, 04:18 AM	#14870
The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,641	Has Dave sorted out the actual software yet. I've still got my Sega Master System somewhere. Can lend him it and afterburner. Used to love that game.

2 January 2013, 06:53 PM	#14878
The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,641	So the airline has only stumped up half what it costs to replace my bag so far. Don't ask. Hoping they will still pay in full. Anyway need to get a new bag. What you think is better, Brown or Black?

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