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Old 26 February 2019, 03:43 AM   #121
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OMG, please don't confuse Hollyweird with anything exuding good taste. Half of their costumes, and I do mean costumes, exude nothing but bad taste. A tuxedo coat and shorts??? A skinny suit with pants four inches above their ankles and shoes with no socks??? Hollyweird is the absolute last place I'd seek advice for regarding manners, dress, or lifestyle emulation.
Yes, they are all looking for shock-value and attention, which ironically is the exact opposite of what black tie is supposed to do!
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Old 26 February 2019, 03:46 AM   #122
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No hate or offense taken. Lol.

I’ve got thick skin. It was for a Mardi Gras ball. Rented the Tux front he same place I’ve rented them from for years. They’ve been in business for 65yrs as well. Didn’t want to wear a boring plain black tux this year like every other person. I could have worn black or brown shoes. I preferred the look overall with the brown ones, which were from the store as well.

At the end of the day all that really matters was that we had a great time!

Side note I did receive a couple compliments on the tux that night as well. Lol



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That's totally fine, but you were really wearing a suit. Not sure why one would need to call it a tuxedo. If you had said "check out my suit and sub from a Mardi Gras ball" I would have thought nothing of it.

Use your wife as an example. She is wearing a lovely evening gown. Nobody would ever call it a suit, or a cocktail dress, or a ball gown, because that's not what it is, which is fine.
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Old 26 February 2019, 03:49 AM   #123
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Ryan Secrest disagrees with team no watch with tux : ) from the Oscars, he went yellow gold to boot!


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A great example of what people mean by a watch wearing a person. I saw a lot of Rolex ads so maybe they strapped that thing on him. It's not a good look...hes dressed well and all you see is LOOK AT THIS GIANT WATCH.

He nailed the shoes though. I'll let it slide that it isn't how I would have laced them.
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Old 26 February 2019, 03:58 AM   #124
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...Rented the Tux front he same place I’ve rented them from for years. They’ve been in business for 65yrs as well.....
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Those shoes probably aren't quite that old.
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Old 26 February 2019, 08:42 AM   #125
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OMG, please don't confuse Hollyweird with anything exuding good taste. Half of their costumes, and I do mean costumes, exude nothing but bad taste. A tuxedo coat and shorts??? A skinny suit with pants four inches above their ankles and shoes with no socks??? Hollyweird is the absolute last place I'd seek advice for regarding manners, dress, or lifestyle emulation.
I’m not a fan of the look at all. Not much into fashion period, I don’t disagree. Just an organic real life example that I came across because of the Oscars coverage.
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Old 16 March 2019, 06:54 AM   #126
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The act of wearing something non-conformal (because "I gotta be meeeee") at a formal setting doesn't make a person interesting. On the contrary, it represents a tired and cliche'ed frat boy uniform of sorts.

The point of formal wear ("following a form") isn't to be stuffy, it's to create a leveling-effect among all guests where the focus can be on personalities and conversation, not attire.

Dressing to express yourself is what people do in everyday life, and runs counter to the entire point of having all guests from whatever background or walks of life from starving artist to billionaire hedge fund manager attend a function on equal footing not unlike how the a rich kid from Greenwich, CT gets issued the same haircut and clothes as a poor dirt farmer kid from Gizzard Lick, TN if they both decide to attend boot camp in Parris Island, SC.

The idea and request to follow the form of "formal" serves (attempts) to remove whatever hierarchy exists outside the immediate goings-on in order for all to be more at ease while attending. It has nothing to do with acting like one has a stick up the butt (another cliche', an erroneous one that leads to the "I gotta be meeeeee" response").

"Formal" and "dressing up" aren't the same thing, and half-ass formal is just an attention-getting masquerade of having an actual personality.

Also, Hollyweird self-congratulatory award shows are not examples of formal events.
I REALLY love this analysis! Thank you for stating this clearly.

Today, . . . it seems to be SO much "all about me", and heaven help you if you criticize someone - - it might hurt their self-esteem, or offend their politically-correct stance.

Thank you again for saying that REAL equality is a state of mind, and NOT which watch you're wearing!
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Old 16 March 2019, 07:48 AM   #127
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Old 20 January 2021, 04:25 AM   #128
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Sorry for reviving this, but being both a watch nerd and menswear buff I’ve noticed that since the 30s/40s many men renowned for their impeccable taste in clothing wore watches with both black and white tie, and it was their personal watches, not some product placement. Examples include Fred Astaire, Clark Glable, and Frank Sinatra. So, knowing the pinnacle of menswear was the so called Golden Age (30s through 50s), the tuxedo in its peak configuration hails from those days, therefore it’s acceptable to wear a watch with formal and semi formal wear, and that is miles away from wearing notch lapels or a long tie with this sort of attire. That said, they used to wear what is defined as dress watches (thin, uncomplicated, black strap...). That said, given all Rolexes in the Oyster Perpetual range, including the DJ and the DD are sports watches, yes, wearing one would be bending the rules, but when you understand the spirit of the rules, you can actually bend them with taste and look great. What will look good will depend on the man’s frame, what model is the Rolex, and how it coordinates with the outfit, specially other metalware. Also, it’s easier to get away with wearing smaller models and 4 or 5 digit references, as the maxi case makes Rolexes look bulky and more casual. One rare example of well dressed Hollywood actor is Ryan Gosling, and his 5500 AK looked great with his Ivory dinner jacket, even by non Hollywood standards. I tend to wear a 36mm Explorer like Fleming did (when you learn about his life he was cooler than Bond, although he and literary Bond both committed some fashion atrocities). Sometimes I also wear my 1601 with a white face, which aesthetically goes even better. I won’t go as far as wearing the sub or GMT Master, but some guys can pull it off well. Anyway, the trick is to avoid anything too attention grabbing and/or that won’t fit under the cuff, and opt for a timeless, traditional design, and avoid too trendy looking pieces. As for bracelets, metal bracelets aren’t ideal, but are acceptable if not too bulky. I for one cannot bear to wear any sort of strap/bracelet that’s not metal, and I’ve only gotten compliments on my formal wear so far, and some on the watches too (although in formal wear they go unnoticed almost 100% of the time, as they should in this setting). Rubber straps and NATOs should be avoided like the plague though, as most other fabric straps, although once I’ve seen a guy wearing a vintage Calatrava on a grosgrain strap that matched his lapels that actually looked great. Anyway, the point is looking good and not having the watch being a distraction, but rather a almost unnoticeable detail, but that looks great in the rare occasion it’s noticed.
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