Who gave a xmas gift to their Sales Assoc.?

[DonRickles]

As my SA is recovering from the virus, I gave my prayers to her and her family....

[Combine man]

Don't see the point in buying gifts for shop assistants, buying a high value item in their shop is reward enough,after all they are only doing their job.

[imsayingthough]

My SA not AD has been very nice to me. I sent her a holiday wine basket. Yes it is a transactional relationship so i do hope she enjoys it and also buys me some good will.

[mattfa999]

After reading this entire thread I've come to the conclusion that there are plenty of folks on this forum who would have no problem in justifying giving a kidney to a SA if it enabled them to snag a Daytona at msrp.
Some of the rationalizations expressed here are delusional. A group of very well off, I dare say extremely rich people who are attempting to convince themselves that they are friends with the gatekeepers of their desired prey. This Rolex game is all business, all about the money. To think otherwise is fooling yourself.

[kieselguhr]

I gift them with my patronage and that suffices.

[Atone]

Originally Posted by mattfa999

After reading this entire thread I've come to the conclusion that there are plenty of folks on this forum who would have no problem in justifying giving a kidney to a SA if it enabled them to snag a Daytona at msrp.
Some of the rationalizations expressed here are delusional. A group of very well off, I dare say extremely rich people who are attempting to convince themselves that they are friends with the gatekeepers of their desired prey. This Rolex game is all business, all about the money. To think otherwise is fooling yourself.

But she smiled at me and pretended to be interested in fishing talk after I spent 6 figures this year. I think it’s love honestly. I just don’t think people get it, what love is.

[AJMarcus]

I put my SA on a list for a Christmas gift this year. He’s still waiting.

[Atone]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

I put my SA on a list for a Christmas gift this year. He’s still waiting.

Hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahah

You win.

[ce027772]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

I put my SA on a list for a Christmas gift this year. He’s still waiting.

Does he call you periodically to check if there is a chance of getting his gift within the next 2 years?

[vh2k]

Great thread. The point is quite simple:

AD staff are people. People tend to do nice things for people who are nice to them. If you are a jerk, chances are they won’t go out of their way for you.

So, whether it’s a gift, a card, a friendly email, or quick text.... be nice, and you may pop into their head next time they have an opportunity to be nice back.

Happy Holidays!!!

[jcarm981]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

I put my SA on a list for a Christmas gift this year. He’s still waiting.

Now this is funny. “It’ll probably be 2024 for your gift if you are lucky”

[djyolky]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

I put my SA on a list for a Christmas gift this year. He’s still waiting.

Hahahahaha

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[Atone]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

I put my SA on a list for a Christmas gift this year. He’s still waiting.

Originally Posted by vh2k

Great thread. The point is quite simple:

AD staff are people. People tend to do nice things for people who are nice to them. If you are a jerk, chances are they won’t go out of their way for you.

So, whether it’s a gift, a card, a friendly email, or quick text.... be nice, and you may pop into their head next time they have an opportunity to be nice back.

Happy Holidays!!!

That’s the definition of transactional. It’s not very magnanimous to imply one is being “nice” is in hopes of anything in return. One must be nice for being nice’s sake. Selling someone a luxury item isn’t being nice any more than a bouncer at a club letting the attractive people in is being “nice” to them. It feels good to the recipient but it’s not about what people seem to wish it were about.

[djyolky]

Originally Posted by Atone

That’s the definition of transactional. It’s not very magnanimous to imply one is being “nice” is in hopes of anything in return. One must be nice for being nice’s sake. Selling someone a luxury item isn’t being nice any more than a bouncer at a club letting the attractive people in is being “nice” to them. It feels good to the recipient but it’s not about what people seem to wish it were about.

Great post. Ethics and Aristotle come to mind.

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[vh2k]

Originally Posted by Atone

That’s the definition of transactional. It’s not very magnanimous to imply one is being “nice” is in hopes of anything in return. One must be nice for being nice’s sake. Selling someone a luxury item isn’t being nice any more than a bouncer at a club letting the attractive people in is being “nice” to them. It feels good to the recipient but it’s not about what people seem to wish it were about.

Yes, it’s a business transaction — just like the bouncer’s job is to let the hot people in. But, the bouncer also recognizes regulars who are nice tippers and may not be 10/10.

They have discretion — just as AD managers and SAs do. If the bouncer wasn’t nicely tipped every time he let you in (see what I did there)... you would suddenly find yourself standing in a long line in the cold for hours. ;)

[Atone]

Originally Posted by vh2k

Yes, it’s a business transaction — just like the bouncer’s job is to let the hot people in. But, the bouncer also recognizes regulars who are nice tippers and may not be 10/10.

They have discretion — just as AD managers and SAs do. If the bouncer wasn’t nicely tipped every time he let you in (see what I did there)... you would suddenly find yourself standing in a long line in the cold for hours. ;)

Hahahaha. Well then we are conflating “nice” with behavioral manipulation. I’m all about manipulating a Daytona out of a tight fisted AD so I’m super “nice” and drop off gifts and all that. I actually even like some of them but I’m clear about the nature of the relationship.

[teck21]

Originally Posted by Atone

That’s the definition of transactional. It’s not very magnanimous to imply one is being “nice” is in hopes of anything in return. One must be nice for being nice’s sake. Selling someone a luxury item isn’t being nice any more than a bouncer at a club letting the attractive people in is being “nice” to them. It feels good to the recipient but it’s not about what people seem to wish it were about.

All human relationships are transactional in nature.

Possibly excepting the parent child one, and not even always.


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[Atone]

Originally Posted by teck21

All human relationships are transactional in nature.

Possibly excepting the parent child one, and not even always.


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Mmmmmmm, kind of. But not really.

[Golfbone]

Gave my sales guy a nice bottle of wine for Thanksgiving and another one for Christmas. Pop in to look at watches and chat and bring a little gift of some wine with me. I did get a SS ceramic Daytona this year and he told me I'm first on the list for the next Blue SD so as far as I'm concerned he's been good to me. He's a nice guy and I enjoy schmoozing with him....he calls me when it's my wife's birthday, Valentine's day, etc. with suggestions that SHE gives him from a wish list she creates and it saves me time and trouble ....just get her what she told him she wants. Time is money and this saves me a lot of time looking. He has given me heads up on some pieces which were desirable but I turned down because I don't want to buy every desirable piece Rolex makes....just certain ones to fill out my collection and I don't flip.

[Seddyspaghetti]

Originally Posted by vh2k

Yes, it’s a business transaction — just like the bouncer’s job is to let the hot people in. But, the bouncer also recognizes regulars who are nice tippers and may not be 10/10.

They have discretion — just as AD managers and SAs do. If the bouncer wasn’t nicely tipped every time he let you in (see what I did there)... you would suddenly find yourself standing in a long line in the cold for hours. ;)

Love this analogy.

[teck21]

Originally Posted by Atone

Mmmmmmm, kind of. But not really.

Sure they are.

All human interactions are conditional.

Do you really think office gift exchanges at Christmas are truly very different from gifting an AD?


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[Atone]

Originally Posted by teck21

Sure they are.

All human interactions are conditional.

Do you really think office gift exchanges at Christmas are truly very different from gifting an AD?


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That spectrum of human interaction is entirely reductionistic. And, no, I don’t think the two examples you have are very different.

[Halifax Daytona UK]

Give them nothing, you are the buyer. The relationship is in your head. Your worth to the AD is minimal due to demand.
If you are going to give them something I hope you are giving every SA you use a present/bribe inc those in your local 24-7 and your trusted seller

[Halifax Daytona UK]

Originally Posted by ChuMpion3

Building a relationship with my SA so I got him a box of Cohibas and a bottle of 20yr old scotch. If I am lucky, he may actually call me this year. If not, I will do more next Christmas.

Buying the SA chocolates won’t develop your relationship, you need to buy something you don’t want and that is overpriced from them to start this one way relationship

[ervelo]

Gave the ADs I frequent gifts because they've done me solid and have gotten me presents last minute or they've done some favours for me by giving me priority on their imaginary waitlist. Gave them $80-$100 bottles of wine. It also helps that I'm waiting on some more watches in the new year

[996marty]

Originally Posted by mattfa999

After reading this entire thread I've come to the conclusion that there are plenty of folks on this forum who would have no problem in justifying giving a kidney to a SA if it enabled them to snag a Daytona at msrp.
Some of the rationalizations expressed here are delusional. A group of very well off, I dare say extremely rich people who are attempting to convince themselves that they are friends with the gatekeepers of their desired prey. This Rolex game is all business, all about the money. To think otherwise is fooling yourself.

Spot on

[Zsprings]

Hi,... I'm a new member, first post, but not my first or only rolex.
There I was, having not purchased a new rolex for nearly 8 years, and just about made up my mind to buy a SD (...34) at (hopefully) mrsp, then I read this thread......

[Halifax Daytona UK]

Originally Posted by mattfa999

After reading this entire thread I've come to the conclusion that there are plenty of folks on this forum who would have no problem in justifying giving a kidney to a SA if it enabled them to snag a Daytona at msrp.
Some of the rationalizations expressed here are delusional. A group of very well off, I dare say extremely rich people who are attempting to convince themselves that they are friends with the gatekeepers of their desired prey. This Rolex game is all business, all about the money. To think otherwise is fooling yourself.

Great post, maybe everyone who thinks they’ve a two way relationship with an AD should read it

[msu_1972]

i stop by my AD before christmas to wish him a merry christmas and to give him a small gift. in return he surprise me with the BLNR. :)

it does pay to keep a good relationship with your SA.

[42itus]

I dropped off something for the Rolex crew. But I also did the same for the Omega boutique. I also gave something to the lady at the gas station where I get my morning coffee. All the local diners that I frequent. Probably a few more places.


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