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bewithabob · 10 March 2012, 12:40 AM

This is a great resource. Thanks.

watch4now · 13 March 2012, 10:38 AM

Great Resources and very helpful indeed!! Thanks...

cruvon · 14 March 2012, 11:24 AM

Thanks Bob, watch4now, do post pics of your vintage additions when you get them:)

Balu · 14 March 2012, 08:36 PM

Bought a nice 5513 from Mark Lerman, everything was great! Thanks

Vintage purchase experience Feedback List

Mark Lerman (mark@webstorm.com) (private sale and id comexfan on ebay) [*] [Refer Footnote 1]
Jed aka Jedly1(http://www.thetimetraveler.co/) [*]
Erik Ku (http://10pastten.com/) [*]
Ben (nbtimes@gmail.com ) [*]
Jacek Kozubek - jacek.kozubek@gmail.com - San Francisco CA , http://www.hqmilton.com [*]
Andrew Shear: andrew@sheartime.com/Website:http://www.sheartime.com [*]
Ralle aka rallepeng www.vintage-watches-international.com [*]
Steve Mulholland (http://www.mulhollandtime.com/) [*]
Ian Blowers UKhttp://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/ [*] [Refer Footnote 2]
Jason Graham aka 964RS http://www.SweepingHand.co.uk, http://www.facebook.com/SweepingHand.co.uk [*]
Mike wood (Www.theoldwatchshop.com )
Paul Seregin- http://www.seregins.com
Derek Dier- http://www.watchestobuy.com/
http://www.coolvintagewatches.com
Zaf Basha- http://www.finertimes.com
Ken Jacobs (http://www.wannabuyawatch.com )
Joshua Bonifas: http://www.Fourtane.com
Eric Iskin- Oldetown@sonic.net- Santa Rosa, CA- Olde Towne Jewelers
Jeff Barnard: http://www.bernardwatch.com/ in Texas
Wingate's: http://www.tic-tock.com/wingates/ in Texas
Jerome Fellous http://www.watchmywatch.fr/ in France
Henrik http://www.subgmt.com in the Netherlands
Philippe Capurro of http://www.exoticwatches.net
http://www.uhrenfreund.com
http://www.thewatchcollectors.com

Footnote1: While there have been no complaints or doubts about the authenticity or quality of his watches by buyers who have bought watches from him and is known for being a red sub expert and for his popular red sub article many of us have used as a guide, some serious allegations have been levelled about some of his watch's paperwork by those in the know, specifically about guarantee papers on some watches of his sold through Ebay. The allegations haven't been supported by concrete "publicly" available evidence by those making the allegations citing privacy reasons but that's not to say the allegations can be discounted and is upto forumers here to make their own judgement based on the facts available. In his favour, there has been no evidence of anything amiss when the watches themselves were taken to a RSC, other service centers, or for an expert appraisal. However in light of the serious allegations about the paperwork, for those purchasing full sets which obviously go at a huge premium compared to loose watches, do verify the paperwork when making a full set purchase, to be sure so that all boxes tick and so that you get your money's worth. Buyers/forumers, please feel free to provide public feedback with evidence if you find anything amiss with purchases.

Footnote 2: Please note issues raised by drainaps,Kyle in the earlier sections http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=180461, asking the right questions from this dealer necessary to ascertain originality since this dealer might not have the specific expertise catering specifically to collectors as some of the sellers here, has a 7 days no questions asked return policy

A green (*) against a dealers name indicates that atleast 2 forumers have purchased vintage watches from a dealer here, have received them and are happy. So if atleast 2 of you have purchased a vintage watch from any of the dealers in the list, have received it and are happy with the purchase please say so here so can update the dealers name with a green (*).Also note that a single forumer purchasing 2 or more watches from a seller will be considered as one reference and not two.

Purchase Reference list: Besides the green star rating, for added green star rating accuracy, refer to this "Purchase Reference list" to get a feel of the quality of watches forumers here have purchased from their respective sellers. Forumers have kindly made recommendations here for sellers so that it helps newcomers here, thanks guys for that! Also this list can help confirm are genuine known forumers/buyers making buyer recommendations and you can do that by having a look at their historic posts here, feel free to use the search function to look up their historic threads for posted watch pictures. Though not 100%, the purpose of this purchase reference list is also to hopefully discourage proxy buyers who make fake recommendations on a dealers behalf so that they think twice before making a recommendation here since to prospective buyers, their thread history is only a simple thread search away. Finally, do make inquiries on the forum.

Mark Lerman (ezinternet,cruvon,Chris B,chiubak,Balu)
Jedly (Steelerfan65,bb3188, alanski)
Eric Ku (ddrees,steelerfan65,skyedog,Beaumont Miller II)
Ben (Jason71,yessir69,desfrie)
Jacek (ezinternet,Submarino,Mark020,shairan)
Andrew Shear (Steelerfan65,Tcaviglioli,Beaumont Miller II,bluemartinfan,Skyedog,Buffy)
Ralle (florianw,Burswood)
Steve Mulholland (Swearengen,davemcdus,SLS)
Ian Blowers (DiamondJack, chiubak,Monobike)
Jason Graham (learningtofly,alanski,badastronaut)

NB: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch dealers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments above) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the watches that are on sale with them. Please conduct your own due diligence before you make any purchases by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.

VERY IMPORTANT: As always refer to the footnotes and do your due diligence when buying any vintage watch, even from sellers listed as having a green star, since past recommendations are not necessarily a ticket for positive experiences in the future, so ask questions and verify watches through the forum "before" you buy any vintage watch. This is a forumer purchase experience list aimed at helping newbies find a vintage from known sources and is not an official recommendation list or a substitute for doing proper research on watches and sellers before you buy.[/QUOTE]

cruvon · 15 March 2012, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balu

Bought a nice 5513 from Mark Lerman, everything was great! Thanks

Congrats Balu, will update you in the Purchase reference list.
Do post pics of your new purchase for us to enjoy:)

alwinlee · 21 March 2012, 02:57 PM

Bought an Omega PO late last year from Paul Seregin's
Sad to say it wasn't a good experience.
Wouldn't buy from them ever again.

cruvon · 21 March 2012, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwinlee

Bought an Omega PO late last year from Paul Seregin's
Sad to say it wasn't a good experience.
Wouldn't buy from them ever again.

Thanks for the update, more info if possible please?

alwinlee · 21 March 2012, 03:02 PM

In short I bought an Omega PO 45.5mm non chrono which was pre-used and on display with a bracelet. Upon purchase i requested that I wanted a leather strap which he changed immediately.

When I got back home, I wanted to change it back to the original bracelet but Omega told me the bracelet was for the Omega PO chrono and wouldn't fit the non chrono.

I emailed Paul about it and they said they are working on resolving this issue and would get back to me 1 week later. This was in August 2011. Haven't heard from them till now.

p.s the end links for the PO chrono and non chrono version are different and not interchangeable

cruvon · 21 March 2012, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwinlee

In short I bought an Omega PO 45.5mm non chrono which was pre-used and on display with a bracelet. Upon purchase i requested that I wanted a leather strap which he changed immediately.

When I got back home, I wanted to change it back to the original bracelet but Omega told me the bracelet was for the Omega PO chrono and wouldn't fit the non chrono.

I emailed Paul about it and they said they are working on resolving this issue and would get back to me 1 week later. This was in August 2011. Haven't heard from them till now.

p.s the end links for the PO chrono and non chrono version are different and not interchangeable

Thanks for the info, that's very slack of them, maybe try contacting them again, if necessary with a link to your post?

alwinlee · 21 March 2012, 03:40 PM

You're welcome.
I actually wasn't expecting any form of compensation, just an apology would suffice but they didn't even bother with that.

Oh well it's been half a year and I don't know if I should actually even bother lol

SS Oyster · 24 March 2012, 11:19 AM

I've always found some great vintage pieces at Watchworks in Portland. You won't see them advertised on their website or on display in the store, but if you ask Alex (owner) to see his best Rolex pieces, he'll get them out of the safe and show them to clients he knows or has done business with in the past.

He almost always has old Subs (I've seen some with provenance back to Jacques Cousteau), 1655's, old Daytonas, etc.

www.watchworksPDX.com ... always ask for Alex

snaggle · 25 March 2012, 04:25 PM

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I am the best vintage seller BY FAR on this planet.

cruvon · 31 March 2012, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

I've always found some great vintage pieces at Watchworks in Portland. You won't see them advertised on their website or on display in the store, but if you ask Alex (owner) to see his best Rolex pieces, he'll get them out of the safe and show them to clients he knows or has done business with in the past.

He almost always has old Subs (I've seen some with provenance back to Jacques Cousteau), 1655's, old Daytonas, etc.

www.watchworksPDX.com ... always ask for Alex

Thanks Alex. Just need clarification, have you bought a Rolex vintage watch from him yet? If so can put his name in the list.

Cheers

cruvon · 31 March 2012, 02:25 PM

EDIT: Meant thanks Mark(SS Oyster), not Alex, in the post above:)

BarryN · 9 April 2012, 11:10 AM

Hi all. I bought an old Rolex Submariner in a junk shop in Brighton UK around 1987. Can anyone tell me about my watch? On the face is an unusual symbol under the hands it looks like a T in a circle. On the back is another symbol that looks like an upside down V above a shape like a pyramid which is shaded in. It also has the following numbers inscribed on the back 0552/923-7697 and 2**/75 Thank you
Barry
barry@barrynovis.com

cruvon · 9 April 2012, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryN

Hi all. I bought an old Rolex Submariner in a junk shop in Brighton UK around 1987. Can anyone tell me about my watch? On the face is an unusual symbol under the hands it looks like a T in a circle. On the back is another symbol that looks like an upside down V above a shape like a pyramid which is shaded in. It also has the following numbers inscribed on the back 0552/923-7697 and 2**/75 Thank you
Barry
barry@barrynovis.com

Welcome, if is a T in a circle, that indicates a milsub which is much rarer and valuable. you will need post pics in the vintage section for the experts to look at.

jedly1 · 9 April 2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryN

Hi all. I bought an old Rolex Submariner in a junk shop in Brighton UK around 1987. Can anyone tell me about my watch? On the face is an unusual symbol under the hands it looks like a T in a circle. On the back is another symbol that looks like an upside down V above a shape like a pyramid which is shaded in. It also has the following numbers inscribed on the back 0552/923-7697 and 2**/75 Thank you
Barry
barry@barrynovis.com

barry now has an update of what it is, what its worth and what the next steps are to get it checked over properly

Roadstar · 14 April 2012, 01:26 AM

Has any forum member dealt with melrosejewelers.com in the past? They seem to have an extensive selection and a decent return policy on paper anyways. Any opinions about them would be appreciated.

TL

kaenmorte · 14 April 2012, 07:33 AM

Thank's for info.

apan · 16 April 2012, 05:21 AM

I would like to recommend George Aloi of Tempvus Fvgit.
http://www.tempvsfvgit.com

George is a gentleman and a very honest dealer. His shop is on the smaller side but he has a solid selection of vintage Rolex.

I recently purchased a 1016 from George and am very satisfied with the transaction

cruvon · 3 May 2012, 02:15 PM

thanks for the info/evaluation ssOyster, snaggle, jedly1, apan. Will add in your recommendations to the next update of the list.

Gaucho20 · 4 May 2012, 12:16 AM

I am working on buying a vintage bracelet from Steve Mulholland. Has anyone heard that he had a fire at his place? I hope he is doing ok, and that nobody was injured.

Twsns · 4 May 2012, 01:10 AM

John at 70 bowery NYC is legit, and has a great selection of older Rolex pieces. Fair prices and nice guy. He's there generally after 230pm. Closed Sundays.
www.alltiques.com

Also in the Diamond District I've really only found dealer who's worth dealing with, his name is Gregory or George and he's located on 37 W. 47th St. You walk in and he's directly to the left. He has a great selection of vintage Rolex parts and watches. Nice and very knowledgeable. I've purchased parts from him before. He's there's through the week till 4pm and not sure his weekend schedule.

sryukon · 4 May 2012, 03:12 AM

I just bought my Tudor DayDate 94500 from Derek Dier- http://www.watchestobuy.com/ Very nice and clean. This is Dereks third good purchase Green Star?

cruvon · 4 May 2012, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sryukon

I just bought my Tudor DayDate 94500 from Derek Dier- http://www.watchestobuy.com/ Very nice and clean. This is Dereks third good purchase Green Star?

Thanks for the info, checked thread history, he does have the minimum required 2 good member recommendations from atleast 2 members on this thread catered to Tudor purchases, will mark him with a green star as a Tudor contact. Will add you and others who've kindly made a recommendation in the Purchase reference list,

Cheers!

ndnbill · 9 May 2012, 09:53 AM

I have bought several watches from Josh at Fourtane. Always treated me fairly and their vintage section is very deep. Highest recomendation.

cruvon · 10 May 2012, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndnbill

I have bought several watches from Josh at Fourtane. Always treated me fairly and their vintage section is very deep. Highest recomendation.

Thanks for the recommendation!

r14 · 17 May 2012, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason71

I have bought 4 watches from Ben. He is GREAT. As long as you can get through the customs issue, he is the best. I don't know how to contact him other than:

nbtimes@gmail.com

How do you get old Rolex to clear customs w/o taxed? Any trick?Thank you.

cruvon · 21 May 2012, 06:22 PM

Hi guys, updates to the list here, thanks for your valuable input, the "Seller list" and "Purchase reference list" have been updated with your recommendations.
Derek Dier, who's a Tudor contact, welcome to Green Star status!

Also a slight change in rules from here forward, a member making a recommendation will now require to have atleast 50 posts in the "Vintage Section" before recommending a seller they've made a vintage Rolex watch purchase from. This is to avoid fly by members making recommendations here. Offcourse a more accurate way to cross check fly by recommendations is by also cross checking who the members making recommendations are in the the "Purchase Reference List" to ensure that recommendations are from regular forumers/genuine buyers. Lastly, a reminder that while this list is an attempt to assist newbies entering the vintage Rolex world, it can never be 100% and should not be used as a shortcut for doing your own research for the best outcome with your purchases. Nevertheless, it's the best shot we have at putting a genuine list together with some checks and balances in place, enjoy!

Vintage purchase experience Feedback List

Mark Lerman (mark@webstorm.com) (private sale and id comexfan on ebay) [*] [Refer Footnote 1]
Jed aka Jedly1(http://www.thetimetraveler.co/) [*]
Erik Ku (http://10pastten.com/) [*]
Ben (nbtimes@gmail.com ) [*]
Jacek Kozubek - jacek.kozubek@gmail.com - San Francisco CA , http://www.hqmilton.com [*]
Andrew Shear: andrew@sheartime.com/Website:http://www.sheartime.com [*]
Ralle aka rallepeng www.vintage-watches-international.com [*]
Steve Mulholland (http://www.mulhollandtime.com/) [*]
Ian Blowers UKhttp://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/ [*] [Refer Footnote 2]
Jason Graham aka 964RS http://www.SweepingHand.co.uk, http://www.facebook.com/SweepingHand.co.uk [*]
Derek Dier- http://www.watchestobuy.com/ for Tudors [*]
Mike wood (Www.theoldwatchshop.com )
Paul Seregin- http://www.seregins.com
http://www.coolvintagewatches.com
Zaf Basha- http://www.finertimes.com
Ken Jacobs (http://www.wannabuyawatch.com )
Joshua Bonifas: http://www.Fourtane.com
Eric Iskin- Oldetown@sonic.net- Santa Rosa, CA- Olde Towne Jewelers
Jeff Barnard: http://www.bernardwatch.com/ in Texas
Wingate's: http://www.tic-tock.com/wingates/ in Texas
Jerome Fellous http://www.watchmywatch.fr/ in France
Henrik http://www.subgmt.com in the Netherlands
Philippe Capurro of http://www.exoticwatches.net
http://www.uhrenfreund.com
http://www.thewatchcollectors.com
http://www.watchworksPDX.com, in Portland, ask for Alex
http://www.tempvsfvgit.com, Tempvus Fvgit, ask for George
www.alltiques.com, ask for John at 70 bowery NYC

Footnote1: While there have been no complaints or doubts about the authenticity or quality of his watches by buyers who have bought watches from him and is known for being a red sub expert and for his popular red sub article many of us have used as a guide, some serious allegations have been levelled about some of his watch's paperwork by those in the know, specifically about guarantee papers on some watches of his sold through Ebay. The allegations haven't been supported by concrete "publicly" available evidence by those making the allegations citing privacy reasons but that's not to say the allegations can be discounted and is upto forumers here to make their own judgement based on the facts available. In his favour, there has been no evidence of anything amiss when the watches themselves were taken to a RSC, other service centers, or for an expert appraisal. However in light of the serious allegations about the paperwork, for those purchasing full sets which obviously go at a huge premium compared to loose watches, do verify the paperwork when making a full set purchase, to be sure so that all boxes tick and so that you get your money's worth. Buyers/forumers, please feel free to provide public feedback with evidence if you find anything amiss with purchases.

Footnote 2: Please note issues raised by drainaps,Kyle in the earlier sections http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=180461, asking the right questions from this dealer necessary to ascertain originality since this dealer might not have the specific expertise catering specifically to collectors as some of the sellers here, has a 7 days no questions asked return policy

A green (*) against a dealers name indicates that atleast 2 forumers have purchased vintage watches from a dealer here, have received them and are happy. So if atleast 2 of you have purchased a vintage watch from any of the dealers in the list, have received it and are happy with the purchase please say so here so can update the dealers name with a green (*).Also note that a single forumer purchasing 2 or more watches from a seller will be considered as one reference and not two.

Purchase Reference list: Besides the green star rating, for added green star rating accuracy, refer to this "Purchase Reference list" to get a feel of the quality of watches forumers here have purchased from their respective sellers. Forumers have kindly made recommendations here for sellers so that it helps newcomers here, thanks guys for that! Also this list can help confirm are genuine known forumers/buyers making buyer recommendations and you can do that by having a look at their historic posts here, feel free to use the search function to look up their historic threads for posted watch pictures. Though not 100%, the purpose of this purchase reference list is also to hopefully discourage proxy buyers who make fake recommendations on a dealers behalf so that they think twice before making a recommendation here since to prospective buyers, their thread history is only a simple thread search away. Finally, do make inquiries on the forum.

Mark Lerman (ezinternet,cruvon,Chris B,chiubak,Balu)
Jedly (Steelerfan65,bb3188, alanski)
Eric Ku (ddrees,steelerfan65,skyedog,Beaumont Miller II)
Ben (Jason71,yessir69,desfrie)
Jacek (ezinternet,Submarino,Mark020,shairan)
Andrew Shear (Steelerfan65,Tcaviglioli,Beaumont Miller II,bluemartinfan,Skyedog,Buffy)
Ralle (florianw,Burswood)
Steve Mulholland (Swearengen,davemcdus,SLS)
Ian Blowers (DiamondJack, chiubak,Monobike)
Jason Graham (learningtofly,alanski,badastronaut)
Derek Dier (ezinternetr,Blassy,sryukon)

NB: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch dealers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments above) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the watches that are on sale with them. Please conduct your own due diligence before you make any purchases by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.

VERY IMPORTANT: As always refer to the footnotes and do your due diligence when buying any vintage watch, even from sellers listed as having a green star, since past recommendations are not necessarily a ticket for positive experiences in the future, so ask questions and verify watches through the forum "before" you buy any vintage watch. This is a forumer purchase experience list aimed at helping newbies find a vintage from known sources and is not an official recommendation list or a substitute for doing proper research on watches and sellers before you buy.

Dakota Rowntree · 25 May 2012, 02:49 PM

I have visited your two recommended sites and I have found the best one....

10 March 2012, 12:40 AM	#151
bewithabob "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Bob Location: Dallas, Texas Watch: Daytona Meteorite Posts: 3,417	This is a great resource. Thanks. __________________ meteor flying to Earth onto my wrist... 116509 Daytona Meteorite, 116520 Daytona Black, 116710 GMTIIC, 16013 DATEJUST, CARTIER SANTOS 100 W20090X8, IWC Big Pilot, IWC Top Gun "Everything works out in the end. If it hasn't worked out, it's not the end."

13 March 2012, 10:38 AM	#152
watch4now "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: David Location: Pensacola, FL. Watch: Rolex GMT "Coke" Posts: 10	Time Saver Great Resources and very helpful indeed!! Thanks...

14 March 2012, 11:24 AM	#153
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,689	Thanks Bob, watch4now, do post pics of your vintage additions when you get them:) __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

14 March 2012, 08:36 PM	#154
Balu "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 37	Sub 5513 Bought a nice 5513 from Mark Lerman, everything was great! Thanks Vintage purchase experience Feedback List Mark Lerman (mark@webstorm.com) (private sale and id comexfan on ebay) [] [Refer Footnote 1] Jed aka Jedly1(http://www.thetimetraveler.co/) [] Erik Ku (http://10pastten.com/) [] Ben (nbtimes@gmail.com ) [] Jacek Kozubek - jacek.kozubek@gmail.com - San Francisco CA , http://www.hqmilton.com [] Andrew Shear: andrew@sheartime.com/Website:http://www.sheartime.com [] Ralle aka rallepeng www.vintage-watches-international.com [] Steve Mulholland (http://www.mulhollandtime.com/) [] Ian Blowers UKhttp://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/ [] [Refer Footnote 2] Jason Graham aka 964RS http://www.SweepingHand.co.uk, http://www.facebook.com/SweepingHand.co.uk [] Mike wood (Www.theoldwatchshop.com ) Paul Seregin- http://www.seregins.com Derek Dier- http://www.watchestobuy.com/ http://www.coolvintagewatches.com Zaf Basha- http://www.finertimes.com Ken Jacobs (http://www.wannabuyawatch.com ) Joshua Bonifas: http://www.Fourtane.com Eric Iskin- Oldetown@sonic.net- Santa Rosa, CA- Olde Towne Jewelers Jeff Barnard: http://www.bernardwatch.com/ in Texas Wingate's: http://www.tic-tock.com/wingates/ in Texas Jerome Fellous http://www.watchmywatch.fr/ in France Henrik http://www.subgmt.com in the Netherlands Philippe Capurro of http://www.exoticwatches.net http://www.uhrenfreund.com http://www.thewatchcollectors.com Footnote1: While there have been no complaints or doubts about the authenticity or quality of his watches by buyers who have bought watches from him and is known for being a red sub expert and for his popular red sub article many of us have used as a guide, some serious allegations have been levelled about some of his watch's paperwork by those in the know, specifically about guarantee papers on some watches of his sold through Ebay. The allegations haven't been supported by concrete "publicly" available evidence by those making the allegations citing privacy reasons but that's not to say the allegations can be discounted and is upto forumers here to make their own judgement based on the facts available. In his favour, there has been no evidence of anything amiss when the watches themselves were taken to a RSC, other service centers, or for an expert appraisal. However in light of the serious allegations about the paperwork, for those purchasing full sets which obviously go at a huge premium compared to loose watches, do verify the paperwork when making a full set purchase, to be sure so that all boxes tick and so that you get your money's worth. Buyers/forumers, please feel free to provide public feedback with evidence if you find anything amiss with purchases. Footnote 2: Please note issues raised by drainaps,Kyle in the earlier sections http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=180461, asking the right questions from this dealer necessary to ascertain originality since this dealer might not have the specific expertise catering specifically to collectors as some of the sellers here, has a 7 days no questions asked return policy A green () against a dealers name indicates that atleast 2 forumers have purchased vintage watches from a dealer here, have received them and are happy. So if atleast 2 of you have purchased a vintage watch from any of the dealers in the list, have received it and are happy with the purchase please say so here so can update the dealers name with a green ().Also note that a single forumer purchasing 2 or more watches from a seller will be considered as one reference and not two. Purchase Reference list: Besides the green star rating, for added green star rating accuracy, refer to this "Purchase Reference list" to get a feel of the quality of watches forumers here have purchased from their respective sellers. Forumers have kindly made recommendations here for sellers so that it helps newcomers here, thanks guys for that! Also this list can help confirm are genuine known forumers/buyers making buyer recommendations and you can do that by having a look at their historic posts here, feel free to use the search function to look up their historic threads for posted watch pictures. Though not 100%, the purpose of this purchase reference list is also to hopefully discourage proxy buyers who make fake recommendations on a dealers behalf so that they think twice before making a recommendation here since to prospective buyers, their thread history is only a simple thread search away. Finally, do make inquiries on the forum. Mark Lerman (ezinternet,cruvon,Chris B,chiubak,Balu) Jedly (Steelerfan65,bb3188, alanski) Eric Ku (ddrees,steelerfan65,skyedog,Beaumont Miller II) Ben (Jason71,yessir69,desfrie) Jacek (ezinternet,Submarino,Mark020,shairan) Andrew Shear (Steelerfan65,Tcaviglioli,Beaumont Miller II,bluemartinfan,Skyedog,Buffy) Ralle (florianw,Burswood) Steve Mulholland (Swearengen,davemcdus,SLS) Ian Blowers (DiamondJack, chiubak,Monobike) Jason Graham (learningtofly,alanski,badastronaut) NB: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch dealers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments above) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the watches that are on sale with them. Please conduct your own due diligence before you make any purchases by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list. VERY IMPORTANT: As always refer to the footnotes and do your due diligence when buying any vintage watch, even from sellers listed as having a green star, since past recommendations are not necessarily a ticket for positive experiences in the future, so ask questions and verify watches through the forum "before" you buy any vintage watch. This is a forumer purchase experience list aimed at helping newbies find a vintage from known sources and is not an official recommendation list or a substitute for doing proper research on watches and sellers before you buy.[/QUOTE]

21 March 2012, 03:02 PM	#158
alwinlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Alwin Location: Singapore Posts: 53	In short I bought an Omega PO 45.5mm non chrono which was pre-used and on display with a bracelet. Upon purchase i requested that I wanted a leather strap which he changed immediately. When I got back home, I wanted to change it back to the original bracelet but Omega told me the bracelet was for the Omega PO chrono and wouldn't fit the non chrono. I emailed Paul about it and they said they are working on resolving this issue and would get back to me 1 week later. This was in August 2011. Haven't heard from them till now. p.s the end links for the PO chrono and non chrono version are different and not interchangeable Last edited by alwinlee; 21 March 2012 at 03:04 PM.. Reason: Added info.

21 March 2012, 02:57 PM	#156
alwinlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Alwin Location: Singapore Posts: 53	Bought an Omega PO late last year from Paul Seregin's Sad to say it wasn't a good experience. Wouldn't buy from them ever again.

21 March 2012, 03:40 PM	#160
alwinlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Alwin Location: Singapore Posts: 53	You're welcome. I actually wasn't expecting any form of compensation, just an apology would suffice but they didn't even bother with that. Oh well it's been half a year and I don't know if I should actually even bother lol

24 March 2012, 11:19 AM	#161
SS Oyster 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,191	I've always found some great vintage pieces at Watchworks in Portland. You won't see them advertised on their website or on display in the store, but if you ask Alex (owner) to see his best Rolex pieces, he'll get them out of the safe and show them to clients he knows or has done business with in the past. He almost always has old Subs (I've seen some with provenance back to Jacques Cousteau), 1655's, old Daytonas, etc. www.watchworksPDX.com ... always ask for Alex

25 March 2012, 04:25 PM	#162
snaggle Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Paul Location: Florida Watch: SubC, DJII, Omegas Posts: 768	There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I am the best vintage seller BY FAR on this planet.

31 March 2012, 02:25 PM	#164
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,689	EDIT: Meant thanks Mark(SS Oyster), not Alex, in the post above:) __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

9 April 2012, 11:10 AM	#165
BarryN "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 2	Rolex Submariner 0552/923-7697 2/75 Hi all. I bought an old Rolex Submariner in a junk shop in Brighton UK around 1987. Can anyone tell me about my watch? On the face is an unusual symbol under the hands it looks like a T in a circle. On the back is another symbol that looks like an upside down V above a shape like a pyramid which is shaded in. It also has the following numbers inscribed on the back 0552/923-7697 and 2/75 Thank you Barry barry@barrynovis.com Last edited by HL65; 9 April 2012 at 08:53 PM..

14 April 2012, 01:26 AM	#168
Roadstar "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 6	Has any forum member dealt with melrosejewelers.com in the past? They seem to have an extensive selection and a decent return policy on paper anyways. Any opinions about them would be appreciated. TL

14 April 2012, 07:33 AM	#169
kaenmorte Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Boris Location: usa Watch: RRR Posts: 44	Thank's for info.

16 April 2012, 05:21 AM	#170
apan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 170	I would like to recommend George Aloi of Tempvus Fvgit. http://www.tempvsfvgit.com George is a gentleman and a very honest dealer. His shop is on the smaller side but he has a solid selection of vintage Rolex. I recently purchased a 1016 from George and am very satisfied with the transaction

3 May 2012, 02:15 PM	#171
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,689	thanks for the info/evaluation ssOyster, snaggle, jedly1, apan. Will add in your recommendations to the next update of the list. __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

4 May 2012, 12:16 AM	#172
Gaucho20 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 43	I am working on buying a vintage bracelet from Steve Mulholland. Has anyone heard that he had a fire at his place? I hope he is doing ok, and that nobody was injured. Last edited by Gaucho20; 4 May 2012 at 12:17 AM.. Reason: Accidentally submitted prior to finishing.

4 May 2012, 01:10 AM	#173
Twsns Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: New York Watch: 5513 Posts: 72	John at 70 bowery NYC is legit, and has a great selection of older Rolex pieces. Fair prices and nice guy. He's there generally after 230pm. Closed Sundays. www.alltiques.com Also in the Diamond District I've really only found dealer who's worth dealing with, his name is Gregory or George and he's located on 37 W. 47th St. You walk in and he's directly to the left. He has a great selection of vintage Rolex parts and watches. Nice and very knowledgeable. I've purchased parts from him before. He's there's through the week till 4pm and not sure his weekend schedule.

4 May 2012, 03:12 AM	#174
sryukon "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Sub 16800 Posts: 373	I just bought my Tudor DayDate 94500 from Derek Dier- http://www.watchestobuy.com/ Very nice and clean. This is Dereks third good purchase Green Star?

9 May 2012, 09:53 AM	#176
ndnbill "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: las vegas, nv Posts: 8	Josh Bonifas I have bought several watches from Josh at Fourtane. Always treated me fairly and their vintage section is very deep. Highest recomendation.

21 May 2012, 06:22 PM	#179
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,689	Hi guys, updates to the list here, thanks for your valuable input, the "Seller list" and "Purchase reference list" have been updated with your recommendations. Derek Dier, who's a Tudor contact, welcome to Green Star status! Also a slight change in rules from here forward, a member making a recommendation will now require to have atleast 50 posts in the "Vintage Section" before recommending a seller they've made a vintage Rolex watch purchase from. This is to avoid fly by members making recommendations here. Offcourse a more accurate way to cross check fly by recommendations is by also cross checking who the members making recommendations are in the the "Purchase Reference List" to ensure that recommendations are from regular forumers/genuine buyers. Lastly, a reminder that while this list is an attempt to assist newbies entering the vintage Rolex world, it can never be 100% and should not be used as a shortcut for doing your own research for the best outcome with your purchases. Nevertheless, it's the best shot we have at putting a genuine list together with some checks and balances in place, enjoy! Vintage purchase experience Feedback List Mark Lerman (mark@webstorm.com) (private sale and id comexfan on ebay) [] [Refer Footnote 1] Jed aka Jedly1(http://www.thetimetraveler.co/) [] Erik Ku (http://10pastten.com/) [] Ben (nbtimes@gmail.com ) [] Jacek Kozubek - jacek.kozubek@gmail.com - San Francisco CA , http://www.hqmilton.com [] Andrew Shear: andrew@sheartime.com/Website:http://www.sheartime.com [] Ralle aka rallepeng www.vintage-watches-international.com [] Steve Mulholland (http://www.mulhollandtime.com/) [] Ian Blowers UKhttp://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/ [] [Refer Footnote 2] Jason Graham aka 964RS http://www.SweepingHand.co.uk, http://www.facebook.com/SweepingHand.co.uk [] Derek Dier- http://www.watchestobuy.com/ for Tudors [] Mike wood (Www.theoldwatchshop.com ) Paul Seregin- http://www.seregins.com http://www.coolvintagewatches.com Zaf Basha- http://www.finertimes.com Ken Jacobs (http://www.wannabuyawatch.com ) Joshua Bonifas: http://www.Fourtane.com Eric Iskin- Oldetown@sonic.net- Santa Rosa, CA- Olde Towne Jewelers Jeff Barnard: http://www.bernardwatch.com/ in Texas Wingate's: http://www.tic-tock.com/wingates/ in Texas Jerome Fellous http://www.watchmywatch.fr/ in France Henrik http://www.subgmt.com in the Netherlands Philippe Capurro of http://www.exoticwatches.net http://www.uhrenfreund.com http://www.thewatchcollectors.com http://www.watchworksPDX.com, in Portland, ask for Alex http://www.tempvsfvgit.com, Tempvus Fvgit, ask for George www.alltiques.com, ask for John at 70 bowery NYC Footnote1:* While there have been no complaints or doubts about the authenticity or quality of his watches by buyers who have bought watches from him and is known for being a red sub expert and for his popular red sub article many of us have used as a guide, some serious allegations have been levelled about some of his watch's paperwork by those in the know, specifically about guarantee papers on some watches of his sold through Ebay. The allegations haven't been supported by concrete "publicly" available evidence by those making the allegations citing privacy reasons but that's not to say the allegations can be discounted and is upto forumers here to make their own judgement based on the facts available. In his favour, there has been no evidence of anything amiss when the watches themselves were taken to a RSC, other service centers, or for an expert appraisal. However in light of the serious allegations about the paperwork, for those purchasing full sets which obviously go at a huge premium compared to loose watches, do verify the paperwork when making a full set purchase, to be sure so that all boxes tick and so that you get your money's worth. Buyers/forumers, please feel free to provide public feedback with evidence if you find anything amiss with purchases. Footnote 2: Please note issues raised by drainaps,Kyle in the earlier sections http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=180461, asking the right questions from this dealer necessary to ascertain originality since this dealer might not have the specific expertise catering specifically to collectors as some of the sellers here, has a 7 days no questions asked return policy A green () against a dealers name indicates that atleast 2 forumers have purchased vintage watches from a dealer here, have received them and are happy. So if atleast 2 of you have purchased a vintage watch from any of the dealers in the list, have received it and are happy with the purchase please say so here so can update the dealers name with a green ().Also note that a single forumer purchasing 2 or more watches from a seller will be considered as one reference and not two. Purchase Reference list: Besides the green star rating, for added green star rating accuracy, refer to this "Purchase Reference list" to get a feel of the quality of watches forumers here have purchased from their respective sellers. Forumers have kindly made recommendations here for sellers so that it helps newcomers here, thanks guys for that! Also this list can help confirm are genuine known forumers/buyers making buyer recommendations and you can do that by having a look at their historic posts here, feel free to use the search function to look up their historic threads for posted watch pictures. Though not 100%, the purpose of this purchase reference list is also to hopefully discourage proxy buyers who make fake recommendations on a dealers behalf so that they think twice before making a recommendation here since to prospective buyers, their thread history is only a simple thread search away. Finally, do make inquiries on the forum. Mark Lerman (ezinternet,cruvon,Chris B,chiubak,Balu) Jedly (Steelerfan65,bb3188, alanski) Eric Ku (ddrees,steelerfan65,skyedog,Beaumont Miller II) Ben (Jason71,yessir69,desfrie) Jacek (ezinternet,Submarino,Mark020,shairan) Andrew Shear (Steelerfan65,Tcaviglioli,Beaumont Miller II,bluemartinfan,Skyedog,Buffy) Ralle (florianw,Burswood) Steve Mulholland (Swearengen,davemcdus,SLS) Ian Blowers (DiamondJack, chiubak,Monobike) Jason Graham (learningtofly,alanski,badastronaut) Derek Dier (ezinternetr,Blassy,sryukon) NB: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch dealers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments above) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the watches that are on sale with them. Please conduct your own due diligence before you make any purchases by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list. VERY IMPORTANT: As always refer to the footnotes and do your due diligence when buying any vintage watch, even from sellers listed as having a green star, since past recommendations are not necessarily a ticket for positive experiences in the future, so ask questions and verify watches through the forum "before" you buy any vintage watch. This is a forumer purchase experience list aimed at helping newbies find a vintage from known sources and is not an official recommendation list or a substitute for doing proper research on watches and sellers before you buy. __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

25 May 2012, 02:49 PM	#180
Dakota Rowntree "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Dakota Rowntre Location: 1664 Richards Ave Posts: 2	I have visited your two recommended sites and I have found the best one....

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