I Heard Only Geezers And Wannabees Wear Rolex...

[Marrk]

Terry, what happened to your watch ... start a thread, okay?

Mark

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

WOW. I was in Lansing all day and I came back to this.

Someone is still feeding the troll.

I had an adventure in Lansing that is not over yet. I am having to send my watch to RSC to get it fixed though it is still under warranty.

People are people wherever you go. You have everyone just trying to get by in life and wanting to get some basic needs met. Not too difficult. We all have hobbies. I tend to let people be with their hobbies as long as they leave mine alone. Many people buy a snowmobile up here in Northern Michigan for a few months of driving on the trails in various areas of our lovely state. They would think nothing of spending $10,000 or more on a snowmobile but would ridicule me for spending over $6,000 on my carbon fiber Colnago C-40 racing bicycle. It is long paid for and it just costs me a little fuel to feed the body and have energy to ride it. Going on the first thousand miles for the season now and starting the second thousand soon. To each their own.

Same with Rolex. Who cares what I have but me?

Terry Newton

[mailman]

Originally Posted by Tools

Hey....

I'm not quite ready for a Geeezer ride yet..........

I always loved Low Riders I remember where and when I saw my first '77, painted grey with the originial red HD logo on the Fat Bobs.

1980. Coral VW, Palm Beach Fla. I was ten and my father and I went to visit my uncle at work and one of the guys he worked owned one and he just came back from lunch on it.

Drag bars, original two-into-one exhaust. I remember it like it was yesterday

Matter of fact, when my motorcycle was on order, I walked into the dealership for something and right in front was a 2000 black Low Rider. I was this close to changing my mind and getting the Low rider.

I started to add up the chrome fromt ebd, swingarm, and all oft he other doo-dads in my head. On top of all of the engine mods I had in mind, I stayed with my initial choice.

[travellingbrit]

Originally Posted by moby33

From JD Power & Assoc, 2007 IQS:
Rank (1 best, top 13 above "Industry Average"):

Above Industry Standard:
Porsche - 1
Lincoln (a GM, American product for all those who love to forget this fact) - 3
M-B - 5
Toyota - 7
Mercury (US, again) - 8
Infinity - 9
Ford (Damn, cheap US automaker again) - 10

Below Industry Standard:
Buick - 14
Chevy - 15
Acura - 17
Nissan - 19
BMW - 21
Saab - 23
Cadillac - 25
And bringing up the absolute bottom, Land Rover (although many can point to Ford for these issues & LR has made numerous changes to improve quality across the board since these stats came out...then again, what else would you say if you were them).

Obviously many were left off the list, but you get the point.

Sorry again, I know this is a Rolex watch thread...I just couldn't help myself sharing this info.

Hey my LR Disco is probably the most poorly built car in the western world and it drives me crazy, bought it new and it's just awful.....but boy has it got soul..and it's my fourth LR in succession (you just have to accept the madness of design for 'amusement only'). I only use it for weekends as my 'made in Stuttgart' Benz is my daily drive, but like my Rollie the disco has a bucketful of charcter and it makes me smile.

[springer]

Thanks pwrslider, it was a tough one to find. I wanted the pearl white, and they made less than 500 of them in '03. I didn't like the artic white they changed to in '04 and was lucky to find this one from the original owner. I haven't seen any other pearl white, '03 anniversary FLHR's around anywhere. They all must be overseas somewhere. LOL

It's a nice change from the chopper or my 2001 FXSTS.

[springer]

tools, you're right about not being ready for a geezer glide, looks more like a trike is in your future!!!!!!!!!!!!

[moby33]

Originally Posted by mailman

Drag bars...I remember it like it was yesterday

Is there something you want to tell us! J/K(oh...the power of taking something out of context...I should be a reporter)???

[Leighton]

Now this is an old Geezer. He's more concerned with the basic pleasures of life than the pursuit of perfection, i.e. a Rolex!

[seantk]

Originally Posted by Leighton

Now this is an old Geezer. He's more concerned with the basic pleasures of life than the pursuit of perfection, i.e. a Rolex!

That looks like perfection from where I am sitting - oh wait it is a wax figurine

Sean

[moby33]

Originally Posted by gmh1013

Are you kidding? You think
I'd join this crummy "snobatorium"?

Why, this whole place sucks!

That's right. The only reason I'm here
is maybe I'll buy it!

LOL. I can't believe I missed this post earlier...probably one of the best on this whole thread (and apparently I'm not the only one that missed it...or maybe most didn't understand). Come on people, lets laugh a little...one of the true classic comedies of all time!!!!

[Neville]

Very odd list of which I disagree with much of. Lincoln is a Ford product btw

Originally Posted by travellingbrit

Hey my LR Disco is probably the most poorly built car in the western world and it drives me crazy, bought it new and it's just awful.....but boy has it got soul..and it's my fourth LR in succession (you just have to accept the madness of design for 'amusement only'). I only use it for weekends as my 'made in Stuttgart' Benz is my daily drive, but like my Rollie the disco has a bucketful of charcter and it makes me smile.

[moby33]

Originally Posted by Neville

Lincoln is a Ford product btw

Of course it is, so? I also realize the same about Mercury.

Edit: Nevermind...I just went back and re-read my post. I now see your point...(I have no idea why I said GM...my bad).

[Rawhyde]

I'm not a snob, just an ordinary guy who likes Rolex watches for two simple reasons:

1. They are visually attractive. (Most of them anyway.)
2. Rolex watches can last more than a year on my arm. No other brand can say that. (Among the ones I've tried)

I also enjoy TRF because it's just a cool place on the web to hang out.

Rawhyde

[Marrk]

The English value a vehicle more highly if it breaks down a lot.

Do I have to mention the words "Lucas Electronics" . . . ?

Originally Posted by travellingbrit

Hey my LR Disco is probably the most poorly built car in the western world and it drives me crazy, bought it new and it's just awful.....but boy has it got soul..and it's my fourth LR in succession (you just have to accept the madness of design for 'amusement only'). I only use it for weekends as my 'made in Stuttgart' Benz is my daily drive, but like my Rollie the disco has a bucketful of charcter and it makes me smile.

[jtrader]

Originally Posted by f16570

Wealth cannot be catigorised.
The value is in the pleasure that it brings or gives.
I would not dream of spending £5,000 on a whirlpool for the garden as I cannot see the value in it, but that does not someone who has one is wrong.
Spend as you see fit and do not criticise others for the way they spend their's.
Just do not support the market in counterfiet goods, you are only helping fund crime.

YES Yes I agree, Very good and Well Said

Isn't it funny how one little coment that was over heard and repeated can cause such an explosive debate!!!

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Marrk

The English value a vehicle more highly if it breaks down a lot.

Do I have to mention the words "Lucas Electronics" . . . ?

The 'Prince of Darkness'.

[cmr]

Originally Posted by directioneng

The 'Prince of Darkness'.

you used to be able to buy those teeshirts from a magazine for mg accessories called mg mitten. lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/1959-MG-Auto-Acc...2em118Q2el1247

found it!!! lol

http://www.englishparts.com/products...71/TEELPD.html

[swatty]

This thread is still going

[moby33]

I've met too many people that don't care about wearing fine watches & they drive 'average' cars yet are significantly wealthy...while others are sporting $20K+ watches & always seem to have a new luxury car yet not worth a dime & up to their eyeballs in debt.

Because of those experiences, I tend to put little value (or thought) into people that sport (or don't sport) "status symbol" objects. I think we all learned in grade school, "Don't judge a book by its cover." The older I get, the more I realize how true that simple saying tends to be.

My

Cheers.

[Tony-GB]

Originally Posted by Tools

Rolex watches are at the top of the heap because of the product they make, not because of any highly detailed and intricate hand work on the pieces and parts that make up that great movement.

Nobody can compete, so they try to find their own niche..

. hand made

. exotic materials

. "Revolutionary" movement

Some have even "fixed" phoney auctions to demonstrate how "valuable" their watches are...

...But nobody is knocking them of the top..........

And when all else fails, let's mention how much older than Rolex their company is...!!

[astcell]

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

.... One day we pulled up and some traffic lights and were coated (as well as most of the interior leather) with McDonald's thickshake!!!!!!

That sucks. My Dad drives a Rolls Royce now and then, and he gets people pointing out parking spots for him!

Originally Posted by f16570

I for one do not parade my wealth on my wrist.
I am no shallow wannabe.
My greatest achievement, bringing up two girls who have turned out to be well adjusted, polite and astute ladies.
This is what makes me a shining example.

I am more than what I do or do not have in the bank, the watch on my wrist, the girl on my arm,... you get the point. But there are those who have nothing but their watch, and they make sure everyone in their site knows how grand the watch is because it reinforces their own paper thin belief in themselves.

Originally Posted by swatty

This thread is still going

I answered this thread early on but it just goes to show that we have to keep checking back. No thread goes this long without a hijacking!

[Jimbits76]

This thread is still going

I for one am glad the thread is stil going.

1. I missed the original debate and chimed in quite late on it.

2. It's great food for thought. Threads like this (in the majority with a few troll exceptions) provide a decent debate and allow us as individuals to express our personalities on this cold, electronic medium.

As many above have mentioned. There is more to life than the money in your bank account or the watch on your wrists. Discussions like this allow members to open up to each other and prove that we are not all as superficial and shallow as the rest of the world obviously thinks we are.

I love this forum and my member friends. I've missed this!!!!!!

J

[rpryan55]

Well, this may cause me some grief, but let me respond to Tools' original post here. The fact of the matter is that people with millions and millions of dollars probably do not buy a Rolex - they buy Urwerk (50K +) or A. Lange & Sohn (name your price), or any or a number of other brands whose average price for their watches are in the stratosphere. And those people who have a great deal of money and are older probably ARE wearing Rolex as that brand was THE status symbol among the non-hoy paloy twenty or so years ago. Recently wealthy people are some of the most insecure I've met when it comes to status symbols - virtually none of them are their own person when it comes to material things.

That said, the trend setters in Hollywood and London would disagree with our country club friends - it seems the hottest watch, and the ones you see on the wrists of the fabulously famous, is a Rolex. Whether its a Sub or a Daytona, new (or, increasingly, vintage) it is the latest hot watch.

But fads come and go. Used to be a Yellow Gold DD at 36mm was the status symbol for success. Now Rolex itself wants to make that status symbol their larger platinum version of the DD. And, of course, there are several watch companies out there that want you and I to believe that their multi-thousand dollar watch is the pinnacle of horology and the ultimate status symbol for success. Fact of the matter is that I've owned several watches from high-end manufacturers and IMHO Rolex is the most practical for a daily wearer. It is the best - bar none - for every day wear. That is the true genius of the brand - it can take a beating and still perform magnificently. I'm sorry, but you cannot way that about the brands that our country club buddy is talking about.

Montblanc is the same - it can be dropped, banged and gnawed and it still performs. Yes, there are more expensive out there (Pelikan, for instance), but none is built for every day use like Montblanc. Porsche is the same - yes, there are Lambos and Ferraris and others that are more expensive than the Porsche, but none that can take the day to day use as imperviously as the car from Stuttgart.

And as for Harley-Davidson, well..... yea, only wannabes buy those - people who wannabe free from jerks like those at Tools' country club and ride and ride and ride......

[mike]

Gentlemen, this thread has had some excellent points and great discussion. If I may add one area that often gets overlooked.

There are those well heeled "seasoned" individuals/collectors with very deep pockets. These are people, known as the "supercollector" in some circles that have the ability to delve into six figure pricing on select Rolex watches--multiple times. Quite, unassuming, these gentlemen (and ladies) wear some of these pieces on a regular basis. The casual observer has no idea some of these pieces carry a price tag of two or three times that of a PP or other "ultra" brand and much more history.

If you ever are fortunate enough to see a COMEX, MIL SUB, JCK, or some others on someone's wrist think about the wearer behind the watch.

[f16570]

Tugger, Thanks for the honesty, doubt the Harley boys are gonna agree.
For America with long straight roads the ability to corner is not high on the agenda.

[f16570]

Perhaps the odd one or two actually like the look, handling & image?

[sfrolex]

Originally Posted by Tugger

lets cut the bull and talk real about a Harley shall we? They are shit at what they do compared to a japenese bike. they're slow, they don't go round corners well, they vibrate too much etc etc...yet posers still buy them for the image, they trot out the usual garbage to hide that fact, but the real reason is still image

I'm sure a lot of people buy Harleys because of their vast abilities to create noise. Japanese bikes are completely different in style. I doubt their paths cross often. Japanese bikes (sleeker, quieter) are in a different league from Harleys.

[rpryan55]

Originally Posted by Tugger

Harley bikes are stuck in a time warp... bought mainly by weekend warriors (in their 40's and 50's) who are living the dream (image again) or "born again" bikers who have returned to biking after many years away.... If they wanted the best handling, or fastest bike out there, they'd be buying Jap, but they want the IMAGE at their age, so they buy in to that Easy Rider image and vomit up the cash for a Harley....but oh no! it's not about image to them, they'd never be so crass!!!

Actually, I've ridden metrics and I've ridden Harleys - they are completely different animals and built for completely different purposes. Harley engineers a great bike, and looking at their latest models I'd hardly say that they are stuck in a time warp. Going out with a large group of Harley riders, as I have, reveals that they are not "mainly...weekend warriors (in their 40's and 50's [sic])". And, BTW, I've never even seen Easy Rider. But, to be fair, you should hear what Harley riders say about metric lovers. It's equally inane.

[Marrk]

But, Tugger, let's not forget, Harley Davidson makes the best 1934 motorcycle that you can buy in 2008.

Originally Posted by sfrolex

I'm sure a lot of people buy Harleys because of their vast abilities to create noise. Japanese bikes are completely different in style. I doubt their paths cross often. Japanese bikes (sleeker, quieter) are in a different league from Harleys.

[boa2]

I worked for years in the motorcycle industry, and also went to school to train as a Harley Davidson Mechanic. To suggest that the bikes are junk, and that only wannabees buy them, is downright silly.

What do Harley Davidson, Rolex and McIntosh all have in common? They're all wildly successful, face no equivalent competitor, and they all get repeatedly bashed with the very same, unfounded generalizations. I never understand how someone can embrace a hobby, and then slam the leading manufacturers who ensure its very existence.

[rpryan55]

Originally Posted by boa2

I worked for years in the motorcycle industry, and also went to school to train as a Harley Davidson Mechanic. To suggest that the bikes are junk, and that only wannabees buy them, is downright silly.

What do Harley Davidson, Rolex and McIntosh all have in common? They're all wildly successful, face no equivalent competitor, and they all get repeatedly bashed with the very same, unfounded generalizations. I never understand how someone can embrace a hobby, and then slam the leading manufacturers who ensure its very existence.

Hear, hear.