I was stunned…didn’t know what to say, not exactly fake..but..

[INC]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I don’t know what to think… it wasn’t a FAKE…. But….

It is a "homage" according to the new terms and conditions of CW@TRF

An interesting addition to this that I saw some Omega Alaska on Ebay which are remarkably cheap - and then I figure out that all of these are "home made" tuning of original Omegas. They simply replace some parts with original OEM parts, and e'voila: You have a far more expensive watch for far less. And the strange fact is, that you can have an absolutely same watch, as all parts are REAL Omegas which could have been build togeter into an Alaska in the factory.

Is it a fake? No. Is it a franken? No. Will I purchase it? No.

But whoever looks to this, will think, this is for sure an original one. And as long as this watch will not go for a factory service, no one(!) will know, that't the actual watch is NOT an Alaska. Even the ones who purchase this without box and papers.

[Jocke]

I made my franken's for myself in a way that I like them. Not trying to fool anyone, mostly I made models that Rolex not will do.
I will never sell a franken and I always keeps the original parts to put it back as original again. So if a guy have a SS Sub and like
the blue insert I can't see a problem with that. The problem is when they come up for sale.

Customizing a Rolex is no worse than changing the rims on a Mercedes.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Jocke

I made my franken's for myself in a way that I like them. Not trying to fool anyone, mostly I made models that Rolex not will do.
I will never sell a franken and I always keeps the original parts to put it back as original again. So if a guy have a SS Sub and like
the blue insert I can't see a problem with that. The problem is when they come up for sale.

Customizing a Rolex is no worse than changing the rims on a Mercedes.

You CHANGE the rims on a MERCEDES!?!?!?!?!?!?

[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

You CHANGE the rims on a MERCEDES!?!?!?!?!?!?

Serious question. My e46 330ci came with 17” M wheels. I changed them to 18” M wheels. Does that mean my car is trying to be a fake?


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[Chewbacca]

I’m going to set up a TRF Horological Stolen Valor Battalion and dedicate more resources to seek and destroy these charlatans.

100% No mercy.

100% No quarter.

100% No escape.


We’ll find you and your bezels.


Who’s with me!!!!!?????!!!!!!!!

[Scholar]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

Serious question. My e46 330ci came with 17” M wheels. I changed them to 18” M wheels. Does that mean my car is trying to be a fake?


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By this forum’s recent standards, yes lol.

[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by Scholar

By this forum’s recent standards, yes lol.

Well that sucks. Even worse it came without a model badge. And I bought a M oil filler cover for it.

Sorry to have let you all down.


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[Old Geezer]

Wow, this thread is still going
I'm in the camp of to each their own. I don't really care what others do with their own possessions. When I see something where someone has embellished what they have and it resembles something more expensive, I chuckle to myself and move on. Most common are the badges on cars. IMO, these are just sad.
In Paul's shoes I would have probably just said "cool" and left it at that when the guy explained he had modded his SS piece with a blue bezel / insert.

[Scholar]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

Well that sucks. Even worse it came without a model badge. And I bought a M oil filler cover for it.

Sorry to have let you all down.


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I’m sure OP can prescribe some act of penance you’re supposed to do at the shrine of Daimler. Perhaps with the poor bezel swap guy as the sacrifice.

[cloudken]

I haven't read all the replies here but I also think he was joking when he grinned and said he pretended it was a WG sub, trying to not rattle you, but seems he did anyway. There is no point in faking something like this as only Rolex guys know a 126619lb and what it looks like. It's also a weird thing to model after as the WG blue bezel sub should really be SS to begin with. You better believe that if Rolex ever comes out with a SS blue bezel/dial sub, the WG version would TANK and probably even the LV, bluesy would take a hit too. Actually he probably has the superior version because he has the guts to make something thats clearly in demand for decades yet Rolex won't make for business reasons.

Jokes aside, he probably just likes a blue bezel SS sub. Like others said this is fine as it was common for 16610s have had AM blue bezels. Plus he admitted it fairly easily so I doubt there was any deceit intent.

I have Tudors like the Pepsi and Panda because I can't get the Rolex equivalents, is that similar?

OTOH if it weren't for Rolex and the collectors market being so strict on originality, the watches wouldn't be so expensive and popular and we wouldn't be having this long thread.

[Xelor5513]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Good question, and yes, he stated he was pretending he had a PM Rolex.

I didn’t know what to say after that.

That's a big own on his part... Maybe after that experience he'll refine his answer to: 'I'm a big fan of the blue bezel, not really trying to steal PM respect.' Sounds like something I might say if I tried to pull that off...but not saying I would

[steveclr]

Originally Posted by cloudken

I haven't read all the replies here but I also think he was joking when he grinned and said he pretended it was a WG sub, trying to not rattle you, but seems he did anyway. There is no point in faking something like this as only Rolex guys know a 126619lb and what it looks like. It's also a weird thing to model after as the WG blue bezel sub should really be SS to begin with. You better believe that if Rolex ever comes out with a SS blue bezel/dial sub, the WG version would TANK and probably even the LV, bluesy would take a hit too. Actually he probably has the superior version because he has the guts to make something thats clearly in demand for decades yet Rolex won't make for business reasons.

Jokes aside, he probably just likes a blue bezel SS sub. Like others said this is fine as it was common for 16610s have had AM blue bezels. Plus he admitted it fairly easily so I doubt there was any deceit intent.

I have Tudors like the Pepsi and Panda because I can't get the Rolex equivalents, is that similar?

OTOH if it weren't for Rolex and the collectors market being so strict on originality, the watches wouldn't be so expensive and popular and we wouldn't be having this long thread.

Yes, it may be the case that he was just making a little joke. If not, he should be imprisoned for attempting to falsify a metal.

[rcwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by Carguy87

In case you ended up here by mistake…this IS a watch forum.

People care. Maybe you don’t (which is totally your right) but clearly pages of replies later, people do care.

Nobody cares what somebody else is doing with their own watch. Or they shouldn’t. Its Karen behavior to police other people about this. I care a lot about the watches I own and want to collect. Because they are for me.


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[t65tampa]

I would consider going in the other direction - switching out the blue bezel of the WG Submariner for a black one. Perfect stealth LN white gold version.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Jocke

Why didn't you show him your girlfriend Paul? When you discuss fake's.

Savage response haha

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by t65tampa

I would consider going in the other direction - switching out the blue bezel of the WG Submariner for a black one. Perfect stealth LN white gold version.

That would look sweet.

I don’t really take issue with this situation. It’s reversible. It’s not a permanent modification (if I’m following correctly).

It’s funny when the 126710 BLRO first came out, it was only available on jubilee. I of course instantly tried to put it on my BLNR PCL bracelet and what do you know, it worked!!!!

I had a few people tell me it was a franken watch which I still believe to be absurd. But anyway, obviously now it’s offered in that exact configuration but at the time I had absolutely no problem wearing a SS watch that looked just like the White Gold version. Although I never “pretended”’ it was white gold.

[TheHulk]

P o s e r!!!!!

[Emily]

Is it just me or is this all just a bit odd? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a huge thread on the meaning of coloured pigments on watch making materials.

[ol' Rex]

Originally Posted by Emily

Is it just me or is this all just a bit odd? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a huge thread on the meaning of coloured pigments on watch making materials.

Welcome to the wonderful world of watch weenies!



For my part I see this as a non-issue, and I don't really believe this person was trying to pretend to have a more expensive model. Nobody in the real word would know that a blue bezel signifies a white gold watch; and everybody who is familiar with this fact also knows that the white gold model has a bracelet with polished center links. In other words: This supposed "forgery" can and will fool no one.

I think think the guy just likes blue.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by huncho

this is why i don't compliment or say anything about anyone's watch in public anymore. there's usually nothing to gain from it and it often ends in some kind of awkward interaction

10000000000% on this. I don’t because of this.

I am curious as to how this dude got the bezel? White gold bezels with blue ceramic inserts don’t grow on trees…

[StuartM1962]

I really don't see a problem with this. It is his watch and he can do what he likes with it. What is the difference between this and changing the bracelet?

[HogwldFLTR]

There are so many aftermarket parts on the internet it's easy to modify watches. I'm not sure that many give two thoughts about creating a fake when they make a change. They just want a certain look. JMO!!

[Boopie]

Not my cup of tea.

Judging from the various ice blue dials for sale online right now, I’d say that a number of people are buying these dials, intended exclusively for platinum references, into other watches.

[Pyclah]

What a snob post by the OP. You must have a lot of time on your hands to write such a long post about a guy who put a different color Rolex bezel on his rolex . 😂. And he wasn’t faking anything, he told you right off the bat that its not a WG.
“And I could say is Uh ohh”” 😂. Your white gold sells under retail anyways

[Cwillis0001]

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Pyclah

What a snob post by the OP. You must have a lot of time on your hands to write such a long post about a guy who put a different color Rolex bezel on his rolex . 😂. And he wasn’t faking anything, he told you right off the bat that its not a WG.
“And I could say is Uh ohh”” 😂. Your white gold sells under retail anyways

You must have more time on your hand to bother responding

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by In The End

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[minute_man]

Originally Posted by brandrea

[superdog]

Originally Posted by Cwillis0001

I don't see a problem at all.

I’m with you.

I see no issues at all. Used to be folks swapped bezels all the time. Bracelets. Etc.

I think it’s great.

[Number3]

Well, this took a turn…..