Patek 5170P long term collectability ?

[benlee]

Not going anywhere for sure.

[Bearxj86]

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[Josh1000]

But it's not strong it's cheaper than my list

[ap1]

Have

[sameer222]

Mine's a keeper

[ap1]

Originally Posted by benlee

Not going anywhere for sure.

So good

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by benlee

Not going anywhere for sure.

[mps354]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

All u guys still own it?

Still have mine and I am a bit of a serial flipper to be honest

[Bearxj86]

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[timepieceluvr]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

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I think Ninja lost the bet...


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[Humble michael]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

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Jin, that is a beautiful timepiece. Curious,how often do you wear it? I wonder if you are like me- I love my5327 but only wear it,probably once every 2 weeks.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by timepieceluvr

I think Ninja lost the bet...


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I don’t think it’s been 2 months yet lol

[Bearxj86]

Originally Posted by james272

Jin, that is a beautiful timepiece. Curious,how often do you wear it? I wonder if you are like me- I love my5327 but only wear it,probably once every 2 weeks.

I probably wear it once a week at least for a few hours :)

[singaporepatek]

5170 will never be collectible as 5070.

[T3F]

Originally Posted by singaporepatek

5170 will never be collectible as 5070.

I was going to say that I disagree, though I don't know that I do -- for some reason, the market seems to heavily favor the 5070, and I'm not sure if I see that changing.

However, I will say that I personally think the 5170 should be the more collectable of the two. The new calibre is technically superior, prettier, and though it seems that most collectors think differently, the fact Patek went fully in-house for this movement (not to mention the fact that this is the first time they've done this, and that this new calibre is likely to have a long run) is a major positive. The size is perfect for pretty much anyone with any size of wrist. The proportions are also flawless, and though this is subjective, I think the case shape is much nicer. Lastly, I think the dial layout is a lot cleaner, and the dial on the 5170P with the baguette indices is unbeatable.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying I'm "right" here -- market prices would certainly indicate that most think I'm not -- and, as with nearly everything in the world of watches, this is totally subjective.

[ap1]

Originally Posted by T3F

I was going to say that I disagree, though I don't know that I do -- for some reason, the market seems to heavily favor the 5070, and I'm not sure if I see that changing.

However, I will say that I personally think the 5170 should be the more collectable of the two. The new calibre is technically superior, prettier, and though it seems that most collectors think differently, the fact Patek went fully in-house for this movement (not to mention the fact that this is the first time they've done this, and that this new calibre is likely to have a long run) is a major positive. The size is perfect for pretty much anyone with any size of wrist. The proportions are also flawless, and though this is subjective, I think the case shape is much nicer. Lastly, I think the dial layout is a lot cleaner, and the dial on the 5170P with the baguette indices is unbeatable.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying I'm "right" here -- market prices would certainly indicate that most think I'm not -- and, as with nearly everything in the world of watches, this is totally subjective.

Hockey puck or perfect shape?

[Bearxj86]

My personal opinion is that Patek made a lot of 5170s but not a lot of 5170Ps (perhaps less than 1000 pieces). Not as rare as the 5070P but it does have aesthetics, size, and in-house movement on its side.

Assuming they made less than 1000 pieces in the 1 year run, I believe it will at least retain value at around MSRP of $92k with some potential upside in the long run (not counting on it myself). The dial, case, , movement and material (platinum) are simply gorgeous.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

My personal opinion is that Patek made a lot of 5170s but not a lot of 5170Ps (perhaps less than 1000 pieces). Not as rare as the 5070P but it does have aesthetics, size, and in-house movement on its side.

Assuming they made less than 1000 pieces in the 1 year run, I believe it will at least retain value at around MSRP of $92k with some potential upside in the long run (not counting on it myself). The dial, case, , movement and material (platinum) are simply gorgeous.

I’ve hear more than 100 pieces but I could be wrong. I mean I been wrong about how long you’ve kept yours lol

[locutus49]

Ninja, you are never wrong, you are only misquoted or misunderstood.

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I’ve hear more than 100 pieces but I could be wrong. I mean I been wrong about how long you’ve kept yours lol

[pam66]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I’ve hear more than 100 pieces but I could be wrong. I mean I been wrong about how long you’ve kept yours lol

i have heard 1200 pieces of 5170P

[singaporepatek]

Originally Posted by T3F

I was going to say that I disagree, though I don't know that I do -- for some reason, the market seems to heavily favor the 5070, and I'm not sure if I see that changing.



However, I will say that I personally think the 5170 should be the more collectable of the two. The new calibre is technically superior, prettier, and though it seems that most collectors think differently, the fact Patek went fully in-house for this movement (not to mention the fact that this is the first time they've done this, and that this new calibre is likely to have a long run) is a major positive. The size is perfect for pretty much anyone with any size of wrist. The proportions are also flawless, and though this is subjective, I think the case shape is much nicer. Lastly, I think the dial layout is a lot cleaner, and the dial on the 5170P with the baguette indices is unbeatable.



Just to clarify, I'm not saying I'm "right" here -- market prices would certainly indicate that most think I'm not -- and, as with nearly everything in the world of watches, this is totally subjective.

I would be honored to own either. I love 5070J in YG with black dial but I already have 5905P with black dial so I feel like it would be too many black dial Patek in my collection. Only reason I bought 5905 is because of 42mm size, so I definitely want to buy 5070 at some point because it also 42mm size. 5170 feels like a small calatrava on my wrist and it basically uses a calatrava case which I don’t like, 5070 is so unique. I’m built like a sumo wrestler so I can’t wear tiny Patek and even 40mm wears small on me.

[Passionata]

5170P one of the best pp ever seen ,friend s wife has one .Stellar
5170p>any nautilus

[pam66]

Originally Posted by Passionata

5170P one of the best pp ever seen ,friend s wife has one .Stellar
5170p>any nautilus

if i am the friend whose wife has the 5170P let me tell you that i chose the watch and she took it away from me. so there you have the backdrop....grrrrrrrr grrrrrr grrrrr

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by pam66

if i am the friend whose wife has the 5170P let me tell you that i chose the watch and she took it away from me. so there you have the backdrop....grrrrrrrr grrrrrr grrrrr

The backup is a tudor pepsi...so sad.

[Passionata]

Originally Posted by pam66

if i am the friend whose wife has the 5170P let me tell you that i chose the watch and she took it away from me. so there you have the backdrop....grrrrrrrr grrrrrr grrrrr

Sure u r ,and i know the story but it still doesn t change that
A,the watch is gorgeous
B,your wife deserve it

Cheers pal


PS have u got my email regarding Milan?

[pam66]

Originally Posted by Passionata

Sure u r ,and i know the story but it still doesn t change that
A,the watch is gorgeous
B,your wife deserve it

Cheers pal


PS have u got my email regarding Milan?

thanks mate, will be in touch and pass on your message to my wife. and thanks for milan info, we are on it.
cheers!!!!!!

[pam66]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

The backup is a tudor pepsi...so sad.

it is cooler than ice cream!!

[sameer222]

Not the reason I acquired mine, but, I believe that the diamond indices on the 5170P alone will warrant collectible status for the piece. Not speaking for all 5170s, just the P.
Factory set diamonds from Patek are spectacular (when not overdone).

[Josh1000]

I am too poor to buy a watch today and worry if it will be worth so.ething in the future!!! Buy it, wear it, enjoy it and if after a few years you havent lost too.much then bonus!!! If you treat this as an asset class then that's a whole another thread!! We bought watches 20 years ago to wear....we didnt bother if you could make a buck on it the next day!!! If you have so much in a watch as % of wealth that it hurts when it depreciates...then maybe you need to rethink that strategy

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by Josh1000

I am too poor to buy a watch today and worry if it will be worth so.ething in the future!!! Buy it, wear it, enjoy it and if after a few years you havent lost too.much then bonus!!! If you treat this as an asset class then that's a whole another thread!! We bought watches 20 years ago to wear....we didnt bother if you could make a buck on it the next day!!! If you have so much in a watch as % of wealth that it hurts when it depreciates...then maybe you need to rethink that strategy

Back to being poor... oh well.

I use a different gauge... “stripper money”. If it’s more than that then it is considered a lot. Less than that then it’s a little.