Official vacheron overseas thread!!

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by RaZCaL

Incoming! Absolute stunner!





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Good golly that’s stunning! Congrats.


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[RobHK]

Originally Posted by RaZCaL

Incoming! Absolute stunner!

Unusual one, nice! How was the thought process behind choosing this one?

[solaire]

Originally Posted by BNABOD

Says it on the inside of the bracelet if I recall correctly

Braclet if French
Clasp if Swiss


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[RaZCaL]

Originally Posted by RobHK

Unusual one, nice! How was the thought process behind choosing this one?

I put it on the wrist and felt in love with it! Why do you say it’s unusual?

[RobHK]

Originally Posted by RaZCaL

I put it on the wrist and felt in love with it! Why do you say it’s unusual?

First time I see anyone who bought this watch. The gold watches in general are more rare and the ones that buy gold more commonly go for 4500v or the Perp Calendar. I think it rocks, I have the reverse panda chrono myself! Is there an option to get it on the gold bracelet?

[RaZCaL]

Originally Posted by RobHK

First time I see anyone who bought this watch. The gold watches in general are more rare and the ones that buy gold more commonly go for 4500v or the Perp Calendar. I think it rocks, I have the reverse panda chrono myself! Is there an option to get it on the gold bracelet?

Thanks! It was available and offered to me by my AD so I couldn’t turn it down once I put it on my wrist. Been hoping and waiting for the SS blue dial 4500v for awhile. The chrono does not come factory with the gold bracelet. It comes with brown rubber and alligator straps. You can special order the gold bracelet for $18,000.

[RaZCaL]

I don’t buy watches to sell but I also would like my watches to maintain it’s value. What are your thoughts on the pink gold Chrono 5500v down the line? Like someone had said, you don’t see much (if any) of this version on the market. I know it’s not the hot 4500v that everyone wants. It was a huge purchase for me so would like some feedbacks. Thanks

[Toproll85]

Originally Posted by Giangos

I’ve seen and read many reasons why people sell watches. Goodbye VC because the bracelet is made in France followed up by an acknowledgment that it’s the best trinity bracelet ….
Wow.
You must really dislike the French.
Nothing wrong with principles, but that one is out there!

It has nothing to do with loving or hating the French !

I just find this detail regrettable! Outsource it in France, as can other components be?

It remains a Swiss manufacture, a Swiss watch, which should provide a living for subcontractors from the country and if possible make house above all.

We pay dearly for these watches to deserve the maximum in this sense.
We are sold home-made, but in fact it's made abroad. It is supposedly an artisanal manufacture, high watchmaking, not a factory with maximum profitability.

It is not to tarnish VC, it is just a detail that personally saddens me ...

CEO Bennhamias of AP said in his speech at the Golden Needle 2020, it is important for watchmaking to support and work suppliers and it's a shame to go overseas to save 50 dollars on a part ! A better philosophy.
I think he is absolutely right.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by RaZCaL

Incoming! Absolute stunner!

What happened to the date wheel?

[RaZCaL]

Originally Posted by fmc000

What happened to the date wheel?

I guess bad lighting in that photo. It’s fine.

[BNABOD]

Originally Posted by Toproll85

It has nothing to do with loving or hating the French !

I just find this detail regrettable! Outsource it in France, as can other components be?

It remains a Swiss manufacture, a Swiss watch, which should provide a living for subcontractors from the country and if possible make house above all.

We pay dearly for these watches to deserve the maximum in this sense.
We are sold home-made, but in fact it's made abroad. It is supposedly an artisanal manufacture, high watchmaking, not a factory with maximum profitability.

It is not to tarnish VC, it is just a detail that personally saddens me ...

CEO Bennhamias of AP said in his speech at the Golden Needle 2020, it is important for watchmaking to support and work suppliers and it's a shame to go overseas to save 50 dollars on a part ! A better philosophy.
I think he is absolutely right.

They do share a border so yeah outsourced if you wish to call it but as mentioned before you have a ton of French worker that work in Switzerland and commute from France to go work for these big brands so while sitting on their rear in Switzerland the person building your watch could or could not be Swiss. somehow having the bracelet made on the other side of the border, a stone through away (literally ) is a big deal ? for all you know Richemont owns the place that makes the bracelet in France ? At least they are honest nuf (or obligated to?) to put made in France on the bracelet .

[solaire]

Originally Posted by Toproll85

It has nothing to do with loving or hating the French !

I just find this detail regrettable! Outsource it in France, as can other components be?

It remains a Swiss manufacture, a Swiss watch, which should provide a living for subcontractors from the country and if possible make house above all.

We pay dearly for these watches to deserve the maximum in this sense.
We are sold home-made, but in fact it's made abroad. It is supposedly an artisanal manufacture, high watchmaking, not a factory with maximum profitability.

It is not to tarnish VC, it is just a detail that personally saddens me ...

CEO Bennhamias of AP said in his speech at the Golden Needle 2020, it is important for watchmaking to support and work suppliers and it's a shame to go overseas to save 50 dollars on a part ! A better philosophy.
I think he is absolutely right.

Compete rubbish the main part of of the watch is swiss made. The straps etc are accessories.

Do you also want to complain becuase the outerbox is made in Thailand?

The France made braclets have nothing to do with cost saving. It's more to do with production capacity during covid.

VC has used a French manufacturer for leather straps before.

They also have loads of watch makers who originally where born in France. Why would they turn away talent?


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[Toproll85]

Originally Posted by BNABOD

They do share a border so yeah outsourced if you wish to call it but as mentioned before you have a ton of French worker that work in Switzerland and commute from France to go work for these big brands so while sitting on their rear in Switzerland the person building your watch could or could not be Swiss. somehow having the bracelet made on the other side of the border, a stone through away (literally ) is a big deal ? for all you know Richemont owns the place that makes the bracelet in France ? At least they are honest nuf (or obligated to?) to put made in France on the bracelet .

Whether it is made by French, Indian or Ashkenazi Jews is not the question !! it's totally irrelevant. Of course, companies are multi-national and cultural in their staff.
Why are you focusing on people ?!

Did you understand the meaning of my remarks?
Please read me again...

[uniqueMR]

fyi:
Canton of Geneva is French speaking canton of Switzerland.

Rolex, Patek, AP, Vacheron, so forth are located in French speaking areas of Switzerland.


Not a big deal if something is made in the France or in EU :)
In regards to people I have no comments. Our character/humanity define us, not ethnicity or citizenship.

Lastly enjoy the watches :)

[BNABOD]

Originally Posted by Toproll85

Whether it is made by French, Indian or Ashkenazi Jews is not the question !! it's totally irrelevant. Of course, companies are multi-national and cultural in their staff.
Why are you focusing on people ?!

Did you understand the meaning of my remarks?
Please read me again...

I got it the first go around thank you . You may want to relax a little bit , I think you are taking this rather too seriously . Swiss made still means what 60% of the cost blah blah so the movement work is done in Switzerland the case is as well and yes the bracelet is made in France, either accept it or move on . Is it the quality that you expected yes or no ? and if made in France bugs you soooo very much and you think Swiss made is the bees knees then I hate to break it to you but many many many Swiss manufacturers have parts cases bracelets made somewhere else than Switzerland.

[solaire]

As an FYI

Just checked & the steel braclet and clasp are different model codes on the Swiss & French made ones.


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[RobHK]

My SS bracelet is also made in France, delivery in Sep this year. When did VC switch?

[Nathan_]

Originally Posted by 037

Like I mentioned earlier, the number on the strap itself is 083230. Each end of the strap has the same number. If the color I posted matches yours then you must have received the Everest strap—which might explain why your AD insisted that they ordered “grey”.

Hopefully that helps a bit.

it does, thank you for clarifying

[BendyBee]

Originally Posted by RobHK

My SS bracelet is also made in France, delivery in Sep this year. When did VC switch?

My 7900 (2020) says swiss on the clasp (i think) but not on the bracelet.

[solaire]

Originally Posted by BendyBee

My 7900 (2020) says swiss on the clasp (i think) but not on the bracelet.

It's a Swiss braclet.


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[solaire]

Reference guides.

Drop me a DM if you need more explanation


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[RobHK]

More interesting would be if there are slight differences in the look and feel of the bracelets produced in different factories..

[JakeK]

My 4500v bracelet says made in france. Doesn't bother me one bit. I don't know all the context for why it is made in France, but i can see it is beautifully made nonetheless.

If it bothers Toproll85, so be it, no need for others to get all hot and bothered by that!

[solaire]

Originally Posted by RobHK

More interesting would be if there are slight differences in the look and feel of the bracelets produced in different factories..

The Swiss one makes me feel intellectual

The French makes me feel argumentative

All jokes aside apart from the identification markings they feel and look the same.

I'll view them under a macro lens this evening but so far I don't notice any difference.


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[solaire]

Originally Posted by JakeK

My 4500v bracelet says made in france. Doesn't bother me one bit. I don't know all the context for why it is made in France, but i can see it is beautifully made nonetheless.

If it bothers Toproll85, so be it, no need for others to get all hot and bothered by that!

I think Toproll85 might be the sme user who riled up the FB VC group...


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[JakeK]

Originally Posted by solaire

The Swiss one makes me feel intellectual

The French makes me feel argumentative

All jokes aside apart from the identification markings they feel and look the same.

I'll view them under a macro lens this evening but so far I don't notice any difference.


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lol. sums this up perfectly.

[1sttimerolex]

I got mine early 2020 and it only says Swiss Made on the clasp and nothing on the bracelet itself, other than a note that it is stainless steel.

Gotta admit this post made me fish out the bracelet from my sock drawer to take a look. Mines on the rubber strap 95% of the time

[PBJ1925]

Took a look for fun for a data point for those who are tracking, 7900v here from 2021.

Swiss made on the clasp, made in France on the bracelet.

[037]

I have a mid/late 2021 bracelet and it has a Swiss clasp and nothing on the bracelet. I’m taking that to be a fully Swiss bracelet.

It’s like more luck of the draw than a set rule from the sound of it.

[Grayblack]

I have a 2021 with French bracelet.