How many of you are into shoes... (Dress Shoes)?

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Ahem... Merry Christmas to me. :)

Congrats Wes! They look great

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Right, for UK makers, E is medium and for US makers, D is medium. I think this was part of the whole C&J for RL sizing fiasco.

I am an 11.5D Barrie, but also an 11.5E 325 (C&J) and 11.5E 64 (EG). All of these lasts are very generous. This is why I was initially shocked that the 11E in the 8695 fit me so well.

I have three JL lasts. All are a half size smaller than US, as are all my G&Gs. Lobb wide is EE, G&G wide is F.

I expect UK sizing to be half size smaller from all manufacturers. I haven’t found one yet that matched my US size.

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by dddrees

John Lobb sizing is larger than EG.

Yes, that’s my thought as well.

Originally Posted by SearChart

Congrats Wes! They look great

Thanks Bas!

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I have three JL lasts. All are a half size smaller than US, as are all my G&Gs. Lobb wide is EE, G&G wide is F.

I expect UK sizing to be half size smaller from all manufacturers. I haven’t found one yet that matched my US size.

I expected them to run larger than US shoes, but I didn’t expect them to run larger than EG and C&J. That’s my experience, anyway.

[hitman23]

Originally Posted by tifosi

Ohhhhhh I wish I never saw these.

so you can keep them boxed in the closet?

[tifosi]

Originally Posted by hitman23

so you can keep them boxed in the closet?

Haha! Styleforum member, huh???

Nah...I'd wear them.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Yes, that’s my thought as well.



Thanks Bas!



I expected them to run larger than US shoes, but I didn’t expect them to run larger than EG and C&J. That’s my experience, anyway.

Here is one example where Leffot recommends taking one full size down when determining your size for a pair of John Lobb shoes.

https://leffot.com/shop/index.php/sh...seum-calf.html

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Now that’s what I call a boot. Congrats!!


You do know once you go C&J you can never go back. You can always get some more C&J boots or something from EG or G&G, or St Crispins but you can never go back. But then again you could always get something from Viberg, or Vass, JL as well.

But hey, if you ever run out of ideas just let us know,

Originally Posted by dddrees

Oh, and before i forget Enzo Bonafe makes some pretty nice looking boots as well.

Thank you!

Had a meeting today so couldn't wear the Islay.

Going to wear them tomorrow.

Next I'm thinking EG Galways if the 82 works for my slightly wide feet. If not, then will see what else can be done. Want a cap toe boot that is a medium brown color.

Want one more pair of boots then I think I feel a loafer phase coming.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Syed117

Thank you!

Had a meeting today so couldn't wear the Islay.

Going to wear them tomorrow.

Next I'm thinking EG Galways if the 82 works for my slightly wide feet. If not, then will see what else can be done. Want a cap toe boot that is a medium brown color.

Want one more pair of boots then I think I feel a loafer phase coming.

Fabulous choice and hopefully the 82 Last works out for you. Not only is Doak a great brown color th fact that the Galway is so versatile and looks so great in a two tone color combination and a variety of different leathers.

[Syed117]

I've been getting stopped on the street all day. People asking where I got these amazing boots.

That actually hasn't happened, but they feel great.

I really like the feeling of a high lacing boot.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I've been getting stopped on the street all day. People asking where I got these amazing boots.

That actually hasn't happened, but they feel great.

I really like the feeling of a high lacing boot.

Hey buddy, nice boots! Watch ain’t bad either.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I've been getting stopped on the street all day. People asking where I got these amazing boots.

That actually hasn't happened, but they feel great.

I really like the feeling of a high lacing boot.

Fabulous Boots!!!

One of the things I like about C&J Boots is how tall they make their boots.

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Syed117

Next I'm thinking EG Galways

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I've been getting stopped on the street all day. People asking where I got these amazing boots.

That actually hasn't happened, but they feel great.

I really like the feeling of a high lacing boot. [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171220/e34a685039e1e12e5fbb04129ebdc3fe.jpg[/IM]

Looking good!

[SearChart]

I'm looking to add some new dailt dress shoes next year, in the €200-300 range. C&J is a little above my budget.

I was looking at van Bommel (Dutch shoemaker), does anyone have experience with these? Or would it just be better to wait a little and stretch out to C&J.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I'm looking to add some new dailt dress shoes next year, in the €200-300 range. C&J is a little above my budget.

I was looking at van Bommel (Dutch shoemaker), does anyone have experience with these? Or would it just be better to wait a little and stretch out to C&J.

Never heard of them, but that doesn’t mean anything. If I were you I would do some research and determine what your various options are both within that budget and a bit higher and what it might get you. There are other options in that price range and for a bit higher. The Parisian Gentlemen Review is a good start and Styleforum is another place you can look. I think it just all depends on how much time your willing to take in order to make a decision which might work best for you. Fit being paramount, but style and quality being important as well. Unfortunately at times it will just have to fit within a specific budget.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I'm looking to add some new dailt dress shoes next year, in the €200-300 range. C&J is a little above my budget.

I was looking at van Bommel (Dutch shoemaker), does anyone have experience with these? Or would it just be better to wait a little and stretch out to C&J.

In other words my advice to you would be to be more open minded and discover the many possible and not possible options out there so you are more aware before making any decisions.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Never heard of them, but that doesn’t mean anything. If I were you I would do some research and determine what your various options are both within that budget and a bit higher and what it might get you. There are other options in that price range and for a bit higher. The Parisian Gentlemen Review is a good start and Styleforum is another place you can look. I think it just all depends on how much time your willing to take in order to make a decision which might work best for you. Fit being paramount, but style and quality being important as well. Unfortunately at times it will just have to fit within a specific budget.

I'll do some more research.

Van Bommel is an old brand and everyone here knows it, if you ask just about any man here about a nice dress shoe they'll 99 times out of a 100 say van Bommel.

The Galway's will definitely have to wait though. Just too much for me now.

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Hey buddy, nice boots! Watch ain’t bad either.

Originally Posted by dddrees

Fabulous Boots!!!

One of the things I like about C&J Boots is how tall they make their boots.

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Looking good!

Thanks guys!

I also recently found out that Daniel Craig wore these in Skyfall?

That's pretty cool.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I'll do some more research.

Van Bommel is an old brand and everyone here knows it, if you ask just about any man here about a nice dress shoe they'll 99 times out of a 100 say van Bommel.

The Galway's will definitely have to wait though. Just too much for me now.

Nothing against Van Bommel, however in the US Allen Edmonds is consider a great shoemaker. However for those who know more about what is actually available they realize it’s an entry level GYW shoemaker. In the US Alden is probably considered a premium level brand but in reality it’s no better than a mid tier brand. Heck C&J is mid tier but they’re better than Alden. However that doesn’t mean there aren’t some real gems out there. When I started I had no knowledge of a shoemaker in Spain called Carmina. Unfortunately since they’ve gained in notariety and in price. Van Bommel may very well be another Carmina or better, and then again they may just be rather convenient given your location. Just saying, have a look if your so inclined and you may or may not make the same decision but you’ll have a better feeling I believe since you’ll have a bit more knowledge of what is actually out there. Besides you just might find something that suits you better.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Syed117

Thanks guys!

I also recently found out that Daniel Craig wore these in Skyfall?

That's pretty cool.

Frankly I always figured with or without the James Bond stuff C&J makes one heck of a fabulous boot.

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Frankly I always figured with or without the James Bond stuff C&J makes one heck of a fabulous boot.

Yeah, I mean it's pretty obscure in terms of a brand the average person knows.

I think that makes it cooler. Like they went out of their way to find great English shoes instead of just giving him some designer brand.

He wears Tom Ford suits but definitely low key on the shoes.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Nothing against Van Bommel, however in the US Allen Edmonds is consider a great shoemaker. However for those who know more about what is actually available they realize it’s an entry level GYW shoemaker. In the US Alden is probably considered a premium level brand but in reality it’s no better than a mid tier brand. Heck C&J is mid tier but they’re better than Alden. However that doesn’t mean there aren’t some real gems out there. When I started I had no knowledge of a shoemaker in Spain called Carmina. Unfortunately since they’ve gained in notariety and in price. Van Bommel may very well be another Carmina or better, and then again they may just be rather convenient given your location. Just saying, have a look if your so inclined and you may or may not make the same decision but you’ll have a better feeling I believe since you’ll have a bit more knowledge of what is actually out there. Besides you just might find something that suits you better.

I'll take a look at AE, I don't know if they sell them here though.

What about Church's? They have an outlet relatively nearby and I believe they are in the €300s which I find acceptable.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Syed117

Yeah, I mean it's pretty obscure in terms of a brand the average person knows.

I think that makes it cooler. Like they went out of their way to find great English shoes instead of just giving him some designer brand.

He wears Tom Ford suits but definitely low key on the shoes.

Maybe in the US, but then again in the US you have people who are more than willing to pay more for a pair of molded rubber and plastic tennis shoes than they would ever pay for a pair of good leather dress shoes.

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Maybe in the US, but then again in the US you have people who are more than willing to pay more for a pair of molded rubber and plastic tennis shoes than they would ever pay for a pair of good leather dress shoes.

Yeah. I know a lot of sneaker guys that pay hundreds for sweatshop made sneakers, but scoff at the idea of spending the same amount on leather shoes.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I'll take a look at AE, I don't know if they sell them here though.

What about Church's? They have an outlet relatively nearby and I believe they are in the €300s which I find acceptable.

Frankly I wouldn’t recommend Allen Edmonds especially since your overseas. Their QC is terrible but their customer support is extremely helpful. Unfortunately if you live outside the US you would want to have to risk getting something you might wish to return in order to get it fixed or replaced.

Churches are a great option as long as you don’t get a Prada influenced design. But I think they are in the C&J price range.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Syed117

Yeah. I know a lot of sneaker guys that pay hundreds for sweatshop made sneakers, but scoff at the idea of spending the same amount on leather shoes.

I think the majority of US men are shoe ignorant.

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by dddrees

I think the majority of US men are shoe ignorant.

I recently convinced a friend of mine who only wore cheap dress shoes to buy a pair of Allen edmonds during the last sale.

Yeah, not amazing, but it was a huge step up for him and I felt pretty good about myself.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by dddrees

Frankly I wouldn’t recommend Allen Edmonds especially since your overseas. Their QC is terrible but their customer support is extremely helpful. Unfortunately if you live outside the US you would want to have to risk getting something you might wish to return in order to get it fixed or replaced.

Churches are a great option as long as you don’t get a Prada influenced design. But I think they are in the C&J price range.

Upon closer inspection, yes, in the C&J price range.

They're not needed immediately, my current dailys are the red wing boots and I have a 5yo pair of Lloyd Oxford shoes that are still pretty decent. I can probably get another 6months out of them.

I need shoes to be of good quality. Van Bommel gets some negative reviews in the 10min of researching...

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I recently convinced a friend of mine who only wore cheap dress shoes to buy a pair of Allen edmonds during the last sale.

Yeah, not amazing, but it was a huge step up for him and I felt pretty good about myself.

When I was a kid my mom made it a point to take us to a shoe store which sold good quality shoes. Very few of those around now and the only two shoemakers in the US that make good quality GYW dress shoes are Allen Edmonds and Alden. Cole Hahn and many others now either make cheap corrected leather glued crap outside the US or are no longer in business.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Upon closer inspection, yes, in the C&J price range.

They're not needed immediately, my current dailys are the red wing boots and I have a 5yo pair of Lloyd Oxford shoes that are still pretty decent. I can probably get another 6months out of them.

I need shoes to be of good quality. Van Bommel gets some negative reviews in the 10min of researching...

All I know is I feel better when trying to making any decision if I do a bit of research myself. My likes and my situation just may not fit your needs and desires as good as it fits me. Th conclusions I draw may not be the same that you draw on your own.