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RussW · 4 October 2016, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

You answered what I said. More Pl required at a lower price per oz versus Au did not result in an exponential price differential!!!

Gold at 75% and platinum at 95% also contributes to a platinum watch costing more.

KarlS · 4 October 2016, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RussW

Gold at 75% and platinum at 95% also contributes to a platinum watch costing more.

Good point

Fiery · 4 October 2016, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Good point

It's only a good point if you look at less expensive Pt and gold watches, for example the Omega Seamaster 300 Master Co-axial. Let's say you've got a watch that has got 150 grams (5.3 oz) of pure gold in it. It should be a realistic amount for a gold Nautilus 5980. 5.3 oz gold is cca. USD $7000 right now. The same watch should have cca. 200 to 250 grams of pure Pt in it, considering the difference between gold and Pt density, and the alloy difference (75% vs 95%) too. 200 grams (7 oz) Pt is $7203 right now, and 250 grams (8.8 oz) is $9055. When it comes to a gold vs. Pt Nautilus, that $2K difference is negligible. It's almost nothing compared to the price bracket of those watches ($70K to $120K), and would certainly not justify the price difference.

thomaspp · 4 October 2016, 04:48 AM

disappointing to say the least..... The 5711P is certainly more appealing but the engraved dial is brutal and tasteless. The 5976 is just terrible.

doramas · 4 October 2016, 05:13 AM

Horrible

jeffyy · 4 October 2016, 05:49 AM

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hodinkeeThe coolest thing about the new anniversary edition Nautilus watches? They come in cork boxes inspired by the box that held the original Nautilus in 1976. Patek Philippe fans have been waiting a long time for this.

From hodinkee instagram. If the coolest thing about a new watch is the box it comes in, that's problematic

texex91 · 4 October 2016, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffyy

From hodinkee instagram. If the coolest thing about a new watch is the box it comes in, that's problematic

To say the least.

AK797 · 4 October 2016, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tinygears

All discussion re new 5711p is size.

Any concept of what this puppy will weigh?

Weighs surprisingly like the Platona so around 280 grams. Very heavy given its slim size.

texex91 · 4 October 2016, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tinygears

All discussion re new 5711p is size.

Any concept of what this puppy will weigh?

'Old version' was 245g

Tony-GB · 4 October 2016, 06:12 AM

Post #28 .

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...42#post6259542

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Samui · 4 October 2016, 06:24 AM

I think PP doesnt really care what the current generation likes since this generation will be gone soon. They are starting to cater to the next generation who loves big watches.

texex91 · 4 October 2016, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Samui

I think PP doesnt really care what the current generation likes since this generation will be gone soon. They are starting to cater to the next generation who loves big watches.

I appreciate big watches.

I don't like diamonds or dates embossed on dials.

Chasseur · 4 October 2016, 06:26 AM

You know what...

I'm happy!!!

texex91 · 4 October 2016, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chasseur

You know what...

I'm happy!!!

Was waiting on you

Passionata · 4 October 2016, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chasseur

You know what...

I'm happy!!!

It looks better than the tombstone dial for sure

iPhone/Tapatalk

Chasseur · 4 October 2016, 06:39 AM

Poor 5711p !!!
Without diamonds
Without engraved dial
And only less than 50 compare to 700

I am definitely very.......... Happy

dom007 · 4 October 2016, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chasseur

You know what...
I'm happy!!!

You have good reason for it!

goog53 · 4 October 2016, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chasseur

You know what...

I'm happy!!!

Where the heck have you been? Great to see you posting John! That 5711P of yours is a beauty and truly LIMITED

JapRs · 4 October 2016, 06:48 AM

New platinum 5711 is not that bad although the engraved dial and the size kill the watch imho

Good thing is that my pocket won't suffer

yjfang · 4 October 2016, 07:03 AM

My 2 cents:

Likes - beautiful blue dial, original (more angular like on the 5980) pushers vs. the 5990.

Questionable - diamond indices are not too bad although polished gold would have been fine. Subtle bling. Watch case at 44MM on the larger side but might feel less thick, at a time when industry seems to be settling in around 38-42MM.

Dislikes - Dial ruined with the anniversary lettering. Should have just kept on the back case but maybe the blown up pics exaggerate the prominence of the lettering. Perhaps more subtle in real life.

I am really appreciating my 5980/1A after seeing the Anniversary release.

RW16610 · 4 October 2016, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by yjfang

Dislikes - Dial ruined with the anniversary lettering. Should have just kept on the back case but maybe the blown up pics exaggerate the prominence of the lettering. Perhaps more subtle in real life.

Agreed. Hopefully it isn't as noticable in person when compared to those macro shots. Either way, I also feel as if that should have been on the back somewhere if they felt the need to include it.

texex91 · 4 October 2016, 07:19 AM

I wonder if the 44mm is a sign of things to come from Patek.

More Naut's in a 44mm case size to compete in the larger watch marketplace (primarily AP)?

Hmmmm, Baselworld 2017 may hold the answers.

Samui · 4 October 2016, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Passionata

It looks better than the tombstone dial for sure

iPhone/Tapatalk

Tombstone dial

Good one

kneedeep · 4 October 2016, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chasseur

Poor 5711p !!!
Without diamonds
Without engraved dial
And only less than 50 compare to 700

I am definitely very.......... Happy

You have every reason to be beyond ecstatic with your beautiful example of a truly LE Pt 5711 especially after seeing what they just released. Not that you weren't happy before

myc ritz · 4 October 2016, 08:32 AM

Wow...do not like the direction they are heading. If that dial stamp was on on the case back or clasp I would question it. On the dial???!!! "Love the way the light hits the 40th anniversary stamp". Makes any Omega/Bond offering look subdued. Can't wait for the 47mm PVD Aquanaut : (

singe89 · 4 October 2016, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

I wonder if the 44mm is a sign of things to come from Patek.

More Naut's in a 44mm case size to compete in the larger watch marketplace (primarily AP)?

Hmmmm, Baselworld 2017 may hold the answers.

That I would be interested in. The main reason I haven't purchased a Patek is because they look too small on my wrist. Maybe Patek finally realized that larger sport watches will sell and isn't a fad. A nice 42-44mm 5990 with blue dial would be awesome. I would even take a 5164 in 42-44mm. Need a Patek in the watch box.

texex91 · 4 October 2016, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by singe89

That I would be interested in. The main reason I haven't purchased a Patek is because they look too small on my wrist. Maybe Patek finally realized that larger sport watches will sell and isn't a fad. A nice 42-44mm 5990 with blue dial would be awesome. I would even take a 5164 in 42-44mm. Need a Patek in the watch box.

Would have to agree with a nice sized 5990 I'd be a buyer.

No diamonds or date etching

enjoythemusic · 4 October 2016, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Spent more time designing the box than the watch...

Looks that way, sadly.

Does it have a new movement that 'fills' the case and has new / innovative features? Five year warranty just in case date wheel sticks?

Russell996 · 4 October 2016, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by myc ritz

"Love the way the light hits the 40th anniversary stamp".

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texex91 · 4 October 2016, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

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Nice angle to hide it--but it's there and ugly (IMHO of course)

4 October 2016, 04:48 AM	#244
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,137	disappointing to say the least..... The 5711P is certainly more appealing but the engraved dial is brutal and tasteless. The 5976 is just terrible. __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

4 October 2016, 06:12 AM	#250
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	Post #28 . http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...42#post6259542 . __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

4 October 2016, 05:13 AM	#245
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Horrible

4 October 2016, 06:24 AM	#251
Samui Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Tokyo Posts: 611	I think PP doesnt really care what the current generation likes since this generation will be gone soon. They are starting to cater to the next generation who loves big watches.

4 October 2016, 06:26 AM	#253
Chasseur "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: John Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,077	You know what... I'm happy!!!

4 October 2016, 06:39 AM	#256
Chasseur "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: John Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,077	Poor 5711p !!! Without diamonds Without engraved dial And only less than 50 compare to 700 I am definitely very.......... Happy

4 October 2016, 06:48 AM	#259
JapRs "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Earth Watch: RolexPatek Posts: 664	New platinum 5711 is not that bad although the engraved dial and the size kill the watch imho Good thing is that my pocket won't suffer

4 October 2016, 07:03 AM	#260
yjfang "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: JF Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 Posts: 1,426	My 2 cents: Likes - beautiful blue dial, original (more angular like on the 5980) pushers vs. the 5990. Questionable - diamond indices are not too bad although polished gold would have been fine. Subtle bling. Watch case at 44MM on the larger side but might feel less thick, at a time when industry seems to be settling in around 38-42MM. Dislikes - Dial ruined with the anniversary lettering. Should have just kept on the back case but maybe the blown up pics exaggerate the prominence of the lettering. Perhaps more subtle in real life. I am really appreciating my 5980/1A after seeing the Anniversary release.

4 October 2016, 07:19 AM	#262
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	I wonder if the 44mm is a sign of things to come from Patek. More Naut's in a 44mm case size to compete in the larger watch marketplace (primarily AP)? Hmmmm, Baselworld 2017 may hold the answers.

4 October 2016, 08:32 AM	#265
myc ritz 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: USA Watch: AP, Speedy, Rolex Posts: 976	Wow...do not like the direction they are heading. If that dial stamp was on on the case back or clasp I would question it. On the dial???!!! "Love the way the light hits the 40th anniversary stamp". Makes any Omega/Bond offering look subdued. Can't wait for the 47mm PVD Aquanaut : (

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