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[huncho]

Originally Posted by Krash

OMFG!

I was about to rip the TV off the wall and throw it into the pool.

Once again, Nick leaves easy points on the field and off the board.

For no reason at all, he went for a 2 pt conversion three times, and they didn’t convert any of them.

That’s 3 pts right there Nick subtracted from the scoreboard.

Then, on 2 occasions, they went for it on 4th down twice instead of kicking an easy field goal. They didn’t convert either.

That’s another 6 pts.

Grand total: 9pts.

We almost lost that game because of idiotic decisions. The Jags should never have been that close.

Final score: 28 to 23. Should have been 37 to 23.

But on the positive side…
Hurts was 18 for 24, 2 TDs, 132 QB Rating
Barkley rushed for 157 yards on 27 carries


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yeah idk why he's going for it on 4th down when you're up 10-0, especially against a team that can't get anything working

he's the extreme side of analytics that i don't like

[Yoda_Eating_Pizza]

For my own sanity, I took a break from any football coverage yesterday. Glad I did. Hearing about the coaching shakeup in the wake of the Raiders game, the game itself must have been a circus.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Easy E

This seems like as good of thread to drop this question set in. My son turns 13 in two weeks. One of the things he has asked for is a trip to Lambeau Field to see a Packers game. I am not historically a Packers fan, but....we are going. Tickets bought, planes, car, hotel, all booked. We fly in late Saturday and out early Monday (vs Lions). We are staying about a block from the stadium.

Looking for restaurant recommendations and/or anything to see or do in the GB area pre-game. Any suggestions?

Just got back home. We got soaked, the Packers got stomped. Oh well, it was still a great experience.

Lambeau is a fabulous place for football.

[Boothroyd]

I am glad my college team and NFL team are both on byes next weekend. I will take a midseason break from following sports also.

[omar10213245]

barring any unforeseen major injuries, I simply can't picture anyone other than Kansas City or Baltimore being Superbowl champs when all is said and done.

[TheVision]

Last nights game was top notch!! But again, Mahomes/Kelce majic is on same level as the mighty Brady/Kronk ....

I love my niners but they will choke hard in playoffs (same as Cowboys..if they even reach it..lol). Purdy is good but he's got years to mature. And niners seem to be cursed with major injuries, year after year.

I'm happy with any team winning this year...as long as its not KC!! It's getting boring to be honest (same when Pats were going to SB year after year).

[Krash]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

barring any unforeseen major injuries, I simply can't picture anyone other than Kansas City or Baltimore being Superbowl champs when all is said and done.

I’m not so sure. KC barely beat a Tampa Bay team that was without its two best WRs: Godwin and Evans. Baltimore seems capable of losing to a bad team on any given Sunday. They lost to the Raiders and Browns.

I think Buffalo has a god chance of being the AFC team.

I think the Lions or Eagles will be the NFC team.


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[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Krash

I’m not so sure. KC barely beat a Tampa Bay team that was without its two best WRs: Godwin and Evans. Baltimore seems capable of losing to a bad team on any given Sunday. They lost to the Raiders and Browns.

I think Buffalo has a god chance of being the AFC team.

I think the Lions or Eagles will be the NFC team.


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I'm with you on the Lions, but Sirianni is doing his best to sabotage the Eagles season. He makes more boneheaded decisions than Eberflus.

The AFC is hard to read right now. You're right about the Ravens and KC is living off their defense. I don't see that getting them into a championship with Mohomes and the offense playing subpar football. Nobody stands out as a consistently great team the way the Lions do. The whole conference is a crap shoot.

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by Krash

I’m not so sure. KC barely beat a Tampa Bay team that was without its two best WRs: Godwin and Evans. Baltimore seems capable of losing to a bad team on any given Sunday. They lost to the Raiders and Browns.

I think Buffalo has a god chance of being the AFC team.

I think the Lions or Eagles will be the NFC team.


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believe me, i'd love to be wrong, i hope I AM wrong (Steeler fan). with KC, they've figured out how to beat a team ANY way they need to do it, they're not worried about blowing teams out of the water anymore. they've got the defense, and of course, mahomes, and they really only give their opponents a small window of opportunity in each game to possibly beat them...if their opponent doesn't capitalize, then they lose, the Chiefs almost NEVER seem to falter when the stakes are at their highest. And yes, Baltimore certainly can lose to pretty much anybody, but now that they have Henry in the backfield, they definitely seem (to me, at least) to be even MORE formidable than they've been these last couple of years.

Personally, I don't expect much out of my Steelers, I just want to see them win a freaking playoff game for the first time since 2016. Would be cool to see Detroit win it all.

[GB-man]

It’s early still but man Detroit is cooking with gasoline. Today they are the clear favorite in my opinion but that’s likely to change with attrition etc

KC Ravens Bills Commanders all looking like contenders. I think the Steelers could surprise people and keep stacking wins.

Ravens Lions would be my guess if I had to.

Bills Lions would be absolutely tragic for one city!

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by GB-man

It’s early still but man Detroit is cooking with gasoline. Today they are the clear favorite in my opinion but that’s likely to change with attrition etc

KC Ravens Bills Commanders all looking like contenders. I think the Steelers could surprise people and keep stacking wins.

Ravens Lions would be my guess if I had to.

Bills Lions would be absolutely tragic for one city!

If the Lions lost Dan Cambell would have to move again, this time out of state.

[huncho]

would love to see the lions or ravens win but the lions are just so cursed that it feels almost impossible

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by huncho

would love to see the lions or ravens win but the lions are just so cursed that it feels almost impossible

I was in Detroit a few weeks ago and the city is on fire with Lions fever. It's a pretty amazing turnaround over the attitudes just a few years ago.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by huncho

would love to see the lions or ravens win but the lions are just so cursed that it feels almost impossible

As a die hard Eagles fan, I like my chances against the Lions in the NFC Championship game. I think the Eagles could outscore them in a shootout. Plus, the Eagles offense controls the clock. They’re pretty good at keeping the other team’s offense off the field. They almost always dominate time of possession, and not just by a little, but by a lot.

As long as Nick isn’t hyper-aggressive, and sticks to extra points instead of going for 2 all game, we should be okay. Plus, he needs to accept field goals as a final outcome for some of the drives. Going for it on 4th and 8 on the 30 yard line is ridiculous. We only need to do that if the clock is running out and the game is on the line.

Eagles are playing the Ravens in 3 or 4 weeks. That’s going to be a good test for both teams.


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[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Krash

As a die hard Eagles fan, I like my chances against the Lions in the NFC Championship game. I think the Eagles could outscore them in a shootout. Plus, the Eagles offense controls the clock. They’re pretty good at keeping the other team’s offense off the field. They almost always dominate time of possession, and not just by a little, but by a lot.

As long as Nick isn’t hyper-aggressive, and sticks to extra points instead of going for 2 all game, we should be okay.

Eagles are playing the Ravens in 3 or 4 weeks. That’s going to be a good test for both teams.


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As you are an Eagles fan I would expect you to be optimistic, but the Lions are manhandling good teams, whereas the Eagles are losing to them. The last four Eagles wins were the Browns, Giants, Bengals, and Jaguires who have a combined record of 10-26. They lost to the Falcons and the Bucs, and tried to lose to the Jags. The Eagles have potential, but the Lions are kenetic. The Eagles would get crushed by the Lions if they played today.

The Eagles have an easy schedule for the rest of the season, only seeing good teams in the two Washington games and Baltimore, so I expect them to be in the playoffs (assuming Sirianni doesn't engineer another late season collapse). But putting them in the NFC championship game based on their performance so far is wishful thinking.

[Maleg]

The Bears are aweful. They made the Patriots look good. What does it take to fire the OC in Chicago? I think I trew out my back hurling curses at the TV during the game.

[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by Maleg

The Bears are aweful. They made the Patriots look good. What does it take to fire the OC in Chicago? I think I trew out my back hurling curses at the TV during the game.

Haven't been following the NFL too closely since the first couple weeks, but I saw a stat line on Caleb Williams of 50% completion and 120 years total for the Bears. Does he show any promise whatsoever or is it just too soon to make an informed opinion? The way he and his team were pumping him up PRIOR to the season made him sound like a sure thing.

As an aside, I never understood hyping yourself up before ever accomplishing anything of significance - it only sets up for elevated expectations and criticism.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

Haven't been following the NFL too closely since the first couple weeks, but I saw a stat line on Caleb Williams of 50% completion and 120 years total for the Bears. Does he show any promise whatsoever or is it just too soon to make an informed opinion? The way he and his team were pumping him up PRIOR to the season made him sound like a sure thing.

As an aside, I never understood hyping yourself up before ever accomplishing anything of significance - it only sets up for elevated expectations and criticism.

The coaching is aweful and the GM is negligent. The Bears should have cleaned house after the first two terrible coaching years under Eberflus. But, the McCaskeys don't want to pay out his contract, so the Bears fans get to live with historically horrible coaching with Eberflus and Waldron.

Caleb Williams has a high ceiling, but the coaching staff was expecting third year performance out of a rookie. Rather than simplifying the play calling, OC Waldron put the weight of a complex scheme on the rookie, and expects the rookie to analyze defenses real time and adjust on the fly. The scheme also ignores the fact that the O-line is in its third year of aweful play (the GM's fault) and expects a QB to be able to survive plays that take much longer to evolve than the incompetent O-line can hold.

If the coaches were paying attention, the plays would be runs and quick check downs, getting the ball out of the rookie's hands in less than two seconds. Instead, he's allowed to improvise, looking for Mahomes like miracles, gets sacked nine times a game, and has lost whatever confidence he had. As the Bears have demonstrated repeatedly in the six decades or so I have been a fan, they are much better at destroying QB talent than developing it.

The Bears will likely lose the rest of their games, so they'll have a good draft position. But, they'll have a bad GM and a new coaching staff, so they won't fix what's broken. And, Caleb Williams will be seen as a bust until he moves to a team that can develop his talent.

[Krash]

3 out of the last 4 games, Eagles were able to rest all their starters for the entire 4th QTR because they were so far ahead on the scoreboard.

That’s almost the equivalent of resting them for an entire game. It doesn’t sound like a big deal, but this is the time of year when injuries begin to pile up. It significantly reduces the risk of injury for all the key players and keeps them fresh for the playoff run.


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[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by Maleg

The coaching is aweful and the GM is negligent. The Bears should have cleaned house after the first two terrible coaching years under Eberflus. But, the McCaskeys don't want to pay out his contract, so the Bears fans get to live with historically horrible coaching with Eberflus and Waldron.

Caleb Williams has a high ceiling, but the coaching staff was expecting third year performance out of a rookie. Rather than simplifying the play calling, OC Waldron put the weight of a complex scheme on the rookie, and expects the rookie to analyze defenses real time and adjust on the fly. The scheme also ignores the fact that the O-line is in its third year of aweful play (the GM's fault) and expects a QB to be able to survive plays that take much longer to evolve than the incompetent O-line can hold.

If the coaches were paying attention, the plays would be runs and quick check downs, getting the ball out of the rookie's hands in less than two seconds. Instead, he's allowed to improvise, looking for Mahomes like miracles, gets sacked nine times a game, and has lost whatever confidence he had. As the Bears have demonstrated repeatedly in the six decades or so I have been a fan, they are much better at destroying QB talent than developing it.

The Bears will likely lose the rest of their games, so they'll have a good draft position. But, they'll have a bad GM and a new coaching staff, so they won't fix what's broken. And, Caleb Williams will be seen as a bust until he moves to a team that can develop his talent.

WOW... that's some analysis! Sorry you have to endure being a Bears fan. If it's any consolation, I always throught the '85 Bears had the best defense in the history of the game.

[TNT009]

What a sloppy game!

[twitch54]

Originally Posted by Krash

3 out of the last 4 games, Eagles were able to rest all their starters for the entire 4th QTR because they were so far ahead on the scoreboard.

That’s almost the equivalent of resting them for an entire game. It doesn’t sound like a big deal, but this is the time of year when injuries begin to pile up. It significantly reduces the risk of injury for all the key players and keeps them fresh for the playoff run.


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Agreed, add the fact that they have played the equivalent of Div 2 College teams(Cowgirls are dreadful) has also helped.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

WOW... that's some analysis! Sorry you have to endure being a Bears fan. If it's any consolation, I always throught the '85 Bears had the best defense in the history of the game.

Agree. The '85 Bears were special. They were the last team influenced by George Halas. He passed in 1983, but the Bears organization was still populated by football people that he influenced (despite Mike McCaskey taking over in '83).

The McCaskey's are not football people, run the organization with nepobabies, and are too cheap to staff the organization with high quality talent. They are the primary reason the Bears have struggled to be competitive the last thirty years. They won't pay for the great coaches or scouts that make all the difference in maintaining a winning culture. They're selling tickets without winning, and they're good with that.

[GB-man]

Well the bears finally got rid of the OC. Seems like they need a head coach too unless I’m blind.

Bills chiefs this Sunday in orchard park. Not sure who is left to play WR for us with Coleman out, cooper possibly out, Kincaid likely out. Wish we had the bodies for this one.

[mtrunner]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Well the bears finally got rid of the OC. Seems like they need a head coach too unless I’m blind.

Bills chiefs this Sunday in orchard park. Not sure who is left to play WR for us with Coleman out, cooper possibly out, Kincaid likely out. Wish we had the bodies for this one.

Agreed, no idea why the Bears would only fire the OC. Eberflus needs to be fired. Bills/Chiefs game should be epic!

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Well the bears finally got rid of the OC. Seems like they need a head coach too unless I’m blind.

Bills chiefs this Sunday in orchard park. Not sure who is left to play WR for us with Coleman out, cooper possibly out, Kincaid likely out. Wish we had the bodies for this one.

Eberflus has lost the locker room. You can see it in the level of effort on both sides of the ball. But the Bears will ride him to the number two pick in the draft.

The Bills have injuries, but Mahomes has struggled too. If the Bills can keep KC from finishing late they have a good chance of winning.

[Maleg]

Rogers says he wants to play another year. Given his current track record, if he stays put we can expect another losing season for the Jets.

Perhaps the Jets can draft a Jordon Love to push Rogers again, but Rogers body probably doesn't have an MVP year left in it. Maybe not even an MVP game.

[Krash]

Eagles 26
Commanders 18

That’s a huge win. Eagles are quietly 8-2 and under the radar.

Going into the game, the Commanders were ranked 28th against the rush. Eagles are 2nd in the league in rushing.

So nobody should be surprised the Eagles ran through them and carved them up. Barkley: 146 yards. Gainwell: 43 yards. Hurts: 39 yards.


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[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Krash

Eagles 26
Commanders 18

That’s a huge win. Eagles are quietly 8-2 and under the radar.

Going into the game, the Commanders were ranked 28th against the rush. Eagles are 2nd in the league in rushing.

So nobody should be surprised the Eagles ran through them and carved them up. Barkley: 146 yards. Gainwell: 43 yards. Hurts: 39 yards.


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It was a good win. Sirianni didn't do anything crazy, which is half the battle with the Eagles. If he can reign in his immatutre impulses for the rest of the season the Eagles can go far.

[MickCollins1916]

This guy put himself squarely into MVP contention yesterday (if he wasn’t there already, which he should have been). Big dub and always entertaining when my Bills play KC.

Only week 11, but solid performance from a banged-up team.