5520p

[V25V]

Anyone read the article in the recent PP magazine about the 5520P? I am not fan of it from an aesthetic standpoint at all but wow, what an amazing piece of mechanical engineering!

Article I found on it from monochrome as well, so cool.

https://monochrome-watches.com/patek...-review-price/

[locutus49]

I love the watch but since even the 5524 is too big for my puny wrist, I can forget about this one, not to mention the price.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by locutus49

I love the watch but since even the 5524 is too big for my puny wrist, I can forget about this one, not to mention the price.

Dude. You do tally need an alarm for 200k!

[Josh1000]

I liked the watch at launch...love the function but less enthusiastic about the extra pushers.....I saw it in the metal and was kinda meh

[V25V]

Originally Posted by Josh1000

I liked the watch at launch...love the function but less enthusiastic about the extra pushers.....I saw it in the metal and was kinda meh

Yeah, I think it would be very hard to wear and do not like the pilot to begin with. But the mechanicals are really impressive. Zero chance I could spend 200K on a watch but still quite a piece of mechanical kit.

[Reign]

Does it make a sound or only vibrations? If the former, is there a video somewhere?


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[V25V]

Originally Posted by Reign

Does it make a sound or only vibrations? If the former, is there a video somewhere?


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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2TnsAStL8o

Sound, has a chime you can see in the caseback display.

[Mr Naultilus]

I kinda like it, and it's growing on me

I might tentatively ask the question

[Josh1000]

Originally Posted by V25V

Yeah, I think it would be very hard to wear and do not like the pilot to begin with. But the mechanicals are really impressive. Zero chance I could spend 200K on a watch but still quite a piece of mechanical kit.

A 5531G with alarm could be my exit watch

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Josh1000

A 5531G with alarm could be my exit watch

Oooooh, that sounds nice.

[Bearxj86]

I guess a JLC Memovox could be an affordable (relatively) option to this :)

[golfski]

At that price point, I would not buy this and honestly don't understand an alarm on a mechanical watch, especially if it can't even be precise down to the minute!

At anything more than the 5524, I'm buying the 5524 instead of this. At this price point, I am buying an RM for sure.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by golfski

At that price point, I would not buy this and honestly don't understand an alarm on a mechanical watch, especially if it can't even be precise down to the minute!

At anything more than the 5524, I'm buying the 5524 instead of this. At this price point, I am buying an RM for sure.

To each their own and I do not personally like the aesthetics of this particular watch, just appreciate the mechanics. That said, I was in Austin last weekend for the F1 race and saw some guy wearing a RM Bonbon (assume it was real) and I find all of those RM's completely unattractive. Plenty of options at this sort of price point but I do not think most prospective buyers for this are looking at RM as well.

[locutus49]

Vulcan makes a good alarm watch. Not sure what the cost is but I'm guessing less than 200K.

Originally Posted by bearxj86

I guess a JLC Memovox could be an affordable (relatively) option to this :)

[GreenLantern]

I'm a fan. I intend to pursue submitting my application for one of these next year.

[golfski]

Originally Posted by V25V

To each their own and I do not personally like the aesthetics of this particular watch, just appreciate the mechanics. That said, I was in Austin last weekend for the F1 race and saw some guy wearing a RM Bonbon (assume it was real) and I find all of those RM's completely unattractive. Plenty of options at this sort of price point but I do not think most prospective buyers for this are looking at RM as well.

For sure , what one is willing to spend on anything is always subjective to that person. For my lifestyle, I'd love an RM for its ruggedness and its overall sporty ascetics, especially as a stealthy all black watch or one with a ton of color. I'd love a McLaren orange one or an all white one like Bubba Watson.

[KWSub]

I tried one on and got a “lesson” at the Geneva Boutique a few weeks ago. It’s an impressive timepiece. I’m admittedly biased since I love my 5524g, although the extra pusher does change the aesthetic.

[Josh1000]

Originally Posted by golfski

At that price point, I would not buy this and honestly don't understand an alarm on a mechanical watch, especially if it can't even be precise down to the minute!

At anything more than the 5524, I'm buying the 5524 instead of this. At this price point, I am buying an RM for sure.

An alarm on a mechanical watch is no different to a chrono...use your stop watch function in a phone...we buy these type of watches for the horological or engineering accomplishments...I also hardly find a RM a "stealth" watch....but as collectors we respect each others choices

[PPcollector]

This is one of the best new references Patek has produced in modern times. The alarm function although has been made in other more complicated references, has not been utilized before in a reference by itself. I have the opportunity to own this particular watch and it is simply stunning!
All I know is there are not that many produced...

[golfski]

Originally Posted by Josh1000

An alarm on a mechanical watch is no different to a chrono...use your stop watch function in a phone...we buy these type of watches for the horological or engineering accomplishments...I also hardly find a RM a "stealth" watch....but as collectors we respect each others choices

Totally get your point, I own a lot of very expensive watches that are inferior to an iPhone at performing those tasks. However, I think the chrono and time keeping ability of a mechanical watch is much closer in ability to a digital (cheaper) competitor than the 15-minute increment alarm on the 5520p is to a true alarm clock. And they are essentially pricing the alarm complication as a $100,000 option to the 5524, and that is even assuming it costs 50k to upgrade from WG to Platinum. I'd really be interested in the decision of why it was 15 minute increments or why they couldn't achieve taking it down to the minute. I am not an alarm expert, or a fan if you can't tell :), so is this the standard on other alarms?

[Josh1000]

Originally Posted by golfski

Totally get your point, I own a lot of very expensive watches that are inferior to an iPhone at performing those tasks. However, I think the chrono and time keeping ability of a mechanical watch is much closer in ability to a digital (cheaper) competitor than the 15-minute increment alarm on the 5520p is to a true alarm clock. And they are essentially pricing the alarm complication as a $100,000 option to the 5524, and that is even assuming it costs 50k to upgrade from WG to Platinum. I'd really be interested in the decision of why it was 15 minute increments or why they couldn't achieve taking it down to the minute. I am not an alarm expert, or a fan if you can't tell :), so is this the standard on other alarms?

Once you have gone past the "alarm function" and start viewing this function as a "learner minute repeater" it may make more sense....just like u have never used a chrono...whether to time my eggs boiling or lap around the garden...I am a frequent traveller that is anal enough to also take a digital clock with me apart from.my phone....I fret about waking up.late and thus phone and wake up call are a prerequisite....a GMT with an alarm is just perfect...I also tend to wake on the half hours and yet to set my alarm for 5:07!!!! So sure u can get a JLC to do that but then why buy a PP WT if u can get a JLC one cheaper???? I think a MR is also.pretty useless....but I would.like one. I think a WT is pretty unreliable (legibility and daylight saving) so I love the function, why pay a huge premium for a PC when an AC will do the job with limited additional.incinvenience - because the engineering required is fascinating.....so I guess this is natural.progression......yes it does look like a crab....yes I was originally interested but then we all get carried Way with baselworld euphoria....so it's a function I would.like but perhaps not in that model.....and I did like the look of your old 5170G

[77T]

When reviewers must spend more time on the innards, and excusing the 4 satellite antennae on the case, you know it’s a model that isn’t elegant in the way PP has gained its fame.

If the bulk of the talk is mixed with reasons why it is hard to love, then it ought to be a rarely seen PP some 40 years from now. Maybe a safe queen for future appreciation?



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[golfski]

Originally Posted by Josh1000

Once you have gone past the "alarm function" and start viewing this function as a "learner minute repeater" it may make more sense....just like u have never used a chrono...whether to time my eggs boiling or lap around the garden...I am a frequent traveller that is anal enough to also take a digital clock with me apart from.my phone....I fret about waking up.late and thus phone and wake up call are a prerequisite....a GMT with an alarm is just perfect...I also tend to wake on the half hours and yet to set my alarm for 5:07!!!! So sure u can get a JLC to do that but then why buy a PP WT if u can get a JLC one cheaper???? I think a MR is also.pretty useless....but I would.like one. I think a WT is pretty unreliable (legibility and daylight saving) so I love the function, why pay a huge premium for a PC when an AC will do the job with limited additional.incinvenience - because the engineering required is fascinating.....so I guess this is natural.progression......yes it does look like a crab....yes I was originally interested but then we all get carried Way with baselworld euphoria....so it's a function I would.like but perhaps not in that model.....and I did like the look of your old 5170G

You may have me confused with someone else, I never had a 5170G, but sure would love one :).

But yeah, I do agree. Funny thing to me, I like the aesthetics of the watch, the ears don’t bother me a bit, I just don’t think an alarm function + platinum is worth $150,000 - but I do think my 5524 is worth $50k, so its a matter of perspective of what $150,000 means to someone and if thats worth what they get for it. I do think it will be a unique piece that will stay rare and hold its value if thats why someone might buy this. But as I said, if I was spending 200k on a watch to keep for myself and use, I’m going RM (with GMT, date) because I’m prioritizing ascetics and functionality as the most important functions to me.

It’s kind of like a Tesla Model S/X. You can buy the smallest battery and most limited upgrades or the top of the line one. But from the outside and inside it looks exactly the same but the high-end costs 2 to 3X. But if you look at the incremental improvements, they are not worth the exponentially rising costs. 0-60 in 5.9sec is just as good as 3.1sec for what I use it for! But, if I was going to spend the amount of money that one would have to on a top of the line model S, I’d get a McLaren or something that is the lower end of the next tier. The 5524G and the 5520P are the Model S 60 and the Model X P100D Fully loaded, respectively. Of course, if money was no object, I’d get the 5520P to wear in my Model X P100D, a 5524G when I was slumming it in my X60 and a RM McLaren to wear in my McLaren

[jcoltrane]

This watch continues to allude me, they're not making many and I suspect Patek won't sell it for long. It's a powerhouse packed into an irreverent case, the only thing not to love is the price.

[Josh1000]

Different strokes for different folks....I would take this over the 5270P only because I dont care much for chrono or manual wind complications.....

[V25V]

Originally Posted by 77T

When reviewers must spend more time on the innards, and excusing the 4 satellite antennae on the case, you know it’s a model that isn’t elegant in the way PP has gained its fame.

If the bulk of the talk is mixed with reasons why it is hard to love, then it ought to be a rarely seen PP some 40 years from now. Maybe a safe queen for future appreciation?



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Completely agree. I do not find it very attractive at all, think they could have done better with the pushers? Or not.

[Josh1000]

Having ordered the watch at baselworld the euphoria of buying anything that "tick tocks" seems to have passed. I sold the 5524G as I had an issue with the pushers and then I go order a watch with double the amount!!! I am delighted that from a UK perspective the allocation chances are close to zero!!! I can now focus on something a bit more achievable for a 2020 delivery....

[martinr]

Originally Posted by Josh1000

Having ordered the watch at baselworld the euphoria of buying anything that "tick tocks" seems to have passed. I sold the 5524G as I had an issue with the pushers and then I go order a watch with double the amount!!! I am delighted that from a UK perspective the allocation chances are close to zero!!! I can now focus on something a bit more achievable for a 2020 delivery....

I told my daughter a month ago that when she thinks she’s got to have a material possession wait a month or two before buying it. Because then she won’t want it anymore and will have saved a bunch of money.

[Josh1000]

Originally Posted by martinr

I told my daughter a month ago that when she thinks she’s got to have a material possession wait a month or two before buying it. Because then she won’t want it anymore and will have saved a bunch of money.

Sound advice....always sleep on it....