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Old 12 March 2022, 09:28 AM   #1
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P.900 Movement

Does this movement have a stop seconds feature?
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Old 12 March 2022, 01:04 PM   #2
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The original ValFleurier movement was born with hacking seconds but the latest Panerai version doesn't have the feature anymore from what I heard.

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Old 12 March 2022, 05:28 PM   #3
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P.900 Movement

P.900 does have hacking second hand. I have a 2021 model Due.


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Old 12 March 2022, 06:53 PM   #4
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Does this movement have a stop seconds feature?
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The P.900 does have hacking. My PAM683 from 2021-11 had it.
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Old 12 March 2022, 07:20 PM   #5
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No hacking here (1068 Blue Notte):

https://youtu.be/rkEnNRAhTxA?t=150


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Old 12 March 2022, 08:40 PM   #6
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No hacking here (1068 Blue Notte):

https://youtu.be/rkEnNRAhTxA?t=150


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Damn, this is the first P.900 I see without hacking.

I know that some of their other "workhorses" like P.3000 and P.5000 never had hacking, but it now seems like they're removing it from all the movements now.

I wonder when they started removing it because I tried out their new Quaranta-series at my local AD and they have hacking

Edit: no hacking here at 1:20 either:
https://youtu.be/VRTZrWhvsAo

They're probably phasing out the old P.900 with hacking then
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Old 12 March 2022, 11:45 PM   #7
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Hacking

I just got the 1223 submersible and it has no hacking feature.
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Old 1 April 2022, 07:26 PM   #8
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Just in, the new P.900 without hacking seconds and completely undecorated.





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Old 1 April 2022, 09:53 PM   #9
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I guess after the brooklyn bridge debacle Panerai would steer clear of undecorated movements. The question is are other brands doing the same thing at this price point?
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Old 1 April 2022, 11:11 PM   #10
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come on panerai. even replicas decorate their movements nowadays!
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Old 2 April 2022, 12:14 AM   #11
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Hi Jose,

Love your content. Thinking about getting a P.5000 based watch. 2021 model. Thoughts on the movement? Price on watch is very good.

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No hacking here (1068 Blue Notte):

https://youtu.be/rkEnNRAhTxA?t=150


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Old 2 April 2022, 04:48 AM   #12
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It never ends, WFT is Panerai doing
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Old 2 April 2022, 05:37 AM   #13
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Panerai truly is a joke. They are ripping you off.

The article Perez has written says enough.
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Old 2 April 2022, 05:38 AM   #14
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That can’t be real. Even the engraving is horrendous.
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Old 1 May 2022, 10:30 PM   #15
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New PAM01226 Submersible "QuarantaQuattro" 44 mm sold in Singapore: No hacking.

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Old 8 May 2022, 02:57 AM   #16
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My favorite watch is a PAM 111 that I purchased 12 years ago. Still looks fantastic. No hacking seconds. I never missed it. I also have a Rolex GMT Batman. Have you seen that movement? Yikes! Zero decoration.
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Old 8 May 2022, 03:27 AM   #17
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This is the whole problem. No one knows what's what because Panerai are not been transparent.
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Old 8 May 2022, 06:11 AM   #18
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This is the whole problem. No one knows what's what because Panerai are not been transparent.
I was interested in the 914 & 915 until they switched to the steel back. Now I know why, it's to hide the ugly undecorated movement!
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Old 22 May 2022, 04:18 PM   #19
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That is why i wouldnt buy new. Total disconnect between value and price.

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Old 23 May 2022, 12:08 AM   #20
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Maybe someone at Panerai will read these threads and make a course correction.
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Old 23 May 2022, 01:27 AM   #21
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New PAM01226 Submersible "QuarantaQuattro" 44 mm sold in Singapore: No hacking.

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Jose your content is awesome. Appreciate all the insight!
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Old 4 June 2022, 01:11 AM   #22
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Just in, the new P.900 without hacking seconds and completely undecorated.





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That really is atrocious, It’s just totally unacceptable, and that’s coming from a huge Panerai fan not a Rolex fan boy or hater. I’ve waited for a 44mm Submersible for a long time and to see this is so disheartening. Having a 47mm PAM 425 I adore I simply don’t want or need another huge 47mm so looks like my Submersible dream is over.
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I heard they have quietly resumed hacking in certain models but nothing concrete. We shal soon find out.
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My 1/1/22 purchased 683 hacks.
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Old 4 June 2022, 06:40 AM   #25
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Old 4 June 2022, 11:43 AM   #26
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I was ready and excited for a 44mm submersible but I reconsidered after seeing this. I am sorry this is unacceptable for a 10 thousand dollar watch. I also have a 1662 which they removed the hacking feature which I accepted but then finding out they didn't decorate the movement like my beautiful 1320 makes me sick to my stomach esp for a 15k watch. Sorry Panerai you have had so many chances to be great.
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Old 5 June 2022, 12:03 PM   #27
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What I love about Panerai non-hacking movements in that it’s harder to tell what mediocre timekeepers they are.

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What I love about Panerai non-hacking movements in that it’s harder to tell what mediocre timekeepers they are.

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Old 6 June 2022, 04:46 AM   #29
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Undecorated movements, downgrading movements, lightly decorating ETA's and calling them inhouse.. it's infuriating in a brand I love and own multiple watches from.

It'd be one thing if they did it in less expensive models and were upfront about it. I'd be in favor of that to make the brand accessible to more people. Thank god for Jose Pereztroika of Perezcope for shining a light on their unethical practices over the years.

I hope they get back on the right track but Panerai has a long history of cutting corners in certain models to make an extra buck.

I still may buy another one but with Panerai you really have to research the exact year and model you're buying to make sure you're getting your money's worth.

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P.900 Movement

What happened to this movement?



It’s the one on the website…makes one wonder…

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