5224 g issues

[amgdriver63]

New guy here sobsorry if im not using proper proceedure. I have comitted to a PP 5224 Caltrava pilot travel time WG from my AD. There is a trade involved. I will share general pricing details afterward. Should arrive Wed. Based on past history I am expecting 15% or better off retail. I have a good history with AD. I have spent most of the day digging thru confusing info with regard to switching bands and possibly going to a wg deployment clasp with small black band. Extremely frustrating. My AD is a great guy and a good friend. But he is not a wealth of info when it cones to one off and custom stuff. He says that PP does not list a deployment clasp for this example bit I could swear that I have seen a 5224 with a deploy clasp of some type. Please chime in if anyone has suggestions.I have a good many Rolex examples AP and another Patek. Im on the famous " list. "for any steel sport Patek. Been on " the list" since 2015. Hopefully the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus will bring me one before I die. Thanks in advance for any info.

[amgdriver63]

that should be 5524
sorry. its late. long day

[Snarltorialist]

Originally Posted by amgdriver63

New guy here sobsorry if im not using proper proceedure. I have comitted to a PP 5224 Caltrava pilot travel time WG from my AD. There is a trade involved. I will share general pricing details afterward. Should arrive Wed. Based on past history I am expecting 15% or better off retail. I have a good history with AD. I have spent most of the day digging thru confusing info with regard to switching bands and possibly going to a wg deployment clasp with small black band. Extremely frustrating. My AD is a great guy and a good friend. But he is not a wealth of info when it cones to one off and custom stuff. He says that PP does not list a deployment clasp for this example bit I could swear that I have seen a 5224 with a deploy clasp of some type. Please chime in if anyone has suggestions.I have a good many Rolex examples AP and another Patek. Im on the famous " list. "for any steel sport Patek. Been on " the list" since 2015. Hopefully the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus will bring me one before I die. Thanks in advance for any info.

Here to help; your AD is mistaken. A deployant/deployment clasp is available and the below pic is what I got from my local PP service centre in Singapore. Was quoted a cost of SGD$4820 (so you can work out the currency conversion, depending on where you are based).

Suffice to say, you’ll need a different strap as well. Straps that sit on the default tang buckle have square holes punched; while straps paired with the deployant have got round holes punched (in case you’re interested in knowing the difference).

[IBDOC]

5524 by default comes with a clevis prong buckle with 18mm buckle end and 3x2mm rectangular holes for the strap and no strap notch for the pin (because clevis prong).

You can change that to a 16mm deployant for a cost I’m sure but the you’d have to order 21/16mm Calatrava straps sized for deployants (125/65mm instead of 115/75 if medium).

Generally speaking I’d say the existing buckle fits the style much better. The Calatrava logo deployant is way to dandy for a 42mm pilot.

As to whether something ”off model” can be ordered it’s often at the discretion of the AD. PP does not formally allow this to happen but a deployant for a 5524G should be easier to negotiate than getting a limited edition replacement strap etc.

[mjm700]

In a related question, i was looking through old threads and couldn’t quite figure out if any of the blue strap options for the original buckle on the 5524G is only a custom order with the associated long wait time?


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[IBDOC]

Originally Posted by mjm700

In a related question, i was looking through old threads and couldn’t quite figure out if any of the blue strap options for the original buckle on the 5524G is only a custom order with the associated long wait time?


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Custom order. The only two that are made to stock are standard brown 5524G/R straps and the black grained 5520P-strap.

[mjm700]

Originally Posted by IBDOC

Custom order. The only two that are made to stock are standard brown 5524G/R straps and the black grained 5520P-strap.

Ugh. Thanks. Going to be a long wait. Will need to figure out if any interim options make sense while i impatiently wait. I agree with the earlier post how other buckles / strap sizes don’t quite match the size of the watch. Same with the deploy option, the dressy character of the cross also doesn’t seem to fit as well imo


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[qrc36]

Originally Posted by mjm700

In a related question, i was looking through old threads and couldn’t quite figure out if any of the blue strap options for the original buckle on the 5524G is only a custom order with the associated long wait time?


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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...54#post9346854

Answer is here. You can get the blue ones at the Salon in Geneva.

My AD in Hong Kong (still) can't order them at all - custom made or not, Patek won't supply them.


And about deployants - I got a white gold deployant at the Salon in Geneva (on another visit, not the 5524 blue strap visit) together with the blue suede strap (originally for the 5172) which fits the 5212A. Again, the strap and deployant were sold to me with no questions asked. They didn't care if I had the 5212 or not, they were happy to sell me the strap and the deployant.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...0#post10181730

[Snarltorialist]

Interesting to learn how inconvenient it is in other markets; it’s a straightforward 4 week lead time via the PP service centre who can order your clasp, strap etc

[amgdriver63]

Thanks so much for great info. Extremely helpful. Ny AD is getting the runaround
from his sources as atated here PP does not like their stuff changed around. I foung a gentleman in Montreal Aaron Bespoke who will make me whatever at a decent cost.

I pulled the trigger on the watch and will have it tomorrow new from AD. He discounted the watch 8% and offered me straight out retail for my trade. If I had been buying strictly cash I could have squeezed a few more bucks out but Im very dependent on this AD for lots of issues so I did not nickel and dime the deal. I did find it cheaper new from an AD in Bev Hills but all things consideted I did the deal not having to deal with selling my other watch. I would say if you are not getting a quote in the 50 k range delivered keep shopping. There is also a purchase history issue at play here. I shopped thus deal to death and I dont think that anything else touches this watch for the price. I still think the patek logo deployment clasp and black gator is the look. Many thanks for sll input and coments

[qrc36]

Originally Posted by Snarltorialist

Interesting to learn how inconvenient it is in other markets; it’s a straightforward 4 week lead time via the PP service centre who can order your clasp, strap etc

Yes, it's totally frustrating when I can walk into the Geneva salon and buy the dark blue 5524 strap (I actually bought 3 of them) without any hassle at all. They didn't need proof that I had the watch, no questions asked. I didn't buy any other things on that visit, I didn't even ask to view any watches, and I don't have any purchase history at that store. Even got a few gifts from that store when leaving!

Compared to Hong Kong, I ask my AD and they send a request to the local Patek distributor, and they say I can't order it because it's not in their catalog, and I can't make a special order/custom order either because it doesn't exist. But hello .... why can I walk into the Geneva salon and buy it so easily? Half a year later my friend also wants this dark blue strap and asked his AD in Hong Kong, and the answer was also no ..... he took my new strap with the packaging and the receipt from the Geneva salon to his AD, told him the product actually exists (his AD questioned if it was a third party strap before he showed them my strap + receipt) ... in the end I bought the 5524 blue strap for him in Geneva when I bought the 5172 blue suede strap + deployant for my 5212.

And Hong Kong is supposed to be a big market for Patek (I don't know the sales numbers but apparently in the top 5 or even top 3?) or else there won't be 5 ADs within 5 minutes walk from my office ... can't they make life a bit easier for those of us who appreciate their products and are only asking for a dark blue strap?

Oops my rant was a bit too long ... apologies to those who read all of this!

[amgdriver63]

This project is coming together. Ordered a wg deploy clasp. and a shiny black alligator strap from Henri Stern in NYC. Everything was in stock. Clasp was around 2800 and strap was like 465 after shipping. After looking at the cowjide strap which is standard I just cant warm up tonit against the beautiful blue dial. I get the retro thing going on but for my taste the WG deploy with the black gator strap just rocks. Dress up dress down- it checks off all the blocks. This will be my only PP for now until I get a hit from the fantasy" list" or I find a vintage example that I like. I cant bring myself around to appreciate dress watches. Im loaded with sterl Rolex professionals and my AP RO offshore chrono. Now everything I like or want is 3x retail costwise. Other than the Aquanaut or the Naut The 5524 is my favorite PP. I cant wait to see this example with the new clasp installed

[Yobrooks]

Looking forward to some pictures. My 5524g arrives tomorrow. I am thinking about a deployant clasp as well.

[Snarltorialist]

Originally Posted by amgdriver63

This project is coming together. Ordered a wg deploy clasp. and a shiny black alligator strap from Henri Stern in NYC. Everything was in stock. Clasp was around 2800 and strap was like 465 after shipping. After looking at the cowjide strap which is standard I just cant warm up tonit against the beautiful blue dial. I get the retro thing going on but for my taste the WG deploy with the black gator strap just rocks. Dress up dress down- it checks off all the blocks. This will be my only PP for now until I get a hit from the fantasy" list" or I find a vintage example that I like. I cant bring myself around to appreciate dress watches. Im loaded with sterl Rolex professionals and my AP RO offshore chrono. Now everything I like or want is 3x retail costwise. Other than the Aquanaut or the Naut The 5524 is my favorite PP. I cant wait to see this example with the new clasp installed

$2800 for the clasp is a great price; will they ship internationally or to a remote shipper like vPost?

[Yobrooks]

Finally got my 5524 and put on the 5172 blue strap with white stitching... Looks great, though not a perfect fit. Love the ease of the clasp as well.

[amgdriver63]

blue strap is killer
gointbto have one made for mine at some point

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by Yobrooks

Finally got my 5524 and put on the 5172 blue strap with white stitching... Looks great, though not a perfect fit. Love the ease of the clasp as well.

Looks nice on blue. Is that 21mm ?
I went with a blue leather, white stitching, pilot style strap. But, no way I’m spending $$$$ on deployment clasp, I’m way to active when wearing mine and it’s scratched after a day or two. I’m sticking with SS, thumbnail.



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[Yobrooks]

Love that strap as well. My strap is not 21 mm, I just put it on to compare with the brown standard strap. I do love the clasp, and wish it fit with the 21 mm blue strap . Where did you get the blue strap?

[rdragon]

Originally Posted by Richris1

Looks nice on blue. Is that 21mm ?
I went with a blue leather, white stitching, pilot style strap. But, no way I’m spending $$$$ on deployment clasp, I’m way to active when wearing mine and it’s scratched after a day or two. I’m sticking with SS, thumbnail.

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Looks neat. Do you enjoy this or your WG GMT more?

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by rdragon

Looks neat. Do you enjoy this or your WG GMT more?

Thank you. I choose this over the Rolex.


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[rdragon]

Originally Posted by Richris1

Thank you. I choose this over the Rolex.


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Are you using the original clevis prong buckle? What aspects/characteristics of the 5524 makes you like it more?

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by Yobrooks

Love that strap as well. My strap is not 21 mm, I just put it on to compare with the brown standard strap. I do love the clasp, and wish it fit with the 21 mm blue strap . Where did you get the blue strap?

I have a couple straps from PP, but I like the more rugged leather and look of the straps I have from Gunny Straps and B&R bands, the blue one I have on is from B&R. I use the SS buckles that come with the straps. I really don’t care much about the clasp, don’t see ‘em, and they get scratched quickly anyway.


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[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by rdragon

Are you using the original clevis prong buckle? What aspects/characteristics of the 5524 makes you like it more?

I use the SS buckles that come with the straps. I really don’t need or want to spend $$$$ on a clasp/buckle. I never see ‘em, and they’re scratched pretty quickly anyway. If it was a dress watch I used for special occasions, maybe then.
I really love pilot style watches, and was very happy when PP came out with this watch. I like to have a couple pieces on leather, nato, rubber, etc…and PP is great on leather, but I don’t need a dress watch. So this one checks a lot of boxes for me personally. I have other Rolex, and let’s be honest…they’re all fairly similar at a glance…shape, size, style, etc. …(Daytona with pushers being the exception) I know it looks similar to other pilot watches, but as I always say, WG, PT, or most high end white metal watches for that matter (unless covered/encrusted with diamonds),don’t get noticed anyway. They’re for the pride/enjoyment of the owner.


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[rdragon]

Originally Posted by Richris1

I use the SS buckles that come with the straps. I really don’t need or want to spend $$$$ on a clasp/buckle. I never see ‘em, and they’re scratched pretty quickly anyway. If it was a dress watch I used for special occasions, maybe then.
I really love pilot style watches, and was very happy when PP came out with this watch. I like to have a couple pieces on leather, nato, rubber, etc…and PP is great on leather, but I don’t need a dress watch. So this one checks a lot of boxes for me personally. I have other Rolex, and let’s be honest…they’re all fairly similar at a glance…shape, size, style, etc. …(Daytona with pushers being the exception) I know it looks similar to other pilot watches, but as I always say, WG, PT, or most high end white metal watches for that matter (unless covered/encrusted with diamonds),don’t get noticed anyway. They’re for the pride/enjoyment of the owner.


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Thanks. Agree that most Rolex models look very similar and am on the same page with you on WG/PT.

Do you still have the BLRO GMT or is it too similar in the sense that they are both WG GMT's with a blue dial or are you able to enjoy both in the collection?

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by rdragon

Thanks. Agree that most Rolex models look very similar and am on the same page with you on WG/PT.

Do you still have the BLRO GMT or is it too similar in the sense that they are both WG GMT's with a blue dial or are you able to enjoy both in the collection?

They certainly can be enjoyed together in a collection, they’re very different looking watches, but my needs don’t call for both. I acquired a new WG Rolex piece recently that fits my persona/lifestyle a bit more, so the Rolex WG gmt wasn’t going to see any wrist time amongst those three. So, if it’s not going to get worn in regular rotation, I’ll move them on.

[rdragon]

Originally Posted by Richris1

They certainly can be enjoyed together in a collection, they’re very different looking watches, but my needs don’t call for both. I acquired a new WG Rolex piece recently that fits my persona/lifestyle a bit more, so the Rolex WG gmt wasn’t going to see any wrist time amongst those three. So, if it’s not going to get worn in regular rotation, I’ll move them on.

Makes sense. Do you ever find the GMT pushers accidentally unlocking and getting pushed resulting in the GMT hand being off? I've heard the 5164 and 5990 tends to get pushed accidentally and wondering if this model does as well or if the locking mechanism is fairly sturdy enough to prevent that.

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by rdragon

Makes sense. Do you ever find the GMT pushers accidentally unlocking and getting pushed resulting in the GMT hand being off? I've heard the 5164 and 5990 tends to get pushed accidentally and wondering if this model does as well or if the locking mechanism is fairly sturdy enough to prevent that.

Has never happened to me.

[rdragon]

Originally Posted by Richris1

Has never happened to me.

Thanks, glad to hear.