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chogge · 10 November 2009, 05:51 AM

Hi there.

I am thinking of buying a Rolex Submariner Date, but I have heard that a new Submariner Ceramic-bezel are coming soon.

My quiestions are:
Does someone know for sure what the new sub gonna feature when it comes to movement, design, bracelet and so?

Price?

Release date?

Don´t know if it´s worth waiting??

Dr.B · 10 November 2009, 05:55 AM

I went to an AD this weekend in Richmond, VA. One of the salesmen told me indeed it was coming out ( but it is not yet printed on the 2009-2010 catalog).

stupidugly · 10 November 2009, 05:56 AM

You'll be waiting a while if you're going to wait for the new SS sub. If you like the current sub, grab it. You can't go wrong.

ducatidoc · 10 November 2009, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chogge

Hi there.

I am thinking of buying a Rolex Submariner Date, but I have heard that a new Submariner Ceramic-bezel are coming soon.

My quiestions are:
Does someone know for sure what the new sub gonna feature when it comes to movement, design, bracelet and so?

Price?Will, in all likelihood be significantly more expensive

Release date?

Don´t know if it´s worth waiting??

Only thing you can definitely count on.

smc · 10 November 2009, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chogge

Don´t know if it´s worth waiting??

I didn't wait. But I also wanted lug holes so I found a virtually new y series.

Speed · 10 November 2009, 06:14 AM

Don't wait. You are looking at least a year +.

Rumours abound, but just look at the new gold subs and two tone subs. The "Super" larger cases you can count on. Maxi dials & hands...

Big debate is whether or not the new sub bracelet will have polished / shiny center links like the new GMT IICs and the gold /two tone subs.

Price will likely be ~ greater $6K...likely closer to $7K. Prices on used current model subs may go up.

You have a lot to think about ;-)

mike · 10 November 2009, 06:23 AM

Conventional wisdom says maxi dial, ceramic insert, updated clasp and bracelet as well as the block case as with the current TTs/WG/ etc.. examples out there.

Release date will be around Bazel next year, but getting to the ADs will be longer.

I have no idea about pricing, but the estemates given sound pretty good.

Bullyterrier · 10 November 2009, 06:41 AM

No one knows for sure what it will be like or the price. it is only speculation.
As to waiting, it depends how desperate you are for a submariner. Or how patient you are.

robbonds · 10 November 2009, 07:07 AM

Get a gmt ceramic or wait. If you are like me you will be upsetyou font have the updated improved model especially if you just bought it (a year or so ago)

Dr.Brian · 10 November 2009, 07:26 AM

Option 1: Get current sub now = $6000 - 15-20%.
Option 2: wait a year (at least) for the blingy new model = $7000+ with no discount (for at least another year).
The new "upgrades" are not worth the wait or the extra $$ (possibly >$2000!). Go with the classic! You can be enjoying it TOMORROW and be well on your way to that Datejust that you know that you've been looking at out of the corner of your eye.

jamesworthy52 · 10 November 2009, 07:35 AM

I am in a similar situation - I like the sub and the gmt IIc. I am either going to get the gmt IIc now or wait for the new sub. I just really like the look and durability of the ceramic bezel.

JRA21 · 10 November 2009, 07:38 AM

The PRICE !!!!

snow_rocks · 10 November 2009, 07:40 AM

wait

Art 1 · 10 November 2009, 07:40 AM

If you want the Sub Date you otta go get one. You may not even like the new Sub Date.

Speed · 10 November 2009, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

Option 1: Get current sub now = $6000 - 15-20%.
Option 2: wait a year (at least) for the blingy new model = $7000+ with no discount (for at least another year).
The new "upgrades" are not worth the wait or the extra $$ (possibly >$2000!). Go with the classic! You can be enjoying it TOMORROW and be well on your way to that Datejust that you know that you've been looking at out of the corner of your eye.

Actually...slight mod to Dr. Brian's rec.

Get a pre-owned / mint Sub from a TRF seller for ~$3600 - 4,000. Enjoy the hell out of it for a year +. If you LOVE he new Sub, sell the old one and buy new...or not!!!

rolexnovice · 10 November 2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chogge

Hi there.

I am thinking of buying a Rolex Submariner Date, but I have heard that a new Submariner Ceramic-bezel are coming soon.

My quiestions are:
Does someone know for sure what the new sub gonna feature when it comes to movement, design, bracelet and so?

Price?

Release date?

Don´t know if it´s worth waiting??

I'm waiting...I KNOW it will be worth it. The durabilty of the Ceramic bezel (according to Rolex ads) are a great asset. Plus, it will give me time to save for the price (which doesn't worry me at all). I always wanted a Stainless Steel Sub, so the fact that one will be released with the intent to be more durable, larger and dare I say....cooler, will make it all the more worth it.

I enjoy the anticipation....but I'm also a patient guy, some aren't so willing to be.

chogge · 10 November 2009, 06:15 PM

Thank you all for the great responses!

I will inform you my choice soon.

/Chogge

TABACCO · 10 November 2009, 07:10 PM

goodluck whatever u decide

Andad · 10 November 2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Conventional wisdom says maxi dial, ceramic insert, updated clasp and bracelet as well as the block case as with the current TTs/WG/ etc.. examples out there.

Release date will be around Bazel next year, but getting to the ADs will be longer.

I have no idea about pricing, but the estemates given sound pretty good.

I agree with Mike but would add in a brushed bracelet.
I doubt that Rolex will have PCL's on this one.
It will be a beauty but very expensive in Oz, IMO.

Zgar · 10 November 2009, 11:04 PM

If you could afford multiple Rolex watches go for it But If you can only afford one Then I would wait for the NEW SUB.. Wait wait it'll be worth the wait

zak98 · 10 November 2009, 11:47 PM

like others have said.. if you can afford both. .do it. but if new sub is announced at basel, you probably will not see it an your AD til this time next year... so i would buy a sub now and start saving for the new one.. or at least you have ,if you wish, have something to trade in for 'new" version when you can get one. IMO....

sea-dweller · 11 November 2009, 01:25 AM

I would buy the current model - classic !!!

snowbird · 11 November 2009, 02:13 AM

As others have said the price will likely be about $1k higher when the new SS Sub comes out (it went up $1,100 on the TT version) and it may not be discounted initially . . . another factor to consider is that more generally the kind of discounts available now might not be there once the economy picks up, so the new SS Sub might not ever be available at the current discounts.

Speed · 11 November 2009, 03:07 AM

Don't wait... Buy now. You could get hit by the proverbial bread truck!!

mfer · 11 November 2009, 04:24 AM

MSRP on the 116710 (IIc) is $7000. I think the sub will be higher b/c of the glidelock clasp.

RolexCat · 11 November 2009, 04:32 AM

My AD last week thinks 7k is the round about price on the new Sub. Ron

karmatp · 11 November 2009, 06:33 AM

I would get the current sub now, it does not get any better. The so called upgrades, are just a way of getting more money out of you, you can't beat the durability and reliability of the current model.

Good4Dan · 11 November 2009, 06:45 AM

In the same boat as the OP. Must say I'm attracted to the classic look of the Subs and am leaning toward taking the plunge.

NavitimerNut · 11 November 2009, 06:48 AM

Buy a new (current) sub, if you like the new version trade it, if you don't keep it.

dannyp · 11 November 2009, 06:48 AM

I'd buy the current Sub. If I'd been Rolex shopping a few years ago, I'd have gone with a Coke GMT over either the GMT IIc or even the Exp. II I purchased because I really liked the more classic look.

Do you have to have the date? I ask because if not, buy the current no-date. There are rumors (and I'm stressing that they're just rumors) that this piece will go away and if you can afford it, you can end up with two very different watches, a classic Sub no-date and a new ceramic Sub Date (if you even like it).

10 November 2009, 05:51 AM	#1
chogge "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex Gmt BLNR Posts: 74	Should I wait or not? Hi there. I am thinking of buying a Rolex Submariner Date, but I have heard that a new Submariner Ceramic-bezel are coming soon. My quiestions are: Does someone know for sure what the new sub gonna feature when it comes to movement, design, bracelet and so? Price? Release date? Don´t know if it´s worth waiting??

10 November 2009, 06:41 AM	#8
Bullyterrier "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: . Posts: 1,343	No one knows for sure what it will be like or the price. it is only speculation. As to waiting, it depends how desperate you are for a submariner. Or how patient you are. __________________ So Mote it be.

10 November 2009, 07:07 AM	#9
robbonds "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida Watch: ROO Posts: 1,040	Get a gmt ceramic or wait. If you are like me you will be upsetyou font have the updated improved model especially if you just bought it (a year or so ago) __________________ 41mm SS ROC blue dial

10 November 2009, 07:38 AM	#12
JRA21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Joshua R Asch Location: NY, Brooklyn Watch: Sub Posts: 293	The PRICE !!!! __________________ *JRA*

10 November 2009, 11:47 PM	#21
zak98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: TN Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,166	like others have said.. if you can afford both. .do it. but if new sub is announced at basel, you probably will not see it an your AD til this time next year... so i would buy a sub now and start saving for the new one.. or at least you have ,if you wish, have something to trade in for 'new" version when you can get one. IMO.... __________________ Z- Submariner; P- Airking; R- DateJust; M- GMTII; C0 - Milgauss GV Breitling SuperOcean Heritage 46 Omega Speedmaster Racing Panerai PAM390

10 November 2009, 05:55 AM	#2
Dr.B "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Fernando Location: North Carolina Watch: SS White Daytona Posts: 1,944	I went to an AD this weekend in Richmond, VA. One of the salesmen told me indeed it was coming out ( but it is not yet printed on the 2009-2010 catalog).

10 November 2009, 05:56 AM	#3
stupidugly Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: here Posts: 83	You'll be waiting a while if you're going to wait for the new SS sub. If you like the current sub, grab it. You can't go wrong.

10 November 2009, 06:14 AM	#6
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Don't wait. You are looking at least a year +. Rumours abound, but just look at the new gold subs and two tone subs. The "Super" larger cases you can count on. Maxi dials & hands... Big debate is whether or not the new sub bracelet will have polished / shiny center links like the new GMT IICs and the gold /two tone subs. Price will likely be ~ greater $6K...likely closer to $7K. Prices on used current model subs may go up. You have a lot to think about ;-)

10 November 2009, 06:23 AM	#7
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Conventional wisdom says maxi dial, ceramic insert, updated clasp and bracelet as well as the block case as with the current TTs/WG/ etc.. examples out there. Release date will be around Bazel next year, but getting to the ADs will be longer. I have no idea about pricing, but the estemates given sound pretty good.

10 November 2009, 07:26 AM	#10
Dr.Brian 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: CA dreamin' Watch: ing the market. Posts: 5,906	Option 1: Get current sub now = $6000 - 15-20%. Option 2: wait a year (at least) for the blingy new model = $7000+ with no discount (for at least another year). The new "upgrades" are not worth the wait or the extra $$ (possibly >$2000!). Go with the classic! You can be enjoying it TOMORROW and be well on your way to that Datejust that you know that you've been looking at out of the corner of your eye.

10 November 2009, 07:35 AM	#11
jamesworthy52 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: Florida Posts: 333	I am in a similar situation - I like the sub and the gmt IIc. I am either going to get the gmt IIc now or wait for the new sub. I just really like the look and durability of the ceramic bezel.

10 November 2009, 07:40 AM	#13
snow_rocks Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Rick Location: At what TIME?!!! Watch: the SKY tonite! Posts: 3,225	wait

10 November 2009, 07:40 AM	#14
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	If you want the Sub Date you otta go get one. You may not even like the new Sub Date.

10 November 2009, 06:15 PM	#17
chogge "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex Gmt BLNR Posts: 74	Thank you all for the great responses! I will inform you my choice soon. /Chogge

10 November 2009, 07:10 PM	#18
TABACCO "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: ED Location: PHILIPPINES Posts: 377	goodluck whatever u decide

10 November 2009, 11:04 PM	#20
Zgar Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 459	If you could afford multiple Rolex watches go for it But If you can only afford one Then I would wait for the NEW SUB.. Wait wait it'll be worth the wait

11 November 2009, 01:25 AM	#22
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I would buy the current model - classic !!! __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

11 November 2009, 02:13 AM	#23
snowbird "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 2,157	As others have said the price will likely be about $1k higher when the new SS Sub comes out (it went up $1,100 on the TT version) and it may not be discounted initially . . . another factor to consider is that more generally the kind of discounts available now might not be there once the economy picks up, so the new SS Sub might not ever be available at the current discounts.

11 November 2009, 03:07 AM	#24
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Don't wait... Buy now. You could get hit by the proverbial bread truck!!

11 November 2009, 04:24 AM	#25
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	MSRP on the 116710 (IIc) is $7000. I think the sub will be higher b/c of the glidelock clasp. __________________ member#3242

11 November 2009, 04:32 AM	#26
RolexCat Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Ron Location: Michigan Watch: SD Posts: 318	My AD last week thinks 7k is the round about price on the new Sub. Ron

11 November 2009, 06:33 AM	#27
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	I would get the current sub now, it does not get any better. The so called upgrades, are just a way of getting more money out of you, you can't beat the durability and reliability of the current model. __________________ My grails:

11 November 2009, 06:45 AM	#28
Good4Dan "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 4	In the same boat as the OP. Must say I'm attracted to the classic look of the Subs and am leaning toward taking the plunge.

11 November 2009, 06:48 AM	#29
NavitimerNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Caleb Location: California Watch: Rolex 1500 Posts: 1,295	Buy a new (current) sub, if you like the new version trade it, if you don't keep it.

11 November 2009, 06:48 AM	#30
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	I'd buy the current Sub. If I'd been Rolex shopping a few years ago, I'd have gone with a Coke GMT over either the GMT IIc or even the Exp. II I purchased because I really liked the more classic look. Do you have to have the date? I ask because if not, buy the current no-date. There are rumors (and I'm stressing that they're just rumors) that this piece will go away and if you can afford it, you can end up with two very different watches, a classic Sub no-date and a new ceramic Sub Date (if you even like it).

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