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subgmt · 23 November 2009, 11:32 AM

Hi there,

I have seen 2 types of GMT2c Clasp Logo color?

There are grey and black printed logo? It was mentioned that grey was found in the Z series of the GMT 2c SS and IT became black in the M series........

Mine is grey color and code OP (sandblasted).

All GMT2c owners M or V series......can you share the pics of your clasp?

Why change from grey to black?

Sub'erman · 23 November 2009, 12:03 PM

Hmm..
can you show with a pic??
I don't understand what you mean??
Is it the logo on the flip or on the logo inside the clasp??

subgmt · 23 November 2009, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub'erman

Hmm..
can you show with a pic??
I don't understand what you mean??
Is it the logo on the flip or on the logo inside the clasp??

Grey - checkout - there is this 15/423 (Do you all have this on your GMT2c?)

Black

Damage Inc. · 23 November 2009, 01:01 PM

FWIW mine (Z serial, OP10 clasp code) looks just like yours...that is to say, gray.
And yes, mine also has the 15/423.

Sub'erman · 23 November 2009, 01:10 PM

Hmm gotta check it!!!

subgmt · 23 November 2009, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damage Inc.

FWIW mine (Z serial, OP10 clasp code) looks just like yours...that is to say, gray.
And yes, mine also has the 15/423.

Sounds right for grey clasp and Z serial.

For those who have M or V series - do you have the 15/423?

Another pic illustration

Grey

Black

jamesworthy52 · 23 November 2009, 02:39 PM

Sorry for the low-res pictures (taken with an iPhone). I have a V serial GMT IIc and mine had the black writing.

0800am · 23 November 2009, 02:58 PM

I have V series and color in black and no 15/423

What is 15/423 mean?

hng · 23 November 2009, 03:16 PM

v series here: black and no 15/423

glendon21 · 23 November 2009, 04:24 PM

m series,gray, w/15/423, eo3

subgmt · 23 November 2009, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glendon21

m series,gray, w/15/423, eo3

This is interesting. how we wish that those with 15/423 is the limited edition of 50 anniversary GMT2c edition.

Looks like V series has black print only. Only Z & M series has grey then. @the first edition GMT2c.

BASSETHOUNDS · 23 November 2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subgmt

Sounds right for grey clasp and Z serial.

For those who have M or V series - do you have the 15/423?

Another pic illustration

Grey

Black

No too sure , I have so far only seen black on all new style clasps .
What is this type of wrapping / protection as shown on the second picture . Never seen this on any Rolex ? Is this original ?

swatty · 23 November 2009, 07:01 PM

My M series is grey

Imran · 24 November 2009, 02:03 AM

would be interesting to know if, in some of the reported clasp failures due to spot welds coming apart, whether the clasps had gray or black printing and if any corellation exists.

lamnyc · 24 November 2009, 04:06 AM

M series, grey printing, eo 5. Do not have 15/423.

ticowa · 24 November 2009, 06:42 AM

I have an M series with gray coloring. No 15/423.

Lamncy, Do you have a E010?

Subgmt has an E02

This is interesting.

RPB · 24 November 2009, 06:47 AM

Mine is a V serial too and is black with no 15/423 info.

subgmt · 24 November 2009, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamnyc

M series, grey printing, eo 5. Do not have 15/423.

During the midst of M Series, the clasp printing transits from grey to black..........and Rolex removed the 15/423 code which could be the code for experimental clasp grey printing on the initial Z series GMT2c - 1st Generation of the actual 50 years anniversary.

Wouldnt this made all Z series GMT2c owners unique!!!!! You are the only ones who will have the clasp with code 15/432.

It will be the most sought after GMT2c SS Green GMT of all time.....

What if Rolex remove the green GMT wording and replace with white in future....Then it will be the Single green GMT2c SS in future for all Z, M and V series........we wish right?

subgmt · 24 November 2009, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

No too sure , I have so far only seen black on all new style clasps .
What is this type of wrapping / protection as shown on the second picture . Never seen this on any Rolex ? Is this original ?

Nope....the wrapping is unusual and from a grey dealer trying to prevent their new rolex from being scratched. AD can have 1 to 1 exchange if any scratch found but not grey dealers.....

subgmt · 24 November 2009, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ticowa

I have an M series with gray coloring. No 15/423.

Lamncy, Do you have a E010?

Subgmt has an E02

This is interesting.

Not sure if Larry would support that we start this mini-project of gathering M Series GMT2c SS Clasp code and Serial number gathering info and we can predict which MXXXXXX series did the clasp transit from grey print to black print...and nail down Rolex's EOL of experimental clasp.

All GMT2c owners....fall in......Report M Series code and Clasp code........

Please add-on to the list

I have seen:
Z80XXXX and OP10 with Code 15/432 (grey print)
M02XXXX and E02 with code 15/432 (grey print)
V20XXXX and PJ12 with no code 15/432 (Black print)

Please add on

ticowa · 24 November 2009, 07:31 AM

M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print)

dimster · 24 November 2009, 10:06 AM

V7XX series, black print

subgmt · 24 November 2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subgmt

Not sure if Larry would support that we start this mini-project of gathering M Series GMT2c SS Clasp code and Serial number gathering info and we can predict which MXXXXXX series did the clasp transit from grey print to black print...and nail down Rolex's EOL of experimental clasp.

All GMT2c owners....fall in......Report M Series code and Clasp code........

Please add-on to the list

GMT2c Clasp Code and print project

Z80XXXX and OP10 with Code 15/432 (grey print) (subgmt)
ZXXXXXX and Op10 with code 15/432 (grey print) (Damageinc)
M02XXXX and E02 with code 15/432 (grey print)
MXXXXXXand EO3 with code 15/432 (grey) (Glendon21)
------------------------------------------------------------
M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print) (Ticowa)
V20XXXX and PJ12 with no code (Black print)
V7XX series, black print with no code (dimster)
VXXXXXX, Black print (Jamesworthy)
V Black (0800am)
V black (hng)

Please contribute for Rolex Knowledge and education.....

ingoodtime · 24 November 2009, 11:28 AM

I have an M74 series GMT with black writing on the clasp. I do not have the 15/243. This watch was purchased from an AD.

lamnyc · 24 November 2009, 11:49 AM

M16XXXX and EO5 with no code.

Porsche · 24 November 2009, 11:50 AM

OK, in the interests of science, I'll donate as well...

M95 series
Grey writing
PJ2
No code

So, to add to your list below

Z80XXXX and OP10 with Code 15/432 (grey print) (subgmt)
ZXXXXXX and Op10 with code 15/432 (grey print) (Damageinc)
M02XXXX and E02 with code 15/432 (grey print)
MXXXXXXand EO3 with code 15/432 (grey) (Glendon21)
------------------------------------------------------------
M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print) (Ticowa)
V20XXXX and PJ12 with no code (Black print)
V7XX series, black print with no code (dimster)
VXXXXXX, Black print (Jamesworthy)
V Black (0800am)
M95XXX Grey print, PJ2 no code (Porsche)

So looks like mine is the rarest one... I'll sel to the highest bidder!

No seriously, would be interesting to know the details of the 2-3 clasp failures reported so far...

PS. are you sure about code PJ12? Mine is PJ2.... does that mean they went through numbers 2, 3, 4 etc or just added a "1" or maybe just a typo by you?

subgmt · 24 November 2009, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche

OK, in the interests of science, I'll donate as well...

M95 series
Grey writing
PJ2
No code

So, to add to your list below

Z80XXXX and OP10 with Code 15/432 (grey print) (subgmt)
ZXXXXXX and Op10 with code 15/432 (grey print) (Damageinc)
M02XXXX and E02 with code 15/432 (grey print)
MXXXXXXand EO3 with code 15/432 (grey) (Glendon21)
------------------------------------------------------------
M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print) (Ticowa)
M95XXX Grey print, PJ2 no code (Porsche)
V20XXXX and PJ2 with no code (Black print)
V7XX series, black print with no code (dimster)
VXXXXXX, Black print (Jamesworthy)
V Black (0800am)

So looks like mine is the rarest one... I'll sel to the highest bidder!

No seriously, would be interesting to know the details of the 2-3 clasp failures reported so far...

PS. are you sure about code PJ12? Mine is PJ2.... does that mean they went through numbers 2, 3, 4 etc or just added a "1" or maybe just a typo by you?

You are right on. typo...PJ2.

subgmt · 24 November 2009, 12:57 PM

Please feel free to add it by yourself

Z80XXXX and OP10 with Code 15/432 (grey print) (subgmt)
ZXXXXXX and Op10 with code 15/432 (grey print) (Damageinc)
MXXXXXX and E02 with code 15/432 (grey print)
M?XXXXXand EO3 with code 15/432 (grey) (Glendon21)
------------------------------------------------------------
M16XXXX and EO5 with no code. (lamnyc)
M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print) (Ticowa)
M74 series GMT with black writing (ingoodtime)
M95XXX Grey print, PJ2 no code (Porsche)
V20XXXX and PJ2 with no code (Black print)
V7XX series, black print with no code (dimster)
VXXXXXX, Black print (Jamesworthy)
V Black (0800am)

mkultra · 24 November 2009, 01:15 PM

my 116710:

M94 series
Grey writing
PJ2
No code

0800am · 24 November 2009, 01:17 PM

Please feel free to add it by yourself

Z80XXXX and OP10 with Code 15/432 (grey print) (subgmt)
ZXXXXXX and Op10 with code 15/432 (grey print) (Damageinc)
MXXXXXX and E02 with code 15/432 (grey print)
M?XXXXXand EO3 with code 15/432 (grey) (Glendon21)
------------------------------------------------------------
M16XXXX and EO5 with no code. (lamnyc)
M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print) (Ticowa)
M74 series GMT with black writing (ingoodtime)
M95XXX Grey print, PJ2 no code (Porsche)
V20XXXX and PJ2 with no code (Black print)
V7XX series, black print with no code (dimster)
VXXXXXX, Black print (Jamesworthy)
V34XXXX, Black print PJ6 with no code (0800am)

23 November 2009, 11:32 AM	#1
subgmt "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Near CA Watch: Rado Posts: 104	GMT2c SS Clasp Print color Hi there, I have seen 2 types of GMT2c Clasp Logo color? There are grey and black printed logo? It was mentioned that grey was found in the Z series of the GMT 2c SS and IT became black in the M series........ Mine is grey color and code OP (sandblasted). All GMT2c owners M or V series......can you share the pics of your clasp? Why change from grey to black?

23 November 2009, 12:03 PM	#2
Sub'erman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: SK Location: Greenland Watch: Various SUBs Posts: 473	Hmm.. can you show with a pic?? I don't understand what you mean?? Is it the logo on the flip or on the logo inside the clasp?? __________________ Founder and CEO of the "BLUME" Club Rolex ref: 14060 - 92', 16600- 06', 116610LN 11' In Da House!! He who only loves one woman and one watch, doesn't truly love women or watches!! "Not all that is countable, counts; and not all that counts, is countable"

23 November 2009, 01:01 PM	#4
Damage Inc. "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Vic Location: Colorado, USA Watch: Mechanical!! Posts: 807	FWIW mine (Z serial, OP10 clasp code) looks just like yours...that is to say, gray. And yes, mine also has the 15/423. __________________ "Science tastes like vomit." Kari "Mythbusters hottie" Byron Z-serial GMT IIc 2.92M serial 1675 Pepsi V-serial 16610LV

23 November 2009, 01:10 PM	#5
Sub'erman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: SK Location: Greenland Watch: Various SUBs Posts: 473	Hmm gotta check it!!! __________________ Founder and CEO of the "BLUME" Club Rolex ref: 14060 - 92', 16600- 06', 116610LN 11' In Da House!! He who only loves one woman and one watch, doesn't truly love women or watches!! "Not all that is countable, counts; and not all that counts, is countable"

23 November 2009, 03:16 PM	#9
hng "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: HaNgat Location: Jakarta Watch: Sports Rolex Posts: 648	v series here: black and no 15/423 __________________ Cartier Tank / Suunto Stinger / 16014 / 16610LV / PAM 233 / 116520 / 14060M / 16710 / Omega Constellation

23 November 2009, 02:58 PM	#8
0800am "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 7	I have V series and color in black and no 15/423 What is 15/423 mean?

23 November 2009, 04:24 PM	#10
glendon21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116710 Posts: 51	m series,gray, w/15/423, eo3

23 November 2009, 07:01 PM	#13
swatty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,415	My M series is grey

24 November 2009, 02:03 AM	#14
Imran "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Imran Location: Karachi, Pakistan Watch: Air-King 126900 Posts: 171	would be interesting to know if, in some of the reported clasp failures due to spot welds coming apart, whether the clasps had gray or black printing and if any corellation exists.

24 November 2009, 04:06 AM	#15
lamnyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nyc Posts: 1,762	M series, grey printing, eo 5. Do not have 15/423.

24 November 2009, 06:42 AM	#16
ticowa Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Marc Location: Puget Sound, WA Watch: GMT2C Posts: 50	I have an M series with gray coloring. No 15/423. Lamncy, Do you have a E010? Subgmt has an E02 This is interesting.

24 November 2009, 06:47 AM	#17
RPB "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: United Kingdom Watch: V Serial 116710LN Posts: 284	Mine is a V serial too and is black with no 15/423 info.

24 November 2009, 07:31 AM	#21
ticowa Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Marc Location: Puget Sound, WA Watch: GMT2C Posts: 50	M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print)

24 November 2009, 10:06 AM	#22
dimster "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Denver CO Posts: 361	V7XX series, black print

24 November 2009, 11:49 AM	#25
lamnyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nyc Posts: 1,762	M16XXXX and EO5 with no code.

24 November 2009, 11:50 AM	#26
Porsche 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: John Location: ɹǝpun Watch: and learn Posts: 2,986	OK, in the interests of science, I'll donate as well... M95 series Grey writing PJ2 No code So, to add to your list below Z80XXXX and OP10 with Code 15/432 (grey print) (subgmt) ZXXXXXX and Op10 with code 15/432 (grey print) (Damageinc) M02XXXX and E02 with code 15/432 (grey print) MXXXXXXand EO3 with code 15/432 (grey) (Glendon21) ------------------------------------------------------------ M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print) (Ticowa) V20XXXX and PJ12 with no code (Black print) V7XX series, black print with no code (dimster) VXXXXXX, Black print (Jamesworthy) V Black (0800am) M95XXX Grey print, PJ2 no code (Porsche) So looks like mine is the rarest one... I'll sel to the highest bidder! No seriously, would be interesting to know the details of the 2-3 clasp failures reported so far... PS. are you sure about code PJ12? Mine is PJ2.... does that mean they went through numbers 2, 3, 4 etc or just added a "1" or maybe just a typo by you? __________________ Obey Gravity, it's the Law! ROLEX --- SEIKO --- HEUER TRF REHAUT T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M T H E R O L E X F O R U M

24 November 2009, 12:57 PM	#28
subgmt "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Near CA Watch: Rado Posts: 104	Please feel free to add it by yourself Z80XXXX and OP10 with Code 15/432 (grey print) (subgmt) ZXXXXXX and Op10 with code 15/432 (grey print) (Damageinc) MXXXXXX and E02 with code 15/432 (grey print) M?XXXXXand EO3 with code 15/432 (grey) (Glendon21) ------------------------------------------------------------ M16XXXX and EO5 with no code. (lamnyc) M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print) (Ticowa) M74 series GMT with black writing (ingoodtime) M95XXX Grey print, PJ2 no code (Porsche) V20XXXX and PJ2 with no code (Black print) V7XX series, black print with no code (dimster) VXXXXXX, Black print (Jamesworthy) V Black (0800am)

24 November 2009, 01:15 PM	#29
mkultra "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The War Room Watch: 116200, 116710 Posts: 76	my 116710: M94 series Grey writing PJ2 No code

24 November 2009, 01:17 PM	#30
0800am "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 7	Please feel free to add it by yourself Z80XXXX and OP10 with Code 15/432 (grey print) (subgmt) ZXXXXXX and Op10 with code 15/432 (grey print) (Damageinc) MXXXXXX and E02 with code 15/432 (grey print) M?XXXXXand EO3 with code 15/432 (grey) (Glendon21) ------------------------------------------------------------ M16XXXX and EO5 with no code. (lamnyc) M56xxxxx and E010 with no code (gray print) (Ticowa) M74 series GMT with black writing (ingoodtime) M95XXX Grey print, PJ2 no code (Porsche) V20XXXX and PJ2 with no code (Black print) V7XX series, black print with no code (dimster) VXXXXXX, Black print (Jamesworthy) V34XXXX, Black print PJ6 with no code (0800am)

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