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Clogger · 11 February 2010, 06:40 PM

Allright guys,

I am seriously considering either a ROC or ROO as my next purchase if after Basel nothing from Rolex takes my fancy. I am leaning towards a ROC as I feel it will wear a little better for me due to size.

I will be buying pre owned, just checked Blowers in UK and they always have a few in stock, is there anywhere else in the UK that is a reliable source?

Also any AD's in the Asia area that may offer a good discount?

What in general is a good price pre owned. Generally seems to 40%-50% from new?

I have searched the board but would like to see some more wrist shots if possible.

Thanks for any advice guys.

chas13 · 11 February 2010, 11:58 PM

Hello mate.

When I bought my ROO Ruberclad I used http://carrdiamonds.com/ very knowledgeable guy and a good deal. They have a shop by Liverpool st station so its easy to pop in have a look at the watches . They only have offshores in stock but they can order in more or less anything you want.

scottschoe · 12 February 2010, 04:10 AM

Don't forget to check out the new releases from SIHH; you may want to wait - check out purists and TZ for more info. 50% ROOs seems a bit ambitious, even for used models.

argee1977 · 12 February 2010, 05:32 AM

The ROC is a beauty and i can vouch for Blowers, i've used them a couple of times and they are regarded as about the best dealer in the UK for this sort of thing. There is also www.watches.co.uk who are another huge company, but i don't think they have any ROC's in stock. I know with the exchange rate the UK is a good place to buy just now, but i do see some ROC's going for good prices in the US, it might be worth having a look there or even in the mainland EU as well just to see what the best price is.

Anyway, i hope you get something soon, either the ROC or ROO are nice, although the ROO is a bit bigger and i found it was too big for me unfortunately, but the ROC is perfect for me, especially now i have it on the strap.

argee1977 · 12 February 2010, 06:37 AM

Oh yeah, wrist shot to show size, my wrist is about 6.5" so you can see a ROC fits well, the ROO is just a little on the large side, i moved down from a Panerai 233 and 177 to this as they were just a bit uncomfortable due to the size and they dug into my hand, as you can see by the mark left!

Clogger · 12 February 2010, 05:29 PM

Thanks for the info guys.

Argee, I concur I have used Blowers as well and found them to be excellent.

I will wait until after basel and then make a decesion.

HL65 · 12 February 2010, 10:09 PM

My guess is maybe 40% off new--most likely 35% off of new if you want a real nice LNIB G series or even an F. If getting the Rubber clad--harder to find--still strong in secondary market--13k going rate--14k-14,500k for BNIB. They are not far off of new price--yet below the 20,500 retail!! Here is a shot of my AP ROO Rubberclad--it is a G series from 2/10--BNIB from AD. It is my 3rd AP--highly recommend them-my favorite watch hands down!!

AP RC 1.jpg

argee1977 · 13 February 2010, 05:07 AM

Unfortunately in the UK you won't get deep discounts like that, the main AD's we have for AP are all either in London or quite high end dealers, which tends to mean lower discounts.

If you've used Blowers before then you know that they're pretty good and knowledgeable as well as being very quick with any deals, i have seen both their AP ROC's that they have in stock and have to say i prefer the newer 26300ST they have over the older 25860 with the basic white dial, but i do think the price is a little steep.

Clogger · 13 February 2010, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

Unfortunately in the UK you won't get deep discounts like that, the main AD's we have for AP are all either in London or quite high end dealers, which tends to mean lower discounts.

If you've used Blowers before then you know that they're pretty good and knowledgeable as well as being very quick with any deals, i have seen both their AP ROC's that they have in stock and have to say i prefer the newer 26300ST they have over the older 25860 with the basic white dial, but i do think the price is a little steep.

Yeah, I think I will deal Blowers then, although I may have to make an offer as I believe he has had both those ROC's in for quite a while. I will keep an eye on his stock.

SteelerFan that's a nice watch.

Thanks again guys.

WatchTimes · 13 February 2010, 03:06 PM

I want a ROO but at 6.8 in wrists I am just still unsure
and yes I have tried them on.

I also like the RO BUT it will not fill my wants at the moment.
Its dressier and I have my dressy grail coming soon!!!

It really is a tough choice.
The new White and Gray dials on the ROO are simply stunning!
My grail ROO would be the 18K RG Rubberclad that is just AMAZING!

AP did announce a 37 mm ROO BUT I really think that going to be
thought of as a womans watch by most watch people and will likely
have a poor resale value (just my 2 cents)

Joey_V · 13 February 2010, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

Oh yeah, wrist shot to show size, my wrist is about 6.5" so you can see a ROC fits well, the ROO is just a little on the large side, i moved down from a Panerai 233 and 177 to this as they were just a bit uncomfortable due to the size and they dug into my hand, as you can see by the mark left!

Wow..

argee1977 · 13 February 2010, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYogi

I want a ROO but at 6.8 in wrists I am just still unsure
and yes I have tried them on.

I also like the RO BUT it will not fill my wants at the moment.
Its dressier and I have my dressy grail coming soon!!!

It really is a tough choice.
The new White and Gray dials on the ROO are simply stunning!
My grail ROO would be the 18K RG Rubberclad that is just AMAZING!

AP did announce a 37 mm ROO BUT I really think that going to be
thought of as a womans watch by most watch people and will likely
have a poor resale value (just my 2 cents)

Yeah, i think we have similar tastes, i love the ROO themes and newer ones, not a great fan of the Limited Editions as they're a bit over the top. Unfortunately like you i have a skinny wrist and the ROO is just too big, i moved down from Panerai because it was too much watch for my wrist and the ROO is too much as well.

The 37mm ROO is a bit of a head scratcher for me, the ladies ROO is 40mm, it is a cross between the ROO and ROC, but with the 37mm ROO coming in it is basically smaller than the ladies version, but is stated as being for men?

I think the ROC is a little dressier, but if you put it on a sporty strap then i'd think it would look good, especially the sportier dials such as the newer white with black sub-dials, it would definitely look like a sports watch then.

Edit to add a picture of the new ROC dial with a rubber strap, it does make it look sportier, the image is MichaelC off Timezone, if he's a member on here it would be nice to see some more like it as i think this dial does make the ROC look more of a sports watch than others.

CPTL · 14 February 2010, 01:52 AM

That watch is a stunner guys--without a doubt.

HL65 · 14 February 2010, 02:41 AM

Thanks Clogger!

AP RC 1.jpg

boa2 · 16 February 2010, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

The 37mm ROO is a bit of a head scratcher for me, the ladies ROO is 40mm, it is a cross between the ROO and ROC, but with the 37mm ROO coming in it is basically smaller than the ladies version, but is stated as being for men?

Hi Ryan,

Hope you're well.

Which ladies ROO is 40mm? All of those I know are 37mm.

Thanks!

argee1977 · 16 February 2010, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa2

Hi Ryan,

Hope you're well.

Which ladies ROO is 40mm? All of those I know are 37mm.

Thanks!

You are right Howard, i should have been saying it the other way around, i was hoping for a 40mm ROO myself, although to be fair i'm starting to doubt whether the ROO would be a problem on some smaller wrists after seeing a couple lately!

It's definitely a hard one to decide, 5 minutes in an AD might not be the best way to do it, but i have to say after speaking to a couple of fellow small wristed people the ROO Rubberclad might actually work

boa2 · 16 February 2010, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

You are right Howard, i should have been saying it the other way around, i was hoping for a 40mm ROO myself, although to be fair i'm starting to doubt whether the ROO would be a problem on some smaller wrists after seeing a couple lately!

It's definitely a hard one to decide, 5 minutes in an AD might not be the best way to do it, but i have to say after speaking to a couple of fellow small wristed people the ROO Rubberclad might actually work

Awesome...I hope so!

argee1977 · 16 February 2010, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa2

Awesome...I hope so!

It's the thing that gets me most about this watch malarky, a year ago i hated the look and design of the Rubberclad, i thought it was just daft having a rubber coated bezel, but slowly but surely they grow on you, those watches that never even make your top ten list suddenly fill it in later years

It was the same thing with the PAM 140, i thought gold watches were too bling, but then i found myself in an AD, handing over my bank card and walking out in a trance with a new watch!

boa2 · 16 February 2010, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

It's the thing that gets me most about this watch malarky, a year ago i hated the look and design of the Rubberclad, i thought it was just daft having a rubber coated bezel, but slowly but surely they grow on you, those watches that never even make your top ten list suddenly fill it in later years

It was the same thing with the PAM 140, i thought gold watches were too bling, but then i found myself in an AD, handing over my bank card and walking out in a trance with a new watch!

Isn't that the truth? You know, every time I think about the Rubberclad, I'm not sure it's 100% for me. But then I put it on my wrist, and am absolutely blown away.

I always say, I enjoy the surprises the most.

mailman · 16 February 2010, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

My guess is maybe 40% off new--most likely 35% off of new if you want a real nice LNIB G series or even an F. If getting the Rubber clad--harder to find--still strong in secondary market--13k going rate--14k-14,500k for BNIB. They are not far off of new price--yet below the 20,500 retail!! Here is a shot of my AP ROO Rubberclad--it is a G series from 2/10--BNIB from AD. It is my 3rd AP--highly recommend them-my favorite watch hands down!!

Attachment 115106

WOW!!!!!

I've seen and tried on the white dial version of that watch and it is the most comfortable thing I've ever had on my wrist

I'm not much of a chrono guy but that one is smokin hot

Clogger · 16 February 2010, 08:33 PM

Thanks again for the input guys, much appreciated

argee1977 · 16 February 2010, 09:45 PM

Hope we see an update sometime this year on what you choose, it's always nice seeing what happened next

HL65 · 17 February 2010, 12:49 PM

Thanks Mailman!! Love it--one of my favorites!

Submarino · 22 February 2010, 12:32 PM

This watch is the one that started the Offshore phenomenon. I love this model more than any other out there. Classic, sporty, sturdy and timeless. In my opinion it will never look dated. Ref. 25721ST.00.1000ST.01

tudorwatches · 22 February 2010, 09:09 PM

For AP watches this is a very good guy. Bought from him myself and he is 100% trustable. Well known on the dutch and german rolex forum:

http://www.kroonwatches.com/?pagina=1 (if the roc or roo you are looking for, i'll bet he can get his hand on it.. for the best price on the net..)

Best regards, Michiel

tudorwatches · 22 February 2010, 09:11 PM

Very nice !!

unknown · 22 February 2010, 11:16 PM

a few pictures I once took

For more detailled pictures (close ups) just click the link in my signature

my favorite

and 2 offshores from friends

argee1977 · 22 February 2010, 11:58 PM

The Safari is just a work of art, if i had the cash i'd get one of those and a white dialed rubberclad, unfortunately i'm skint

Spencer · 23 February 2010, 10:43 AM

My ROO and I love it!

PM me for a great AD in the U.S.

NSXsan · 23 February 2010, 11:18 AM

My ROO VOLCANO with aftermarket CF strap / NAVY

and if you need any help with AP please PM me, I can get you any model you like . . .

11 February 2010, 06:40 PM	#1
Clogger Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SE Asia Watch: SS Sub Date Posts: 431	AP ROC and ROO pics/advice please. Allright guys, I am seriously considering either a ROC or ROO as my next purchase if after Basel nothing from Rolex takes my fancy. I am leaning towards a ROC as I feel it will wear a little better for me due to size. I will be buying pre owned, just checked Blowers in UK and they always have a few in stock, is there anywhere else in the UK that is a reliable source? Also any AD's in the Asia area that may offer a good discount? What in general is a good price pre owned. Generally seems to 40%-50% from new? I have searched the board but would like to see some more wrist shots if possible. Thanks for any advice guys.

12 February 2010, 04:10 AM	#3
scottschoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CA Posts: 3,295	Don't forget to check out the new releases from SIHH; you may want to wait - check out purists and TZ for more info. 50% ROOs seems a bit ambitious, even for used models. __________________ __________________

12 February 2010, 05:32 AM	#4
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	The ROC is a beauty and i can vouch for Blowers, i've used them a couple of times and they are regarded as about the best dealer in the UK for this sort of thing. There is also www.watches.co.uk who are another huge company, but i don't think they have any ROC's in stock. I know with the exchange rate the UK is a good place to buy just now, but i do see some ROC's going for good prices in the US, it might be worth having a look there or even in the mainland EU as well just to see what the best price is. Anyway, i hope you get something soon, either the ROC or ROO are nice, although the ROO is a bit bigger and i found it was too big for me unfortunately, but the ROC is perfect for me, especially now i have it on the strap. __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

12 February 2010, 06:37 AM	#5
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Oh yeah, wrist shot to show size, my wrist is about 6.5" so you can see a ROC fits well, the ROO is just a little on the large side, i moved down from a Panerai 233 and 177 to this as they were just a bit uncomfortable due to the size and they dug into my hand, as you can see by the mark left! __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

12 February 2010, 10:09 PM	#7
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,991	My guess is maybe 40% off new--most likely 35% off of new if you want a real nice LNIB G series or even an F. If getting the Rubber clad--harder to find--still strong in secondary market--13k going rate--14k-14,500k for BNIB. They are not far off of new price--yet below the 20,500 retail!! Here is a shot of my AP ROO Rubberclad--it is a G series from 2/10--BNIB from AD. It is my 3rd AP--highly recommend them-my favorite watch hands down!! AP RC 1.jpg __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

11 February 2010, 11:58 PM	#2
chas13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: uk Watch: 116500 bk Posts: 94	Hello mate. When I bought my ROO Ruberclad I used http://carrdiamonds.com/ very knowledgeable guy and a good deal. They have a shop by Liverpool st station so its easy to pop in have a look at the watches . They only have offshores in stock but they can order in more or less anything you want.

12 February 2010, 05:29 PM	#6
Clogger Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SE Asia Watch: SS Sub Date Posts: 431	Thanks for the info guys. Argee, I concur I have used Blowers as well and found them to be excellent. I will wait until after basel and then make a decesion.

13 February 2010, 05:07 AM	#8
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Unfortunately in the UK you won't get deep discounts like that, the main AD's we have for AP are all either in London or quite high end dealers, which tends to mean lower discounts. If you've used Blowers before then you know that they're pretty good and knowledgeable as well as being very quick with any deals, i have seen both their AP ROC's that they have in stock and have to say i prefer the newer 26300ST they have over the older 25860 with the basic white dial, but i do think the price is a little steep. __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

13 February 2010, 03:06 PM	#10
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	I want a ROO but at 6.8 in wrists I am just still unsure and yes I have tried them on. I also like the RO BUT it will not fill my wants at the moment. Its dressier and I have my dressy grail coming soon!!! It really is a tough choice. The new White and Gray dials on the ROO are simply stunning! My grail ROO would be the 18K RG Rubberclad that is just AMAZING! AP did announce a 37 mm ROO BUT I really think that going to be thought of as a womans watch by most watch people and will likely have a poor resale value (just my 2 cents) __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

14 February 2010, 01:52 AM	#13
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	That watch is a stunner guys--without a doubt. __________________ 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial

14 February 2010, 02:41 AM	#14
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,991	Thanks Clogger! AP RC 1.jpg __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

16 February 2010, 08:33 PM	#21
Clogger Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SE Asia Watch: SS Sub Date Posts: 431	Thanks again for the input guys, much appreciated

16 February 2010, 09:45 PM	#22
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Hope we see an update sometime this year on what you choose, it's always nice seeing what happened next __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

17 February 2010, 12:49 PM	#23
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,991	Thanks Mailman!! Love it--one of my favorites! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

22 February 2010, 09:09 PM	#25
tudorwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Suisse Posts: 411	For AP watches this is a very good guy. Bought from him myself and he is 100% trustable. Well known on the dutch and german rolex forum: http://www.kroonwatches.com/?pagina=1 (if the roc or roo you are looking for, i'll bet he can get his hand on it.. for the best price on the net..) Best regards, Michiel

22 February 2010, 09:11 PM	#26
tudorwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Suisse Posts: 411	Very nice !!

22 February 2010, 11:16 PM	#27
unknown "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 2,867	a few pictures I once took For more detailled pictures (close ups) just click the link in my signature my favorite and 2 offshores from friends __________________ Instagram : @collectible_watches

22 February 2010, 11:58 PM	#28
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	The Safari is just a work of art, if i had the cash i'd get one of those and a white dialed rubberclad, unfortunately i'm skint __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

23 February 2010, 10:43 AM	#29
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	My ROO and I love it! PM me for a great AD in the U.S. __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

23 February 2010, 11:18 AM	#30
NSXsan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 134	My ROO VOLCANO with aftermarket CF strap / NAVY and if you need any help with AP please PM me, I can get you any model you like . . .

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