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RRGHOST1 · 5 March 2010, 07:33 AM

At my AD today, and asked him if he had heard anything about any new models that maybe coming out after Basel 2010. He said, the ceramic Sub is a cert, but he told me to buy a Sub LV as it was going out of production, and they can't make green ceramic. Or he said, buy an Explorer I or Explorer II, as they will not be made either. I said, does that mean they are going to make a bigger Explorer I or upgrade the Explorer II, he said he didn't know. I said i wanted a new GMT Pepsi ceramic but i commented and said, "If they can't make the green bezel for the new Sub then there is not much chance of a new Pepsi GMT. Basel 2010 cant come quickly enough,its so frustrating not knowing !

mactrack · 5 March 2010, 07:38 AM

But they can make a Blue ceramic bezel for the WG/TT Sub???

Tools · 5 March 2010, 07:39 AM

Just a couple of more weeks....

I don't see any reason at all why they wouldn't come out with a green ceramic........ I doubt that we will see any two color ceramics though... but here too, they could pin two halves together if they really wanted to go that route........

I'd be surprised to see the Explorer in 40mm.... not sure where that rumor started from.......

mactrack · 5 March 2010, 07:42 AM

I'm not buying the Explorer I update rumour either but one for the II is definitely on the cards. Do people think that Rolex would give us two new SS sport watches in the same year or leave the Explorer II until next year? I really want a white dialled ceramic Explorer II.

RRGHOST1 · 5 March 2010, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mactrack

But they can make a Blue ceramic bezel for the WG/TT Sub???

Your right, as i had forgoten about that, so all they have to do now, is make red ceramic and join it up somehow to the blue and Wow its a Pepsi. Jobs a gooden!

RLXSTR · 5 March 2010, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Just a couple of more weeks....

I don't see any reason at all why they wouldn't come out with a green ceramic........ I doubt that we will see any two color ceramics though... but here too, they could pin two halves together if they really wanted to go that route........

I'd be surprised to see the Explorer in 40mm.... not sure where that rumor started from.......

If it's any indication of the smurf blue bezel...I can only hope it's not a lime green ceramic bezel...

JBat · 5 March 2010, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mactrack

But they can make a Blue ceramic bezel for the WG/TT Sub???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Just a couple of more weeks....

I don't see any reason at all why they wouldn't come out with a green ceramic........ I doubt that we will see any two color ceramics though... but here too, they could pin two halves together if they really wanted to go that route........

I'd be surprised to see the Explorer in 40mm.... not sure where that rumor started from.......

Exactly. If they can make blue or black, for that matter, why not green?

Tools · 5 March 2010, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mactrack

I'm not buying the Explorer I update rumour either but one for the II is definitely on the cards. Do people think that Rolex would give us two new SS sport watches in the same year or leave the Explorer II until next year? I really want a white dialled ceramic Explorer II.

Any change for the Explorer II would likely only be a new bracelet and the block case.. All the ceramics are inserts and the Exp II does not use an insert..

They might never go to a block case with this model though (I hope)... But it and the Yachtmaster are the only models that are still not 11xxxx referenced.

Art 1 · 5 March 2010, 08:09 AM

I have heard the exact same thing.

wcl884 · 5 March 2010, 08:10 AM

If you look at Blancpain's website or talk to dealers, samples of clear and colored ceramics have been created. Unfortunately, they are all solid color or translucent. I believe the best Rolex can do now is to make a clear ceramic bezel with multi-colored inlays.

hennabav · 5 March 2010, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

I doubt that we will see any two color ceramics though... but here too, they could pin two halves together if they really wanted to go that route

I highly doubt they will be pinning any 2 halves together. It will look kind of silly or not very solid by doing so. Kind of incomplete/unprofessional as well. I think it will be a while until we see the next ceramic pepsi/coke bezels for the GMT. For now, I guess we need to stick with the non-ceramic if we want those bezels unless you go for one of the precious stone bezels or aftermarket.

karmatp · 5 March 2010, 08:47 AM

If the Explorer II is discontinued like the rumors are saying, the hype must get started for the Explorer II's w/ 3186. Come on guys, they are much rarer than the GMT's, probaby in the thousands, unlike the GMT's w/ 3186 in the tens of thousands.

GerardoG · 5 March 2010, 08:50 AM

Well, if I have learned something is that we can just wonder.....and stick to our computers as Basel starts!

maxxor · 5 March 2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexplorer2

At my AD today, and asked him if he had heard anything about any new models that maybe coming out after Basel 2010. He said, the ceramic Sub is a cert, but he told me to buy a Sub LV as it was going out of production, and they can't make green ceramic. Or he said, buy an Explorer I or Explorer II, as they will not be made either. I said, does that mean they are going to make a bigger Explorer I or upgrade the Explorer II, he said he didn't know. I said i wanted a new GMT Pepsi ceramic but i commented and said, "If they can't make the green bezel for the new Sub then there is not much chance of a new Pepsi GMT. Basel 2010 cant come quickly enough,its so frustrating not knowing !

no doubt about it LV is done.....highly doubt they make a green ceramic....pointless.....the LV is already a like it or hate it proposition.....i think all will be dissapointed to find out the only sub coming about is the black ceramic.....rolex will be concentrating on other models for sure......

as for basel 2011......who knows....

just my opinion of course....so be nice!

sakuraba · 5 March 2010, 10:46 AM

Seriously doubt htey'll make an LV. Right now the big differences are the maxi dial and gren bezel which a lot change to black. If the new Sub has the maxi dial, any bezel swap would make an LV out of any Sub. Now if they made a green dial...

Welshwatchman · 5 March 2010, 11:31 AM

You can't but admire the dealer's selling techniques.

"Please buy three Rolex watches now or you'll regret it later".

A.B.C

snowbird · 5 March 2010, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

You can't but admire the dealer's selling techniques.

"Please buy three Rolex watches now or you'll regret it later".

A.B.C

Exactly. I have no idea what will come out of Basel, but creating the perception of scarcity is a consistent part of the Rolex selling approach.

sevykor · 5 March 2010, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

You can't but admire the dealer's selling techniques.

"Please buy three Rolex watches now or you'll regret it later".

My thoughts exactly!

Prince Tudor · 5 March 2010, 12:56 PM

I have to agree with the above. There is a lot of sellers hype out there right now.
In addition, I would not be surprised if the LV goes the way of the dodo.
As for the the EXPII there will probably be some changes.
My guess is most of the changes will be on Rolex's bling-bling side. You know....more jewelled up GMTII's and Daytonas with animal print straps.

STEELINOX · 5 March 2010, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Any change for the Explorer II would likely only be a new bracelet and the block case.. All the ceramics are inserts and the Exp II does not use an insert..

They might never go to a block case with this model though (I hope)... But it and the Yachtmaster are the only models that are still not 11xxxx referenced.

Its okay Larry, you can say, "Supercase" !
Sounds "ROLEX correct"

sakuraba · 5 March 2010, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

Its okay Larry, you can say, "Supercase" !
Sounds "ROLEX correct"

We'd have to pay you some royalty for that, Sink!

Singslinger · 5 March 2010, 06:13 PM

Plenty of speculation, especially surrounding the LV, Explorers and a date Daytona - but no one knows for sure.

All will be revealed in a couple of weeks' time - and even then, I'm sure speculation will continue...after all, if not this year, then maybe next year, or if not, then the next...

presario · 5 March 2010, 07:05 PM

Highly doubt the LV for the new ceramic sub. At least not for a couple of years IMO. I agree with Larry. Supercase EXP II with fixed metal bezel, trip lock, solid center links (non polished), with new clasp.

bardm · 5 March 2010, 08:22 PM

I agree. I think the LV is gone.

But I think it's time to do something about the YM. I also think the Daytona is ready for an update. To me it seems it's not as popular as it used to be so my guess is Rolex will give it a facelift to regain it's staus: Bigger case, possibly a date and maybe a ceramic bessel.

lwrm23 · 5 March 2010, 09:32 PM

I hope they update the YM... Give it the updated clasp and ill buy it in a second...

Boadicea · 5 March 2010, 11:00 PM

I doubt they would dicsontinue any of the explorers, there is a reason why they have been around for so long. On the other hand, an update for the exp2 might be on the cards, but I also doubt it as they have only just started rolling out the 3186 versions. Why bother when you're updating it later anyway? Exp1 has not really changed much since it first came out, they would be playing with fire if they made any big changes to that. Perhaps just movement updates? Or perhaps Para springs all round?

5 March 2010, 07:33 AM	#1
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,993	Spoke to my AD today... At my AD today, and asked him if he had heard anything about any new models that maybe coming out after Basel 2010. He said, the ceramic Sub is a cert, but he told me to buy a Sub LV as it was going out of production, and they can't make green ceramic. Or he said, buy an Explorer I or Explorer II, as they will not be made either. I said, does that mean they are going to make a bigger Explorer I or upgrade the Explorer II, he said he didn't know. I said i wanted a new GMT Pepsi ceramic but i commented and said, "If they can't make the green bezel for the new Sub then there is not much chance of a new Pepsi GMT. Basel 2010 cant come quickly enough,its so frustrating not knowing !

5 March 2010, 07:39 AM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,495	Just a couple of more weeks.... I don't see any reason at all why they wouldn't come out with a green ceramic........ I doubt that we will see any two color ceramics though... but here too, they could pin two halves together if they really wanted to go that route........ I'd be surprised to see the Explorer in 40mm.... not sure where that rumor started from....... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

5 March 2010, 08:47 AM	#12
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	If the Explorer II is discontinued like the rumors are saying, the hype must get started for the Explorer II's w/ 3186. Come on guys, they are much rarer than the GMT's, probaby in the thousands, unlike the GMT's w/ 3186 in the tens of thousands. __________________ My grails:

5 March 2010, 10:46 AM	#15
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	Seriously doubt htey'll make an LV. Right now the big differences are the maxi dial and gren bezel which a lot change to black. If the new Sub has the maxi dial, any bezel swap would make an LV out of any Sub. Now if they made a green dial... __________________ F 14000 AirKing black F 16710 GMT Pepsi F 16570 Explorer II white T 16600 SD D 16610 LV "fine quality is remembered long after the pain of spending money" -Steve Mulholland

5 March 2010, 11:31 AM	#16
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	You can't but admire the dealer's selling techniques. "Please buy three Rolex watches now or you'll regret it later". A.B.C __________________ ..33

5 March 2010, 07:38 AM	#2
mactrack "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London, UK Watch: 116710LN Posts: 348	But they can make a Blue ceramic bezel for the WG/TT Sub???

5 March 2010, 07:42 AM	#4
mactrack "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London, UK Watch: 116710LN Posts: 348	I'm not buying the Explorer I update rumour either but one for the II is definitely on the cards. Do people think that Rolex would give us two new SS sport watches in the same year or leave the Explorer II until next year? I really want a white dialled ceramic Explorer II.

5 March 2010, 08:09 AM	#9
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	I have heard the exact same thing.

5 March 2010, 08:10 AM	#10
wcl884 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 353	If you look at Blancpain's website or talk to dealers, samples of clear and colored ceramics have been created. Unfortunately, they are all solid color or translucent. I believe the best Rolex can do now is to make a clear ceramic bezel with multi-colored inlays.

5 March 2010, 08:50 AM	#13
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Well, if I have learned something is that we can just wonder.....and stick to our computers as Basel starts!

5 March 2010, 12:56 PM	#19
Prince Tudor "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Lucas Location: Canada Watch: Rolex and Tudor Posts: 726	I have to agree with the above. There is a lot of sellers hype out there right now. In addition, I would not be surprised if the LV goes the way of the dodo. As for the the EXPII there will probably be some changes. My guess is most of the changes will be on Rolex's bling-bling side. You know....more jewelled up GMTII's and Daytonas with animal print straps. __________________

5 March 2010, 06:13 PM	#22
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	Plenty of speculation, especially surrounding the LV, Explorers and a date Daytona - but no one knows for sure. All will be revealed in a couple of weeks' time - and even then, I'm sure speculation will continue...after all, if not this year, then maybe next year, or if not, then the next...

5 March 2010, 07:05 PM	#23
presario "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Andrew Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,428	Highly doubt the LV for the new ceramic sub. At least not for a couple of years IMO. I agree with Larry. Supercase EXP II with fixed metal bezel, trip lock, solid center links (non polished), with new clasp. __________________

5 March 2010, 08:22 PM	#24
bardm "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Bård Location: Oslo - Norway Watch: None Posts: 1,014	I agree. I think the LV is gone. But I think it's time to do something about the YM. I also think the Daytona is ready for an update. To me it seems it's not as popular as it used to be so my guess is Rolex will give it a facelift to regain it's staus: Bigger case, possibly a date and maybe a ceramic bessel. __________________ Bård

5 March 2010, 09:32 PM	#25
lwrm23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Craig Location: Florida Watch: SubC Posts: 140	I hope they update the YM... Give it the updated clasp and ill buy it in a second...

5 March 2010, 11:00 PM	#26
Boadicea Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Daniel Location: UK Posts: 520	I doubt they would dicsontinue any of the explorers, there is a reason why they have been around for so long. On the other hand, an update for the exp2 might be on the cards, but I also doubt it as they have only just started rolling out the 3186 versions. Why bother when you're updating it later anyway? Exp1 has not really changed much since it first came out, they would be playing with fire if they made any big changes to that. Perhaps just movement updates? Or perhaps Para springs all round?

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