Vintage Rolex 5513 check maxi dial

[Undercoverone]

hi, happen to saw this watch. owner say everything is original,any expert here could help see the watch if it is true?Is the lug still consider thick? or over polish? thanks

[Watchcraze007]

I'm no expert. Loved the yellowed hour marks. I want it ;)

[Kingair]

I'me not the expert either but from what you posted the luggs seem ok

Bracelet ?

The dial . . . experts gives us some help

HAGOne

[Vincent65]

looks good to me (non-expert) - lugs are fine! Nice patina and dial and insert, too.

[Brisman]

I'm no expert but I thought 6.7 Mil were Maxi Dial III which this isn't.

The watch looks generally right so I'm interested to see what the experts say and learn.

[Warnsboy]

Originally Posted by Brisman

I'm no expert but I thought 6.7 Mil were Maxi Dial III which this isn't.

The watch looks generally right so I'm interested to see what the experts say and learn.

X2.....looks like an early 70's dial.

[michel33]

Should have the word "Submariner" above the 660ft/200m depth rating, so it's an earlier dial from the 70's.

[Kiwinz]

When the dial changed to feet first in the early 70's it stayed that way for a while, around 1982 it changed to SUBMARINER being above the depth rating.

On this one I like the patina, and must be according to serial no. close to the changeover
being around early 80's.

[jluger]

So much to learn...

But that is a neat looking watch. As a vintage fan, right up my alley.

[GeoGio Greece]

These are unpolished so you can see the lugs.

[jedly1]

Dial is from an early 70's watch.

Sub on top started with mk2 maxi circa 1978.

[Beaumont Miller II]

Nice watch...NOT a Maxi. Thanks Jed, please allow me to elaborate. These dials are an interest to me as there are so many in a relatively short period of time.

The serial on the case is a 6.7 mil which would likely correspond to a MK III maxi or MK IV maxi. The dial however is one that is seen in the 70's prior to the Maxi era. That dial, I have learned in the past from and excellent post by Jed https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...light=Precomex, is a serif/non serif dial...looks to be a serif one if my eyes aren't failing me.

Many people post 5513's and want to know if it is a Maxi dial. The quick easiest way to determine if it is a Maxi dial is to look at the coronet. This may sound counterintuitive, but I will explain in a second. The two types of dials that preceded the Maxi dials were the serif/non serif dials and the "precomex" dials, called this because the dial had features in common with many Comex dials. These dials featured coronets that were kind of fat and especially with respect to the "precomex" dial, odd looking. In contrast to the fatter coronet of the serif/non serif dials and "precomex" dials, the Maxi dials all feature a neater taller coronet. Many look at the lume plots to determine if it is a Maxi dial. The problem with this is the "precomex" dial typically has lume plots that are bigger than the serif/non serif dials that preceded them, leading some to incorrectly think that it is a Maxi dial. I have seen some refer to the "precomex" dial as a Maxi 0 because of the large lume plots, but this never caught on. I realize that the image of a "neater taller" coronet is a bit vague so I have included pics of my Mk III and IV Maxi's to show what I mean. Please compare them to the coronet at the top of this thread and you can see what I mean. Oh by the way George's Mk V Maxi, 2 posts above, is the nicest example of a Mk V that I have seen. Well done George

[Elliot1957]

looks like a serif to me. maybee 1975-77.

[michel33]

The one and only true maxi dial is the Mark I anyway, the one that has the biggest plots ever made, that also feature on the 5517 Maxi dial. And that was manufactured by the same dial maker, Lemrich.

[Beaumont Miller II]

Originally Posted by michel33

The one and only true maxi dial is the Mark I anyway, the one that has the biggest plots ever made, that also feature on the 5517 Maxi dial. And that was manufactured by the same dial maker, Lemrich.

You're educating me here, but I thought the Mk III Maxi dial with the lume plots touching the minute marks on the outside of the dial had the largest plots ever made.

[Brisman]

Originally Posted by michel33

The one and only true maxi dial is the Mark I anyway, the one that has the biggest plots ever made, that also feature on the 5517 Maxi dial. And that was manufactured by the same dial maker, Lemrich.

I was always under the impression that Maxi Dial Mark III had the biggest lume plots, the "Double Red Sea Dweller" site also claims this.

Can anybody else comment on this. Thanks

[michel33]

The largest lume plots Rolex ever made are on the Maxi Mark I dial and when Rolex re-introduced the Maxi lume plots on the Yacht Master, than on the LV Sub and now on every new sport model , one can notice that they are exactly the same size than those the Maxi I featured.

Just try to put a Maxi Mark III beside a new ceramic Sub or Gmt and you will realize the Mark III markers are far from being the same size!!!

I already compared the markers' size between a Mark I and a Mark III when I had both in hands, the Mark I markers are bigger, not doubt about it. Too bad I did not take a pic....

But for those who doubt, just try the same test: Just compare the new Ceramic Sub/Ceramic Gmt or the discontinued LV Sub markers' size beside the Lollypop Mark III ones, it will be very explicit. Not the same size at all, unlike the Maxi Mark I, it is undeniable.
And this is why, imho (but who cares, except for us LOL) only the Maxi Mark I dial deserves the "Maxi dial" nickname.






Maxi dial Mark I 5513 beside the new GMT and the LV:

[Pete17]

Maxi is an over used term IMHO these days.
I gotta agree with Michel on this one.

Heaven forbid if we ever designate a model by it's original name.

[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by Pete17

Maxi is an over used term IMHO these days.
I gotta agree with Michel on this one.

Heaven forbid if we ever designate a model by it's original name.

Quite agree. Whoever the hell came up with 'rail' dial!? A slight, exceptionally short, off-centre, not-straight - but admittedly noticeable - space in the text doth not a rail make.

[Pete17]

LOL That said, I have been guilty of paying outrageous sums for models with the uber rare and exotic red paint....

[Vincent65]

same here!