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john_coburg · 22 August 2014, 07:07 AM

Dear all,
Still on the look out for a decent 5513 at a sensible price...what are people's opinions on this little fellow, purporting to have a 1.7xx serial number, dating from '65-'66, but to have been "cased up in '67", hence the caseback dating. Did this even ever happen?
It looks like the lume is a little broken in parts, and rubbed off in others, but I can't quite tell if it's a gilt dial or not...it would be very (very) late if so, from what I've been led to believe, but it looks like it. The serial number would be very helpful... i'm try to procure a picture. It clearly has a replaced triplock crown in any case.
I could have it, I believe, without a bracelet, for £4k ($6.5k).
Would anyone have opinions on it's merit outright, and at that price?
Many thanks,
John

Porsche958 · 22 August 2014, 07:09 AM

I don't believe it is, looks very similar to the white print on my '68 5513.

Presa canary · 22 August 2014, 07:12 AM

It does not appear to be gilt to me. Replacement pearl, not a big deal. Insert and hands look right. Can't tell with these pics lug condition. 6.5 is high. Shave a g off that being that everything checks out

redfred · 22 August 2014, 07:27 AM

Serial no,. dates it to 1967 so definitely not gilt, I think there are better examples around.

JerimiahLee · 22 August 2014, 07:30 AM

Not a gilt dial, but a nice matte example if you can get it for the right price. The price you were offered seems a bit high for a head only.

Beaumont Miller II · 22 August 2014, 07:55 AM

Like above...
It's a meters first matte dial. The white paint underneath and surrounding each tritium hour plot has me scratching my head.

Porsche958 · 22 August 2014, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Beaumont Miller II

Like above...

It's a meters first matte dial. The white paint underneath and surrounding each tritium hour plot has me scratching my head.

Was wondering the same actually..

Michael M. · 22 August 2014, 08:01 AM

Pictures are poor, however the dial looks to have been relumed, thus being able to see the white paint underneath the lume. Also, the lume texture and placement is not very typical of the period.

JerimiahLee · 22 August 2014, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Beaumont Miller II

Like above...
It's a meters first matte dial. The white paint underneath and surrounding each tritium hour plot has me scratching my head.

Was going to mention the plots too, but didn't want to go too far down the rabbit hole. Odd indeed.

springer · 22 August 2014, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaumont Miller II

Like above...
It's a meters first matte dial. The white paint underneath and surrounding each tritium hour plot has me scratching my head.

No need to scratch your head J. I agree!

Beaumont Miller II · 22 August 2014, 08:19 AM

I was being polite.

For sure when you see that on a matte dial, it is a huge red flag.

1675-David · 22 August 2014, 05:58 PM

Dial looks like it's been in and out out of that case a few times!! Print looks good, possible re-lume? A lot of meat removed from the front of the lugs. Personally I'd keep looking

Xantiagib · 22 August 2014, 06:03 PM

I think £3 - 3.5K is a more realistic price head only, but the lume has me worried

redfred · 22 August 2014, 07:43 PM

Must admit I was going to have a bid on this till I noticed the lume and the minute markers at 10 min.

22 August 2014, 07:09 AM	#2
Porsche958 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Joel Location: Atlanta, Ga Watch: 1655 Posts: 866	I don't believe it is, looks very similar to the white print on my '68 5513. __________________ "I couldn't find the sports car of my dreams, so I built it myself." - Ferdinand Porsche

22 August 2014, 07:55 AM	#6
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	Like above... It's a meters first matte dial. The white paint underneath and surrounding each tritium hour plot has me scratching my head. __________________

22 August 2014, 08:19 AM	#11
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	I was being polite. For sure when you see that on a matte dial, it is a huge red flag. __________________

22 August 2014, 07:12 AM	#3
Presa canary "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Justin Location: Pa Watch: Explorer ii Posts: 3,152	It does not appear to be gilt to me. Replacement pearl, not a big deal. Insert and hands look right. Can't tell with these pics lug condition. 6.5 is high. Shave a g off that being that everything checks out

22 August 2014, 07:27 AM	#4
redfred "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: newcastle Posts: 342	Serial no,. dates it to 1967 so definitely not gilt, I think there are better examples around.

22 August 2014, 07:30 AM	#5
JerimiahLee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Jerimiah Location: NYC Watch: 5513 Meters 1st Posts: 669	Not a gilt dial, but a nice matte example if you can get it for the right price. The price you were offered seems a bit high for a head only.

22 August 2014, 08:01 AM	#8
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Pictures are poor, however the dial looks to have been relumed, thus being able to see the white paint underneath the lume. Also, the lume texture and placement is not very typical of the period.

22 August 2014, 05:58 PM	#12
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,060	Dial looks like it's been in and out out of that case a few times!! Print looks good, possible re-lume? A lot of meat removed from the front of the lugs. Personally I'd keep looking

22 August 2014, 06:03 PM	#13
Xantiagib "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Gibraltar Posts: 203	I think £3 - 3.5K is a more realistic price head only, but the lume has me worried

22 August 2014, 07:43 PM	#14
redfred "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: newcastle Posts: 342	Must admit I was going to have a bid on this till I noticed the lume and the minute markers at 10 min.

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