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toph · 7 April 2008, 10:53 PM

Hi, im sure this subject will have been covered before. Is this an actual Bond watch or just a 70's Sub. I thought the actual bond watch was only made circa the late 50's early sixties

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rolex-5513-sub...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks

padi56 · 7 April 2008, 11:05 PM

No its not just a 5513 the true Bond sub was without crown guards and had a large brevet crown. Have a look at this old in-from link.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ght=james+bond

toph · 7 April 2008, 11:15 PM

WOW just read your previous post/book on the bond watches- great reading thanks.

So it is a latter bond watch BUT NOT the original one used by Sean Connery.

padi56 · 7 April 2008, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toph

WOW just read your previous post/book on the bond watches- great reading thanks.

So it is a latter bond watch BUT NOT the original one used by Sean Connery.

Well in todays market most dealers try to make out that all vintage Subs are Bond subs good for selling.While it is true in later movies like On Her Majesty's Secret Service, George Lazenby has a Rolex Submariner 5513 and later Roger More used the 5513. But the real valuable Bond subs are the ones without crown guards thick case and large brevet crowns.In todays market same for the Paul Newman Daytona they call 6263/5 Paul Newman's but in reality they are not true Paul Newman's.But it looks like a good example of the 5513 with all the original bits as well,and a 660ft / 200m dial that indicates it was made for the European market.

Scarface · 7 April 2008, 11:40 PM

Definitely not - just look the crown guards.
But it is a beautiful vintage Sub - if it is as described.

toph · 7 April 2008, 11:45 PM

So this is an original bond watch. This has a replacement dial from the 70's- how much is this of detrement to the value?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ksid=p3907.m29

dkpw · 7 April 2008, 11:52 PM

Nice looking piece - if genuine...

padi56 · 8 April 2008, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toph

So this is an original bond watch. This has a replacement dial from the 70's- how much is this of detrement to the value?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ksid=p3907.m29

Well the 6536 is a bit to early for any Bond watch the real first Connery Bond watch had a thick case and large Brevet crown.Now the 6536 model non chronometer movement just the word Submariner on dial and depth in gilt,production year 1955 to 1958 later 6536/1 with the chronmeter movement production 1957/61 again Submariner on dial depth in gilt but with official certified chronometer.Now the real bond sub most probably a 6538 and that looks like the dial type in the ebay watch.Well a all original would be the most valuable but dials did get changed in those days as part of a service or if damaged etc.As to value well thats down to what someones willing to pay for it but myself would pass.

Trurolexer · 8 April 2008, 01:13 AM

5513 is BEAUTIFUL watch!!!

a58ton · 14 April 2008, 03:47 AM

hello folks ,
this 5513 is mine , the same model was worn in live and let die( please see the part when M give bond "Moore the watch back " and in man with golden gun ( please google bond watchs and you get the model numbers ) the rolex that is listed is total 100 , the box that comes with the watch is the one that came with the rolex 5513 , please see my sellers feed back to see that i only sell true and just items , please email me thru email and happy to reply ref this ,

toph · 14 April 2008, 03:51 AM

It was me that asked the question- I just wanted to know if this was the original bond watch? I do not doubt its authenticity whatsoever, i just wanted to understand a bit more about the different models of bond watches and what was the original one used in Dr no.

a58ton · 14 April 2008, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toph

It was me that asked the question- I just wanted to know if this was the original bond watch? I do not doubt its authenticity whatsoever, i just wanted to understand a bit more about the different models of bond watches and what was the original one used in Dr no.

thanks for the reply,
there are many a folks out ther selling bond watches ,
yeah the sean versions are the best but ther are so many model numbers out there and there are many a folk who sell a look alike and trade on 007 to increase their wears,

SPACE-DWELLER · 14 April 2008, 04:22 AM

Great read, Peter!

a58ton · 14 April 2008, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Great read, Peter!

thanks pete

7 April 2008, 10:53 PM	#1
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	Is this an actual Bond watch? Hi, im sure this subject will have been covered before. Is this an actual Bond watch or just a 70's Sub. I thought the actual bond watch was only made circa the late 50's early sixties http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rolex-5513-sub...QQcmdZViewItem Thanks __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

7 April 2008, 11:05 PM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,022	No its not just a 5513 the true Bond sub was without crown guards and had a large brevet crown. Have a look at this old in-from link. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ght=james+bond __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

7 April 2008, 11:15 PM	#3
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	WOW just read your previous post/book on the bond watches- great reading thanks. So it is a latter bond watch BUT NOT the original one used by Sean Connery. __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

7 April 2008, 11:40 PM	#5
Scarface "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Minas Location: London UK Watch: Rolex , Omega Posts: 1,370	Definitely not - just look the crown guards. But it is a beautiful vintage Sub - if it is as described. __________________ *Rolex* Oyster Perpetual GMT-Master ll *Rolex* Oyster Perpetual Datejust *Omega* Seamaster Professional Chronograph

7 April 2008, 11:45 PM	#6
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	So this is an original bond watch. This has a replacement dial from the 70's- how much is this of detrement to the value? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ksid=p3907.m29 __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

7 April 2008, 11:52 PM	#7
dkpw "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: Scotland Watch: 16610 & 214270 Posts: 1,294	Nice looking piece - if genuine... __________________ Sub 16610, Explorer 214270, Ω Speedy Pro & many others. David

8 April 2008, 01:13 AM	#9
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	5513 is BEAUTIFUL watch!!!

14 April 2008, 03:47 AM	#10
a58ton "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: uk Posts: 6	hello folks , this 5513 is mine , the same model was worn in live and let die( please see the part when M give bond "Moore the watch back " and in man with golden gun ( please google bond watchs and you get the model numbers ) the rolex that is listed is total 100 , the box that comes with the watch is the one that came with the rolex 5513 , please see my sellers feed back to see that i only sell true and just items , please email me thru email and happy to reply ref this ,

14 April 2008, 03:51 AM	#11
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	It was me that asked the question- I just wanted to know if this was the original bond watch? I do not doubt its authenticity whatsoever, i just wanted to understand a bit more about the different models of bond watches and what was the original one used in Dr no. __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

14 April 2008, 04:22 AM	#13
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Great read, Peter! __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

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