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BillA · 13 April 2008, 11:52 PM

I have a Z7......, 16710, Pepsi
AD stamped in 11/07
No wiggle

Is there any way to tell if there is a 3186 movement in the watch without cracking the case back off and looking? That I do not want to do, have no interest in that. Watch runs dead on.

SPACE-DWELLER · 13 April 2008, 11:57 PM

Only way to tell is to have the caseback removed, I am afraid. But that's not a big deal for an AD watchmaker.

The GMT II 16710 that was reported to have the PB hairspring was an M-series, btw.

Sheldon made an article about it.

Click.

mike · 14 April 2008, 12:04 AM

You might. Opening the watch is the best way to tell. Personally I could wait for service before opening.

Tools · 14 April 2008, 01:12 AM

Good advice....

sheldonsmith · 14 April 2008, 02:50 AM

From the webpage... According to what is below, it might be a 3185.... Take to an AD and crack the back to find out... Looks like you just might be on the bubble...

wchiang discovered the following:

Commonly seen on older 16710 - Roman II
Z77XXXX - 3185 Rectangular II
Z96XXXX - 3186 Stick II
M23XXXX - 3186 Stick II
M23XXXX - 3186 Rectangular II
M30XXXX - 3186 Stick II
M30XXXX - 3186 Stick II
M36XXXX - 3186 Stick II
MXXXXXX - 3186 Stick II reported by Tahoeblue (above)

-Sheldon

acce1999 · 14 April 2008, 05:27 AM

Possibly, but as others say you need to pop it open for certainty. I've tried som Z6-serial Explorers without any wiggle of the 24 h hand, but serial number might not neccesary indicate production date as I have heard the numbers are random. Do you know when your specific watch was delivered to the AD? The later, the more certain of having a 3186.

Best,

A

BillA · 14 April 2008, 05:29 AM

Watch was bought from US AD 11/07, Z7xxx, serial number, but there is no way of telling when AD got watch and when manufactured by Rolex.
The watch keeps dead on time, no wiggle, I have no intention of cracking the back open. Was hoping there was another way, but that is OK, the suspense is fine with me.

f16570 · 14 April 2008, 06:17 AM

Enjoy the watch anyway.

sherwin · 14 April 2008, 10:45 AM

ill keep my eye out for that, i wonder how many in s'pore

13 April 2008, 11:52 PM	#1
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,869	Could I have the 3186 movement??? I have a Z7......, 16710, Pepsi AD stamped in 11/07 No wiggle Is there any way to tell if there is a 3186 movement in the watch without cracking the case back off and looking? That I do not want to do, have no interest in that. Watch runs dead on.

13 April 2008, 11:57 PM	#2
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Only way to tell is to have the caseback removed, I am afraid. But that's not a big deal for an AD watchmaker. The GMT II 16710 that was reported to have the PB hairspring was an M-series, btw. Sheldon made an article about it. Click. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

14 April 2008, 01:12 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,490	Good advice.... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

14 April 2008, 02:50 AM	#5
sheldonsmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Member 202♛ Posts: 1,815	From the webpage... According to what is below, it might be a 3185.... Take to an AD and crack the back to find out... Looks like you just might be on the bubble... wchiang discovered the following: Commonly seen on older 16710 - Roman II Z77XXXX - 3185 Rectangular II Z96XXXX - 3186 Stick II M23XXXX - 3186 Stick II M23XXXX - 3186 Rectangular II M30XXXX - 3186 Stick II M30XXXX - 3186 Stick II M36XXXX - 3186 Stick II MXXXXXX - 3186 Stick II reported by Tahoeblue (above) -Sheldon __________________

14 April 2008, 06:17 AM	#8
f16570 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: F Location: Scotland Watch: Exp II White Face Posts: 4,272	Enjoy the watch anyway. __________________ Why have what's new when you have what's best. f

14 April 2008, 12:04 AM	#3
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	You might. Opening the watch is the best way to tell. Personally I could wait for service before opening.

14 April 2008, 05:27 AM	#6
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	Possibly, but as others say you need to pop it open for certainty. I've tried som Z6-serial Explorers without any wiggle of the 24 h hand, but serial number might not neccesary indicate production date as I have heard the numbers are random. Do you know when your specific watch was delivered to the AD? The later, the more certain of having a 3186. Best, A

14 April 2008, 05:29 AM	#7
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,869	Watch was bought from US AD 11/07, Z7xxx, serial number, but there is no way of telling when AD got watch and when manufactured by Rolex. The watch keeps dead on time, no wiggle, I have no intention of cracking the back open. Was hoping there was another way, but that is OK, the suspense is fine with me.

14 April 2008, 10:45 AM	#9
sherwin "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth/Singapore Posts: 1,764	ill keep my eye out for that, i wonder how many in s'pore

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