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lapince · 25 December 2014, 05:01 AM

Hi all, I am considering in some time, probably before summer, changing my Daytona 116515 either for a 5726 on bracelet with grey dial or a 5167 in SS.

It would be number 3 with a 5712 and a Hulk.

Of course the price difference is very big between the 2, and I am wondering if a 5712 and 5726, both on bracelet, is not too similar.

If I didn't have the 5712 I would not hesitate 1 second and go for the 5726, the AC and moon phase make it perfect IMO as a useful complications Patek, whereas the 5712 is an original and "funky" dial watch with basically useless complications but I love it.

I tried the 5167 but in RG, stunning but can't justify the huge price difference just for RG.

I chose the 5712 over the 5711 because as my first and maybe only Patek I wanted complications, but as a 2nd I can see the 5167 fitting nicely in a trio, as I have decided for some time already that I won't have more than 3-4 pieces.

All the posts I read say how the Aquanaut is incredibly comfortable, which I can imagine as my 5712 is by far the most comfortable watch I have owned, I used to like big and heavy watches but since my 5712 I like thin and light watches.

I would love to have opinions and feedback of people who have the Aquanaut, SS or RG and a Nautilus on bracelet, 5711 or 5712, my preference for now goes for the 5167 but still have doubts, your opinions will be very useful, thanks in advance

autohorology · 25 December 2014, 05:07 AM

I have the 5167, don't wear it much anymore, but yes it's probably the most comfortable watch I've ever put on. I also have the 5726 but on strap. I always think PP and think strap and not bracelet, though the bracelet looks very nice on the Nautilus.

I like the AC complication and I'm a stickler for moonphases. The 5726 also wears very comfortably, speaking for the strap version. Tough choice and considering the price difference, I'd still go with the 5726 over the 5167. You're really just placing your money into another bank account when you buy PP, remember. So pay the extra difference if it doesn't hurt and buy another crazy cool Nautilus!

HL65 · 25 December 2014, 05:22 AM

I have 5167R and absolutely love it and it is by far my most comfortable watch! Oh and by the way I definitely could justify the RG after setting my eyes on it. Love Patek RG and the brown dial to die for!

kilyung · 25 December 2014, 06:09 AM

Get the 5167 imo

Fiery · 25 December 2014, 07:27 AM

I'd get the 5726 now, and later on trade the 5712 in towards a Royal Oak variant. One Patek, one Rolex, one AP would make a well-rounded collection.

Or, if you definitely want to keep the 5712, then go for the 5167 instead of the 5726.

martinr · 25 December 2014, 07:49 AM

5167 and with your 5712 and Hulk you will have a great trio.

zama · 25 December 2014, 07:56 AM

I would either keep your daytona or go for the 5167 and keep the other two.

incontrol · 25 December 2014, 08:01 AM

Get the 5167, you will have no regrets!

autohorology · 25 December 2014, 08:28 AM

It's hard for a lot of people to justify the 5167R because the actual gold weight is nowhere near commensurate with the premium paid, but if you can get it for high 20's and not the retail number it's actually less than a 10k difference. The justification is that the resale value is largely in the name, not in the metal content. Ken's piece always makes me want to rush to my AD and get one, but then something else sings to me.

7sins · 25 December 2014, 08:35 AM

5726 grey dial no contest! Keeping my fingers crossed a 5726R gets released next year!

autohorology · 25 December 2014, 08:39 AM

Very curious what MSRP will be if they do. They released a steel 5990 chrono travel time at 57k and if msrp is 42 on a steel 5726 (strap version) I'm guessing 60+k pricepoint for 5726r.

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Originally Posted by 7sins

5726 grey dial no contest! Keeping my fingers crossed a 5726R gets released next year!

belk7 · 25 December 2014, 09:03 AM

5167 would seem to round out your collection very nicely, and I wear mine very often. It is a great "do everything" watch. Are you going to miss having a chrono in the mix, though?

lapince · 25 December 2014, 09:05 AM

One thing is clear there is no way I am selling my 5712, I just love this watch, it's my first Patek and I really love it

lapince · 25 December 2014, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by belk7

5167 would seem to round out your collection very nicely, and I wear mine very often. It is a great "do everything" watch. Are you going to miss having a chrono in the mix, though?

Honestly? Absolutely not, I never use the chrono, used to be a big fan before but not anymore

belk7 · 25 December 2014, 09:17 AM

5167 sure seems like a great choice, then. Tropical strap makes it so very versatile. Would complement your Nautilus and Sub.

AK797 · 25 December 2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HL65

I have 5167R and absolutely love it and it is by far my most comfortable watch! Oh and by the way I definitely could justify the RG after setting my eyes on it. Love Patek RG and the brown dial to die for!

I agree with Ken, I know it costs more than the 5167 but you have to pay to play at this level and if you are giving up a RG watch you should replace it with one and if you are only going to have 3 watches, get the best 3 you can. Remember Arnaud you have not been happy with that Daytona for many months now even tho you have tried hard to like it so that tells you that you can't settle and get the second best one, it doesn't work for you.

GB-man · 25 December 2014, 01:54 PM

At this point we are all waiting to see what is coming next year from PP...but I would not want two nautilus in a 3 watch collection personally.

Therefore 5167 is a great choice. If you like brown then consider the RG of course

lapince · 25 December 2014, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

I agree with Ken, I know it costs more than the 5167 but you have to pay to play at this level and if you are giving up a RG watch you should replace it with one and if you are only going to have 3 watches, get the best 3 you can. Remember Arnaud you have not been happy with that Daytona for many months now even tho you have tried hard to like it so that tells you that you can't settle and get the second best one, it doesn't work for you.

You're right Neil, the Daytona is a beautiful watch, but as hard as I try I just can't get to love it so I don't wear it, that's why I'm thinking of changing it for another, it's true that the RG is a beauty, saw it in real but not the SS yet, anyways want to take my time for this one, didn't think long for the 5712, but 8 months after I'm sure that I made the right choice for my first PP as I absolutely love it.

lapince · 25 December 2014, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

At this point we are all waiting to see what is coming next year from PP...but I would not want two nautilus in a 3 watch collection personally.

Therefore 5167 is a great choice. If you like brown then consider the RG of course

Well Tom that's also what I'm thinking, as much as I love the 5726 there is no way my 5712 is going so 2 Nautilus in a trio is a little off. I have yet to see the SS, just saw the RG for now

goog53 · 25 December 2014, 05:11 PM

I would enjoy the heck out of your 5712 and Save Save Save and add a precious metal with complication(s) on a strap for your next piece. I would not add another sporty watch considering you have The Hulk and a 5712 which is sporty and elegant.

lapince · 26 December 2014, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

I would enjoy the heck out of your 5712 and Save Save Save and add a precious metal with complication(s) on a strap for your next piece. I would not add another sporty watch considering you have The Hulk and a 5712 which is sporty and elegant.

In fact Mike I am really not into dress watches, but into either sport watches or dressy sport watches like the 5712

lapince · 26 December 2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HL65

I have 5167R and absolutely love it and it is by far my most comfortable watch! Oh and by the way I definitely could justify the RG after setting my eyes on it. Love Patek RG and the brown dial to die for!

Is it a little or much more comfortable than your 5711?

Melvin_arnold · 26 December 2014, 05:34 PM

5167 no doubt about it, would be a perfect choice for your current collection

HL65 · 26 December 2014, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lapince

Is it a little or much more comfortable than your 5711?

More comfortable than any watch I own or ever have owned.

Racerdj · 27 December 2014, 10:26 PM

5167R but as a warning, your current collection might feel neglected.

subtona · 27 December 2014, 10:36 PM

5167

Jack Cassidy · 28 December 2014, 07:07 AM

Go for the 5726 - it has a genuine arm presence. The 5167 has not. It is way too thin and a feminine watch for you wife.

DECR · 28 December 2014, 09:29 AM

IMO You are well covered in the SS department. I would go for a precious metal with my third watch. Could be the 5167R. Have you considered the AP RO 15202 RG? I just saw it at my AD and it is simply amazing.

If you really love SS I will go with the 5726A with leather strap over the 5167A. 5726/1A is too similar to your 5712/1A.

Good luck!

MrJ320 · 28 December 2014, 11:49 AM

Agree with Ken as well, since you already have a 5712 and want to keep it, I would go for a 5167R over the 5726 to mix it up a bit. I think having the 5712 and 5726 is too similar, especially in a 3 watch collection IMHO. I absolutely loved the 5167R and it's such a versatile and comfortable watch.

yjfang · 28 December 2014, 12:44 PM

You have a really sporty watch in the Hulk, and a sports elegant watch in the 5712. If you must have a Patek, why not go for one of their dressier watches? The are so many cool and stylish ones outside of the Nautilus look.

25 December 2014, 05:01 AM	#1
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	5726 or 5167? Hi all, I am considering in some time, probably before summer, changing my Daytona 116515 either for a 5726 on bracelet with grey dial or a 5167 in SS. It would be number 3 with a 5712 and a Hulk. Of course the price difference is very big between the 2, and I am wondering if a 5712 and 5726, both on bracelet, is not too similar. If I didn't have the 5712 I would not hesitate 1 second and go for the 5726, the AC and moon phase make it perfect IMO as a useful complications Patek, whereas the 5712 is an original and "funky" dial watch with basically useless complications but I love it. I tried the 5167 but in RG, stunning but can't justify the huge price difference just for RG. I chose the 5712 over the 5711 because as my first and maybe only Patek I wanted complications, but as a 2nd I can see the 5167 fitting nicely in a trio, as I have decided for some time already that I won't have more than 3-4 pieces. All the posts I read say how the Aquanaut is incredibly comfortable, which I can imagine as my 5712 is by far the most comfortable watch I have owned, I used to like big and heavy watches but since my 5712 I like thin and light watches. I would love to have opinions and feedback of people who have the Aquanaut, SS or RG and a Nautilus on bracelet, 5711 or 5712, my preference for now goes for the 5167 but still have doubts, your opinions will be very useful, thanks in advance

25 December 2014, 05:22 AM	#3
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,991	I have 5167R and absolutely love it and it is by far my most comfortable watch! Oh and by the way I definitely could justify the RG after setting my eyes on it. Love Patek RG and the brown dial to die for! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

25 December 2014, 07:27 AM	#5
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	I'd get the 5726 now, and later on trade the 5712 in towards a Royal Oak variant. One Patek, one Rolex, one AP would make a well-rounded collection. Or, if you definitely want to keep the 5712, then go for the 5167 instead of the 5726. __________________ "In an age of obsolescence and gimmickry, this simple classic virtue of a Rolex is indeed a rarity." (Rolex ad from 1974)

25 December 2014, 07:56 AM	#7
zama "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Craig Location: Sydney Watch: 4 Broken glass Posts: 5,807	I would either keep your daytona or go for the 5167 and keep the other two. __________________ Day Date 118206, Daytona 116509 & 116505, AP 25859ST Gone but not forgotten and genuinely missed..... Root Beer GMT, Sub, TT Daytona, YG DD Bark, Datejust(2 his & hers), AP RO, PP Aquanaut, Lange 1, Heuer Monza, Piaget Altiplano, GP Chrono, Seamaster, Tudor Sub, Tudor Chrono, Tudor Black Bay Bronze

25 December 2014, 08:01 AM	#8
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	Get the 5167, you will have no regrets! __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

25 December 2014, 05:07 AM	#2
autohorology "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Brian Location: Huntington Beach Watch: Daytona Posts: 889	I have the 5167, don't wear it much anymore, but yes it's probably the most comfortable watch I've ever put on. I also have the 5726 but on strap. I always think PP and think strap and not bracelet, though the bracelet looks very nice on the Nautilus. I like the AC complication and I'm a stickler for moonphases. The 5726 also wears very comfortably, speaking for the strap version. Tough choice and considering the price difference, I'd still go with the 5726 over the 5167. You're really just placing your money into another bank account when you buy PP, remember. So pay the extra difference if it doesn't hurt and buy another crazy cool Nautilus!

25 December 2014, 06:09 AM	#4
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Get the 5167 imo

25 December 2014, 07:49 AM	#6
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,106	5167 and with your 5712 and Hulk you will have a great trio.

25 December 2014, 08:28 AM	#9
autohorology "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Brian Location: Huntington Beach Watch: Daytona Posts: 889	It's hard for a lot of people to justify the 5167R because the actual gold weight is nowhere near commensurate with the premium paid, but if you can get it for high 20's and not the retail number it's actually less than a 10k difference. The justification is that the resale value is largely in the name, not in the metal content. Ken's piece always makes me want to rush to my AD and get one, but then something else sings to me.

25 December 2014, 08:35 AM	#10
7sins "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: B. Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 3,607	5726 grey dial no contest! Keeping my fingers crossed a 5726R gets released next year! __________________ Richard Mille RG RM030 \|\| Richard Mille RM72ti \|\| AP 26240 50TH Green Royal Oak Chrono \|\| AP Royal Oak Off Shore Gulf Blue 26238 \|\| AP Royal Oak Blue JUMBO SS 15202ST \|\| AP ROO Diver Green 15720ST \|\| ♕ Rolex Platinum Daytona Diamond 116506 \|\| Cartier Santos

25 December 2014, 09:03 AM	#12
belk7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Posts: 1,439	5167 would seem to round out your collection very nicely, and I wear mine very often. It is a great "do everything" watch. Are you going to miss having a chrono in the mix, though?

25 December 2014, 09:05 AM	#13
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	One thing is clear there is no way I am selling my 5712, I just love this watch, it's my first Patek and I really love it

25 December 2014, 09:17 AM	#15
belk7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Posts: 1,439	5167 sure seems like a great choice, then. Tropical strap makes it so very versatile. Would complement your Nautilus and Sub.

25 December 2014, 01:54 PM	#17
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,328	5726 or 5167? At this point we are all waiting to see what is coming next year from PP...but I would not want two nautilus in a 3 watch collection personally. Therefore 5167 is a great choice. If you like brown then consider the RG of course __________________

25 December 2014, 05:11 PM	#20
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,075	I would enjoy the heck out of your 5712 and Save Save Save and add a precious metal with complication(s) on a strap for your next piece. I would not add another sporty watch considering you have The Hulk and a 5712 which is sporty and elegant.

26 December 2014, 05:34 PM	#23
Melvin_arnold "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Melvin Location: Sydney Watch: TV Posts: 392	5167 no doubt about it, would be a perfect choice for your current collection

27 December 2014, 10:26 PM	#25
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	5167R but as a warning, your current collection might feel neglected. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

27 December 2014, 10:36 PM	#26
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,551	5167

28 December 2014, 07:07 AM	#27
Jack Cassidy "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oz Watch: Rolex & Patek Posts: 291	Go for the 5726 - it has a genuine arm presence. The 5167 has not. It is way too thin and a feminine watch for you wife.

28 December 2014, 09:29 AM	#28
DECR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Diego Location: Mexico Watch: PP,AL&S,AP,Rolex Posts: 825	IMO You are well covered in the SS department. I would go for a precious metal with my third watch. Could be the 5167R. Have you considered the AP RO 15202 RG? I just saw it at my AD and it is simply amazing. If you really love SS I will go with the 5726A with leather strap over the 5167A. 5726/1A is too similar to your 5712/1A. Good luck!

28 December 2014, 11:49 AM	#29
MrJ320 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: James Location: Toronto Watch: IG: @j.project Posts: 2,194	Agree with Ken as well, since you already have a 5712 and want to keep it, I would go for a 5167R over the 5726 to mix it up a bit. I think having the 5712 and 5726 is too similar, especially in a 3 watch collection IMHO. I absolutely loved the 5167R and it's such a versatile and comfortable watch.

28 December 2014, 12:44 PM	#30
yjfang "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: JF Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 Posts: 1,426	You have a really sporty watch in the Hulk, and a sports elegant watch in the 5712. If you must have a Patek, why not go for one of their dressier watches? The are so many cool and stylish ones outside of the Nautilus look.

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