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Old 8 September 2018, 03:11 PM   #1
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126710 BLRO lugs/case vs blnr

Hi everyone, anyone own the 126710 BLRO and blnr or other gmt ceramics? Just wanted comparison pics as the 126710 BLRO has redesigned lugs and sides of the case. thanks
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Old 8 September 2018, 04:07 PM   #2
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Wasn't it concluded that there wasnt any difference from the 'will the oyster bracelet fit the GMT Pepsi' thread? Think the only difference was the diameter of the spring bars?
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Old 8 September 2018, 04:30 PM   #3
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This is from the Rolex website see what i highlighted in red. I own a 126710 blro and can't see a difference in the case and lugs.


THE COSMOPOLITAN
WATCH

The cosmopolitan watch par excellence, the Oyster Perpetual
GMT-Master II allows travellers to read the time in two different time zones simultaneously. Precise, reliable, robust and functional, it is a reference among watches with multiple time zones.

At Baselworld 2018, Rolex is introducing three new versions of the
GMT-Master II with a brand new movement, the new-generation calibre 3285, and a new image. The first new version, in Oystersteel, is equipped with a bidirectional rotatable bezel and a 24-hour graduated two-colour Cerachrom insert in red and blue ceramic. The lugs and sides of its Oyster case have been redesigned, and the watch is fitted on a five-link Jubilee bracelet.
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Old 8 September 2018, 04:35 PM   #4
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I've held the new Pepsi right beside my BLNR and noticed no difference, although I suppose I wasn't looking for it. If it's there, it's not obvious. *shrug*
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Old 8 September 2018, 05:32 PM   #5
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There is a difference, and I did find it noticeable when side by side. Lugs are slightly more tapered, and although not by much, it flows a bit better. Hopefully someone with both watches will do an in-dept comparison soon enough.
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Old 8 September 2018, 06:23 PM   #6
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126710 BLRO lugs/case vs blnr

Rolex website, screenshots of BLNR and BLRO, put side by side.

To ensure they have the same ratio, enlarged each picture on rolex website enough to fill my iPhone screen edge to edge before capturing the screenshot.









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Old 8 September 2018, 06:52 PM   #7
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There might be microns of difference, if that.
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Old 8 September 2018, 06:55 PM   #8
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I've compared and measured them in person and they're all the same. Lug lengths, tapers and end widths are identical on 1267xx and 1167xx cases. The only differences are in the brush finish, polish and springbar holes.

The web images are deceiving since they're composite images. Rolex updated the base image from the BLNR/LN but the cases are shaped the same.

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Old 9 September 2018, 06:21 AM   #9
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126710 BLRO lugs/case vs blnr

Hmmm, yes, the images are deceiving.

I compared my 126710 BLRO with a 116710 Batman at a RSC and found the 126710 BLRO lugs look slightly slimmer, akin but not the same as the the 16710 GMTs and 216570 Explorer II’s. The dimensions might be the same, but they way the sides curve are certainly different when viewed side by side....

I did this as I read that the 126710 lugs appeared slimmer in either a Watchtime or Hodinkee review about the watch and I noticed the same thing.
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Old 9 September 2018, 06:38 AM   #10
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The new Jubilee endlinks do make the lugs look slimmer. Rolex only claimed "redesigned" without specifics and it caused a lot of journalists to read into it.

Install an Oyster bracelet on the SS BLRO and it looks exactly like its WG counterpart. The slim appearance of the lugs returns to normal.

I wish I had a BLRO of my own to take proper photos. Butting a 1267xx lug up to a 1167xx lug is the easiest way to see the similarity.
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Old 9 September 2018, 01:46 PM   #11
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maybe a generous owner of a ss blro and gmtIIc can stack the cases and measure the lugs for us!



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The new Jubilee endlinks do make the lugs look slimmer. Rolex only claimed "redesigned" without specifics and it caused a lot of journalists to read into it.

Install an Oyster bracelet on the SS BLRO and it looks exactly like its WG counterpart. The slim appearance of the lugs returns to normal.

I wish I had a BLRO of my own to take proper photos. Butting a 1267xx lug up to a 1167xx lug is the easiest way to see the similarity.
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Old 9 September 2018, 07:08 PM   #12
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If there was a really palpable difference it would be gospel now and we wouldn't need a dozen Sherlocks on the case.
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Old 9 September 2018, 07:25 PM   #13
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The new Jubilee endlinks do make the lugs look slimmer. Rolex only claimed "redesigned" without specifics and it caused a lot of journalists to read into it.

Install an Oyster bracelet on the SS BLRO and it looks exactly like its WG counterpart. The slim appearance of the lugs returns to normal.

I wish I had a BLRO of my own to take proper photos. Butting a 1267xx lug up to a 1167xx lug is the easiest way to see the similarity.
{Redesigned = MARKETING} Why have a new case when you already have one in production with the 116710BLNR.In the real world the 216710 BLRO is just the old model with different colour insert, modified movement,a few tiny slight cosmetic changes and a jubilee bracelet.
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Old 9 September 2018, 08:18 PM   #14
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There might be microns of difference, if that.

I predict same thing for new Sub when it’s inevitably launched either next year or as many as 5 years from now.


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Digital renderings, especially with different lighting effects applied to the different models, are not reliable to draw any conclusions. I agree with AK, though. If there was any appreciable changes to the lugs on the new models, we wouldn't still be struggling so hard to see them almost six months after their debut.
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I predict same thing for new Sub when it’s inevitably launched either next year or as many as 5 years from now.
I agree. My hunch is the Supercase is going to be around for the foreseeable future.
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I've compared and measured them in person and they're all the same. Lug lengths, tapers and end widths are identical on 1267xx and 1167xx cases. The only differences are in the brush finish, polish and springbar holes.

The web images are deceiving since they're composite images. Rolex updated the base image from the BLNR/LN but the cases are shaped the same.

BLRO / CHNR / BLNR:
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maybe a generous owner of a ss blro and gmtIIc can stack the cases and measure the lugs for us!
Read the above. Same watch still.

Rolex embellishes with marketing and words which are mostly ambiguous and as stated by others, wishful journalist then made incorrect assumptions that were then repeated and perpetuated in social media. Redesigned can mean everything and ultimately nothing. In this case, it means nothing.
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I agree. My hunch is the Supercase is going to be around for the foreseeable future.


With the SD43 lugs smaller, my guess (and hopes) are that the new models will start to slim down into better proportions.


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I don't think you can go by the pics on Rolex's website. For the longest time, the SS Daytona was depicted on the website with the longer lugs/case of a Platinum Daytona. And those 2 cases are no where near the same.
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There might be microns of difference, if that.
Too little a difference for my eyes
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Hi everyone, anyone own the 126710 BLRO and blnr or other gmt ceramics? Just wanted comparison pics as the 126710 BLRO has redesigned lugs and sides of the case. thanks


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With the SD43 lugs smaller, my guess (and hopes) are that the new models will start to slim down into better proportions.
That overlooks the GMT, which, as we can see in fdm79's pics, hasn't changed any in the new model. It's also more recent than the SD43, which throws water on the idea that the SD portends changes to the smaller cases. The GMT and the Sub are the two models that define the Supercase in the 40mm sports models. Since the GMT didn't slim down in its most recent iteration, it's hard to imagine the Sub will in its next one.
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Excellent. Thank you for posting this. I'm bookmarking this post, because I'm sure this issue will come up again in other threads.
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Excellent. Thank you for posting this. I'm bookmarking this post, because I'm sure this issue will come up again in other threads.
If only someone had said that earlier in this thread.

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I've compared and measured them in person and they're all the same. Lug lengths, tapers and end widths are identical on 1267xx and 1167xx cases. The only differences are in the brush finish, polish and springbar holes.
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If only someone had said that earlier in this thread.
A picture is worth a thousand words. Not to discount your observations, which are valuable, but imagine when this question comes up again. Someone could either link to your written account, or to fdm79's pictures. Which one do you think will put the matter to rest more readily? Actually, the two combined will be even better.
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A picture is worth a thousand words. Not to discount your observations, which are valuable, but imagine when this question comes up again. Someone could either link to your written account, or to fdm79's pictures. Which one do you think will put the matter to rest more readily? Actually, the two combined will be even better.
No worries. My post directly above was sarcasm anyway. I totally understand. That's why I wished I had a BLRO of my own to post updated photos.
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That overlooks the GMT, which, as we can see in fdm79's pics, hasn't changed any in the new model. It's also more recent than the SD43, which throws water on the idea that the SD portends changes to the smaller cases. The GMT and the Sub are the two models that define the Supercase in the 40mm sports models. Since the GMT didn't slim down in its most recent iteration, it's hard to imagine the Sub will in its next one.


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