My 114270 bracelet annoying problem

[SunShine SQT]

I newly registered to ask for help from you guys about my bracelet. I purchased my Explorer 114270 last year. I love it for its pure and simple design and well balanced dial. The bracelet is light and I enjoy the feeling of wearing it. But there is one thing bothers me a lot which is the position of the clasp.
I have a 6 1/2 inch wrist and I have 6 pcs links(including endlink) on 6 o'clock side (I dont have a choice since that is the minimum you can have by default). Now the problem is, the 6 o'clock side is too long for me, which means if I put the clasp in the right position, the watch will be pushed to the 12 o'clock position side. If I put the watch is upright position on my wrist, then after hours of wearing, the clasp moves and the watch moves clockwise.
My question is how to fix the very link which connects the clasp from 6 o'clock side? I CAN NOT remove the link simply because it connected to the clasp by default. But I can never put my watch right
Please help me.......(I am still figuring out how to insert pics.........)

[Tools]

For small wrists, the fix has always been the removal of one of the permanent links.

[iliketime]

remove a permanent link is the way. I have 4 links on the 6 oclock side, 3 permanent and one adjustable

[NYCREBROKER]

On the 6 o’clock side, I have three permanent and one 1/2 link instead of the one permanent link. I sourced the half link online. Less then $100. Result is, the clasp is centered on the underside of my wrist and the watch stays anchored with the watch head centered on the top of my wrist. By the way, I have a 6 1/2 inch wrist.

[Andad]

I had an issue with my 14060M clasp position and ran out of removable links in the 6 side.

I rotated the clasp and this fixed the issue but I couldn’t handle the ‘look’ and the reverse fastening.

[Kliminator]

Originally Posted by directioneng

I had an issue with my 14060M clasp position and ran out of removable links in the 6 side.

I rotated the clasp and this fixed the issue but I couldn’t handle the ‘look’ and the reverse fastening.

So what did you end up doing? Removing a permanent link?

[SunShine SQT]

Originally Posted by Tools

For small wrists, the fix has always been the removal of one of the permanent links.

Thanks. Removel of permanent links on pre-modern oyster bracelet is a good idea. however there is a challege that, with old oyster bracelet, the gradient tapering down from 20mm to 16mm takes 4 links(modern oyster takes 3 links). So after removing the permanent No.4 permanent link, there is a gap between the No. 3 permanent link and the removable link connected to it. It's extremely ugly.
But still it's a solution.

[SunShine SQT]

Originally Posted by NYCREBROKER

On the 6 o’clock side, I have three permanent and one 1/2 link instead of the one permanent link. I sourced the half link online. Less then $100. Result is, the clasp is centered on the underside of my wrist and the watch stays anchored with the watch head centered on the top of my wrist. By the way, I have a 6 1/2 inch wrist.

Did you remove one permanent link? As far as I know, my permanent links are 4 pieces (with gradient tapering) on my 114270. if removed one, the tapering gets broken and leaves a jump gap in-between.

Thanks

[iTreelex]

biggest reason i sold my 114270 and the reason I defer from 5-digit references :(

[SunShine SQT]

Originally Posted by iTreelex

biggest reason i sold my 114270 and the reason I defer from 5-digit references :(

True. I understand that feeling.

[SunShine SQT]

Originally Posted by iliketime

remove a permanent link is the way. I have 4 links on the 6 oclock side, 3 permanent and one adjustable

If I remove one permanent link, there wil be an unsmooth curvature gap between tapering link and ajustable link. Look ugly

[SunShine SQT]

Originally Posted by iTreelex

biggest reason i sold my 114270 and the reason I defer from 5-digit references :(

yep, same reason I am bothered.

[SunShine SQT]

Originally Posted by NYCREBROKER

On the 6 o’clock side, I have three permanent and one 1/2 link instead of the one permanent link. I sourced the half link online. Less then $100. Result is, the clasp is centered on the underside of my wrist and the watch stays anchored with the watch head centered on the top of my wrist. By the way, I have a 6 1/2 inch wrist.

Could you share with me where can I get the 1/2 link? BTW, my watch is 114270, could you tell me how to replace the 1/2 link?

[NYCREBROKER]

Originally Posted by SunShine SQT

Could you share with me where can I get the 1/2 link? BTW, my watch is 114270, could you tell me how to replace the 1/2 link?

I got it on eBay from the guy in London. It was easy. Unscrewed the full link and replaced it with the half link.

[NYCREBROKER]

Originally Posted by SunShine SQT

Did you remove one permanent link? As far as I know, my permanent links are 4 pieces (with gradient tapering) on my 114270. if removed one, the tapering gets broken and leaves a jump gap in-between.

Thanks

Here’s a photo of the 6 o’clock side of my watch showing the new half link.

[GarbanzoNegro]

Originally Posted by NYCREBROKER

Here’s a photo of the 6 o’clock side of my watch showing the new half link.

This is the 212470, 39 mm, not the one the OP was asking about (114270, 36 mm), which has 4 permanent links on both sides.

[BamaHammer]

Trade it for a 34mm Datejust

[NYCREBROKER]

Originally Posted by GarbanzoNegro

This is the 212470, 39 mm, not the one the OP was asking about (114270, 36 mm), which has 4 permanent links on both sides.

Oops. My bad.

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by NYCREBROKER

Here’s a photo of the 6 o’clock side of my watch showing the new half link.

Wrong watch


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[Andad]

Originally Posted by Kliminator

So what did you end up doing? Removing a permanent link?

Removed the bracelet and put it on a NATO.

[Cloitus]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Removed the bracelet and put it on a NATO.

How about reversing the bracelet?
I have 6 inch wrists myself. I have tried link removal and reversing bracelet (on two different explorers)

Both come out as a perfect fit.

I understand what you mean with link removal. There is a visible step in the bracelet continuity. If this bothers you reverse bracelet and it should fit you well.

Hope this helps.

Steve.

[jakjuventus]

Originally Posted by Cloitus

How about reversing the bracelet?
I have 6 inch wrists myself. I have tried link removal and reversing bracelet (on two different explorers)

Both come out as a perfect fit.

I understand what you mean with link removal. There is a visible step in the bracelet continuity. If this bothers you reverse bracelet and it should fit you well.

Hope this helps.

Steve.

Can you share the picture of your bracelet?

I also have a 6 inch wrists and just purchase 114270 weeks ago.

The shop I bought it from adjust it to have 5 links on both side of bracelets.

It fit perfectly for me but the clasp is not in the middle position.

Will share the picture here later time.

[gordonite]

Wow, Seeing this post and read the replies, I had same problem with the Explorer on my small wrist. But after awhile it starts to grown on me and seemed to except my fate. haha

[glamorama]

I remember having this problem and it annoyed me to no end. Sold the Exp and got an Exp II with the same problem but now I’m used to it and can live with it.

If you remove one permanent link it will look funny. No easy choice here.

[kwingy]

As much as I love the 5 digits - for this reason alone on bracelet comfort - I tend to stay away from them. But I would say on the 16570 I did have - I got RSC St James to remove one perm link and it didn't look funny at all - it wasn't noticeable. Unfortunately I no longer have the watch to show you a pic.

Good luck.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Cloitus

How about reversing the bracelet?
I have 6 inch wrists myself. I have tried link removal and reversing bracelet (on two different explorers)

Both come out as a perfect fit.

I understand what you mean with link removal. There is a visible step in the bracelet continuity. If this bothers you reverse bracelet and it should fit you well.

Hope this helps.

Steve.

We are trying to shorten the 6 o’clock side?

[jakjuventus]

Here's the pics of my 114270 bracelet with my 6 inch wrist.

5 links on both side of bracelets. (I have 2 removable links left)

It's quite weird that when I try the 14060m Submariner, the shop try to adjust the bracelet to the shortest possible and it really can't fir properly on my wrist. I can almost put like 2-3 fingers between

[csaltphoto]

A lot of people ask about this. Rolliworks seems to have a more elegant solution than just removing a permanent link.

https://www.rolliworks.com/post/oyst...link-explained

[GarbanzoNegro]

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

A lot of people ask about this. Rolliworks seems to have a more elegant solution than just removing a permanent link.



https://www.rolliworks.com/post/oyst...link-explained

That’s a great way of doing it!

[ROLLiWORKS]

We’ve actually started removing the 5th link and converting the 4th link to be a clasp connect. We like this approach much better. Its easy for us to reverse at anytime.




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