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Old 28 September 2020, 12:53 PM   #1
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Tudor BB58 bracelet abrasions

Does anyone have this experience with their BB58 where the bracelet links rub against each other and cause abrasions/discoloration? I'm asking because I had the 58 in black and this happened including at the upper links near the lugs. I'm considering giving the 58 blue a try but wondering if this will inevitably happen again?
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Old 28 September 2020, 01:05 PM   #2
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Does anyone have this experience with their BB58 where the bracelet links rub against each other and cause abrasions/discoloration? I'm asking because I had the 58 in black and this happened including at the upper links near the lugs. I'm considering giving the 58 blue a try but wondering if this will inevitably happen again?
It's interesting that you ask this question...

I have never owned a BB58 (or any Tudor for that matter), but almost every picture and video I have seen of them have an unusually high number of scratches on their bracelets. I, too, am considering the BB58 blue, but I would not be interested if the brushed bracelet is a scratch magnet ... that's the reason many dislike PCLs and opt for a brushed bracelet (no more scratches).
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Old 28 September 2020, 01:40 PM   #3
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Same on mine. I do not mind it though. Scratches are inevitable on anything that rests on one of, if not the most mobile part of the body. Watch looks great with or without the wear.

The blue is a really amazing watch.
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Old 28 September 2020, 02:07 PM   #4
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The articulation of the Black Bay oyster bracelet with the end link is different from the Rolex professional oyster bracelet. Note that the Black Bay oyster endlink’s midlink is recessed compared to the Rolex endlink midlink that juts out. This allows the bracelet to articulate under the endlink resulting in the scratches you see
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Old 28 September 2020, 02:20 PM   #5
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As mentioned above, the Rolex oyster bracelet mid link section on the end links are fixed while the BB58’s move with the bracelet. Those scratches most commonly occur from laying the watch on a flat surface against the clasp or allowing the bracelet to invert backwards when handling. Best way to avoid is to store the watch on a pillow when not in use, etc.
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Old 28 September 2020, 02:29 PM   #6
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As mentioned above, the Rolex oyster bracelet mid link section on the end links are fixed while the BB58’s move with the bracelet. Those scratches most commonly occur from laying the watch on a flat surface against the clasp or allowing the bracelet to invert backwards when handling. Best way to avoid is to store the watch on a pillow when not in use, etc.
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Old 28 September 2020, 03:30 PM   #7
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Please explain to me as if I were a five year old how that happens? I only see those parts rubbing against eachother if you wear the watch upside down (caseback up)?
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Old 28 September 2020, 05:34 PM   #8
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Not a BB58 owner.
my less than a year old BB41 do get scratches/marks like what OP have mentioned. Especially when it is not worn and left in the pocket or table.

the other scratches are accumulated from cycling to work and daily wear. so far so good.
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Old 28 September 2020, 05:52 PM   #9
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As mentioned above, the Rolex oyster bracelet mid link section on the end links are fixed while the BB58’s move with the bracelet. Those scratches most commonly occur from laying the watch on a flat surface against the clasp or allowing the bracelet to invert backwards when handling. Best way to avoid is to store the watch on a pillow when not in use, etc.
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Old 28 September 2020, 06:30 PM   #10
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Please explain to me as if I were a five year old how that happens? I only see those parts rubbing against eachother if you wear the watch upside down (caseback up)?

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Old 28 September 2020, 06:47 PM   #11
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Okay yeah makes sense. Just checked on my own, it would also rub against if not placed carefully down. Guess I'll be more careful in the future !
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Old 28 September 2020, 07:53 PM   #12
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I have this happen on my 114060, where links fold and mark each other when taken on and off or when the watch is laying flat.
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Old 28 September 2020, 09:03 PM   #13
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Never thought of this before but I could see how this might happen depending on how your store your watch. I checked my BBGMT bracelet and no issues. However I store it on a winder or stand religiously. I almost never have it sitting down flat where this would be most likely to occur. Glad you pointed this out.
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Old 28 September 2020, 09:42 PM   #14
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Interesting ... no marks on my bb58 blue, but I store mine on a pillow when it’s in the safe and lay it on it’s side when on
My nightstand. One of the things I like about the bb58 bracelet is exactly what causes this apparent issue - the articulation is the end link - makes it conform to the wrist much better IMO- it’s why I like old style non-SEL bracelets on 5 digit Rolex watches.


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Old 28 September 2020, 10:12 PM   #15
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Tudor BB58 bracelet abrasions

When links fold against each other it would inevitably happen..

I always lay the watch like this when at rest


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Old 28 September 2020, 10:45 PM   #16
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I'm not too fussy about collecting the inevitable marks of wear and tear, although I try to be thoughtful. This is in a different league. A watch that scratches itself? That's um, interesting. And worth knowing.
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Yep! That’s great pic demonstrating exactly what I was referring to.
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Old 28 September 2020, 11:10 PM   #18
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I'm not too fussy about collecting the inevitable marks of wear and tear, although I try to be thoughtful. This is in a different league. A watch that scratches itself? That's um, interesting. And worth knowing.
The Sea Dweller (and I assume Sub as well) have an issue where the safety clasp, when open, comes right down on the top of the bracelet and causes a wear mark/scratch over time. Metal-on-metal never a good thing. Just need to be careful and these issues can be avoided.
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When links fold against each other it would inevitably happen..

I always lay the watch like this when at rest


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Old 28 September 2020, 11:14 PM   #20
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the other scratches are accumulated from cycling to work and daily wear. so far so good.
How do you get scratches from cycling? You fall often?
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Old 28 September 2020, 11:16 PM   #21
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Yep. On all of my watches. It goes kind of grey/ black


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I don’t buy anything too precious to scratch. I do keep my watches in watch boxes though, primarily for storage management, the only place they’ve ever seen a pillow. I’ve never bought a watch with the intent to sell it and have only traded in one, a DJII I never warmed to. It was scratched and the AD didn’t bat an eye.
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Old 29 September 2020, 12:52 AM   #23
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The great thing about steel is it’s easy to brush out. I keep all of mine in a watch box when not in use and it greatly helps. Most damage comes when the watch is on a table etc.
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Old 29 September 2020, 09:51 AM   #25
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I'm not too fussy about collecting the inevitable marks of wear and tear, although I try to be thoughtful. This is in a different league. A watch that scratches itself? That's um, interesting. And worth knowing.
Thanks guys for the insights. This point is very well said and I think exactly what bothers me about it. I'm okay with inevitable marks on my pieces, especially bracelets, and even more especially near the clasp. But the 58 does it to itself, including on the end link (the worst part on the bracelet for marks IMO). So to me it's kind of an annoying design defect and makes me question my desire for it.
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Old 29 September 2020, 10:15 AM   #26
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Thanks guys for the insights. This point is very well said and I think exactly what bothers me about it. I'm okay with inevitable marks on my pieces, especially bracelets, and even more especially near the clasp. But the 58 does it to itself, including on the end link (the worst part on the bracelet for marks IMO). So to me it's kind of an annoying design defect and makes me question my desire for it.


Just FYI, this happens to the regular Rolex oyster bracelets too, but it’s isolated to the center portion on the end links. You can easily spot it on used watches with polished center links. You’ll see a faint horizontal line on the end link. Here’s my daily DJ41.

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No but I have a big dent between the 40 & 45 where it fell 5 ft onto stone tile.


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